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Title: need advice on what to do next
Post by: crystal.clear on August 21, 2013, 05:10:46 pm
Hi ive been working for a bloke for newrly 12 years now and we get on great. Im more than happy to stsy for a long time BUT he has his brother working for him as well and I cant deal with him anymore. Today he kept asking me something other and other again so all I said was " ok ill do it in a min " he then went off on one shouting how dare you speak to me like that, I will smash your face in and put it through the floor. He got right up to my face screaming and shouting. Now im no wimp but he's twice the size of me. I dont know what to do as 5his happens aboit once a month and the boss does nothing. Any advice would be great
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Post by: steve123 on August 21, 2013, 05:18:57 pm
Dump and move on
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Post by: robertphil on August 21, 2013, 05:21:52 pm
grease the upper rungs on the brothers ladder
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Post by: elite mike on August 21, 2013, 05:23:27 pm
move on , but nut the idiot 1st  ;)
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Post by: Michael Peterson on August 21, 2013, 05:23:51 pm
just stop working for him
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Post by: Michael Peterson on August 21, 2013, 05:24:28 pm
i wont even bother causing any trouble, trouble only starts anxiety, just work on your own and dont compete with him
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Post by: edward1 on August 21, 2013, 05:25:09 pm
it doesn't sound like he values you much m8.
which is a shame.
your probably best to look for a change
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Post by: Matt. on August 21, 2013, 05:27:04 pm
He's a dick head.... I understand we're ya coming from.....
On 1 hand they r putting work ur way an ya don't want to lose it
An on the other hand ur not a muppet who's guna be spoke to like that.
If ya can get by with out the money then tell him what to do with himself an wrap a bar round his kneck an ya ain't lost nothing.
If ya need the money then go speak to him an tell him how it is an that ya ain't answering to his brother who's prob just a little juice head an would poop his undies if ya laid one on his chin.

I have done work for a guy bout 15 years now, his bro inlaw started working for him a few years ago an he tried his luck with me, an he was a big lad. I just told him straight that I didn't work for him an if he carried on I would park me van in his front room at home an see if be can hold the upstairs up. He soon changed his attitude. And now he's been sacked haha
Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: crystal.clear on August 21, 2013, 05:35:09 pm
In the past 5 years he's grabbed me by the throat, pushed me up against garages and other stuff.  The thing is his brother knows what he is like he wont even work with him. I cant just stop working I need the money got a house and kid to pay for. If I hit him I know I would be sacked on the spot so cant do that. I just which he would hit me then my boss would have to get rid of him.
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Post by: Stephen.C on August 21, 2013, 05:59:18 pm
Just start on your own, each door you knock on think of your kid. Its a great motivator.
Move on mate.
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Post by: Slash on August 21, 2013, 05:59:45 pm
Start up on your own and take half his customers,that will shut him up! ;D
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Post by: Ste b on August 21, 2013, 06:03:55 pm
Cant you build up your own round, then when youv got enough work leave, let him be a nob with someone else
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Post by: Matt. on August 21, 2013, 06:25:18 pm
Is the work domestic or commercial, an were r u based.???

There is work out there for everyone like the guys say little by little just start picking work up 5 houses ere an there just do it for yourself and your children will drive you to make a success, start off with a £50 a day round do a good job an it will soon be £200 a day.

Chin up mate ya don't need be treated like that. I started off with a few commercial jobs an its growing bigger all the time.
Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: PoleKing on August 21, 2013, 06:33:46 pm
In the past 5 years he's grabbed me by the throat, pushed me up against garages and other stuff.  The thing is his brother knows what he is like he wont even work with him. I cant just stop working I need the money got a house and kid to pay for. If I hit him I know I would be sacked on the spot so cant do that. I just which he would hit me then my boss would have to get rid of him.

Could it be that your gaffer is scared of him too?
Not got any  positive suggestions though-sorry.
I'd suggest not giving him a hiding-anyone can throw a punch or two but its only real fighters that can take them and get back up. (Not that you're not, just that most people give their best couple of shots first and if he's got up from them you're fu@ked)
Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: PoleKing on August 21, 2013, 06:37:05 pm
In the past 5 years he's grabbed me by the throat, pushed me up against garages and other stuff.  The thing is his brother knows what he is like he wont even work with him. I cant just stop working I need the money got a house and kid to pay for. If I hit him I know I would be sacked on the spot so cant do that. I just which he would hit me then my boss would have to get rid of him.

Could it be that your gaffer is scared of him too?
Not got any  positive suggestions though-sorry.
I'd suggest not giving him a hiding-anyone can throw a punch or two but its only real fighters that can take them and get back up. (Not that you're not, just that most people give their best couple of shots first and if he's got up from them you're fu@ked)

Or... Goad him. Take the slap and he'll be sacked and you can crack on.
2 things though-you need to be sure you can take it because you (obviously) don't know when he will stop.
And you need to make sure someone else sees (and will vouch for) him landing the first blow.
Don't envy you though bud.
Keep us posted on your choices/progress?
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Post by: Frankybadboy on August 21, 2013, 06:42:34 pm
report it to the boss and tell him to do something about it,then you will take it further

cause if he doesn't then you go to the police,and if he does then lay a finger on you your have both of then in front of the police.


keep all records and when it happened who you spoke to and when.

Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: crystal.clear on August 21, 2013, 07:46:10 pm
Thanks for replies. I have just wrote a letter to the boss explaining what happened and that im thinking of leaving. Thanks again
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on August 21, 2013, 08:00:23 pm
>Crystal Clear

Do you use their van; have you got a vehicle of your own? If so then build your own round and work for yourself; honestly the boss is useless if his brother hits you there's no point going to him he already has shown he does nothing anyway.

Is there anyone near you you could start subbing for while you build a round. or get a part time job and build up your own round.
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Post by: Archer on August 21, 2013, 08:05:56 pm

Crystal clear,

well done for writing the letter, but in the meantime I would be looking for another job, simple as that.

By the sounds of it, it wouldn't matter if he hit you, he wont get sacked.

Value yourself more, you do a good job, been a good employee

maybe its time to look for work elsewhere maybe even part time, and with the spare hours try and get your own little bit of work.

Would be hard at first, but better than looking back in a few years wishing you had tried it, because theres nothing to say something like this wont happen again working with someone else.
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Post by: Diamond standard ltd on August 21, 2013, 08:39:43 pm
Where are you from mate we might be looking for someone else?
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Post by: see clear lee on August 21, 2013, 10:07:08 pm
i was talking to a old customer whos about 80  well healthy for his age very pleasant and quiet , he just told me a similar story when he was young, at the time he was an apprentice for a firm and the bosses son worked there also, anyway after a few years of abuse from this kid he decided enough was enough as it was becoming a regular hassle. so in quiet he started to train ,gym,running ,cardio and boxing all with this guy in mind and eventually the day came and to the bullys surprise my custy looked him in the eyes and said with confidence this is a mans world lets sort it like men and took him out side and .....well you can guess the rest he wasnt picked on any more ;D
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Post by: Stephen Fox on August 21, 2013, 10:14:23 pm
Thanks for replies. I have just wrote a letter to the boss explaining what happened and that im thinking of leaving. Thanks again

You should never have to deal with this in your working life. Are you employed? If so then your employer could be in hot water if nothing gets sorted, along with a crippling pay out.
Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: Archer on August 21, 2013, 10:17:04 pm

Stephen Fox,

Totally agree with your comments.
Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: DG Cleaning on August 21, 2013, 10:26:08 pm
I'm confused, do you work full time for this company?
Or are you a stubby?
Looking at your back posts it would seem you're self employed.
Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: Roy Harding on August 22, 2013, 08:54:19 am
report it to the boss and tell him to do something about it,then you will take it further

cause if he doesn't then you go to the police,and if he does then lay a finger on you your have both of then in front of the police.


keep all records and when it happened who you spoke to and when.



Spot on

Roy
Title: Re: need advice on what to do next
Post by: Neil Gornall on August 22, 2013, 07:21:00 pm
As an employee you have the right to work in an environment which is safe, as an employer your boss must ensure that everything is done properly.

If I were you I would seek professional advise immediately.
Citizens advise is a good place to start, they will tell you how to proceed in the correct way.

You have rights which are clearly being abused.
If your boss does nothing I would take him to the court.

In the meantime take the advise above and look to start up on your own, you wont regret it.
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Post by: GB Window Cleaning on August 22, 2013, 08:08:43 pm
When it comes to fighting i know what i'm talking about! I'm not being big headed just honest!

Firstly DO NOT hit this guy!!! believe it or not there is a big risk of seriously injuring him if you catch him right (in the jaw or temple etc. Or if you hit him anywhere hard enough) or even killing him... Yes thats right, you can end up accidently killing a person if you knock them to the ground and they hit there head on concrete! It happens more than you may realise.

secondly, most (if not all) bullies are scared and lack real confidence, thats why they pick on only people who they think they can physicaly dominate. what you need to do my friend is learn gracie jiu jitsu. Its the only proven system of self defence that enables a weaker smaller person to defend themselves again bigger and stronger people!

Don't take my word for it though, Look at some youtube videos of it. gracie jiu jitsu is what started off the ufc (cage fighting as its commonly known) for the last 100 years gjj practicioners have been proving there style over others via an open invattion to all comers regardless of size, strength and athletic ability and fighting knowlegde!

If you wanna leanr it, which by the way anyone can. Go here to start yourself off...  www.gracieuniversity.com

Any questions just ask me!

All the best

And as the late grand master once said " A few honest unafraid words will put a bully in his place"

George