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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: m.b.s. on August 05, 2013, 04:41:18 pm
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hi just a quick look through ebay
has any one used one of these in a van mound cheap what do you think
i know of others using the £30 ones but what about these
ebay item number 200939597202
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whats you thoughts work or not?
cheers
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Dont see why not mate
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200939597202?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D200939597202%26_rdc%3D1
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200939597202?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D200939597202%26_rdc%3D1
Thanks whats your thoughts work as van mount or not?
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
get what your saying, admit I am tempted too
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
get what your saying, admit I am tempted too
how your van set up ?
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
What would worry me is that we work in a damp environment. That motor is rather open. I also rather suspect that the current draw of 3 amps is not accurate. I suspect that its the pump running at full flow without restriction of lengths of hose and jets.
I also disagree with the reasoning that if it lasts 2 years then you are quids in. You have only taken the price of the pump into consideration. When your system developes in intermittant fault, the first suspect is battery, then connections, then controller and finally pump. Even the Hozelok fittings to the hose reel are suspect. You can mess around for hours trying to identify a fault. Downtime is money lost and a cost to your business.
My one Shurflo pump on my van is 7 years old and the other is 5 years old, the Shurflo on my son's van is 6 years old. The Shurflo on my son in laws van is 2 years old. I have a Varistream controller and spare Shurflo pump in my office as a back incase of failure - they are 2 years old and not used yet.
Would I buy that pump? No, for me that is false economy.
The Vyair pumps aren't that much cheaper than the Shurflo, and a number have started to report that they aren't as robust as the Shurflo and Flojets are. Again, I would say purchasing them is false economy.
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hi
yes i agree in one respect in what you are saying i have a flowjet that has served me for the past 5 years it was just a quick cheap thought as a back up pump
but just wondered if they would withstand the job so at the moment with the replys its 50/50
cheers
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so hoo is going to be the gineau pig then lol ;D
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for £20 i will try one but i need to split the pipe from tank to my original pump so i can run the two pumps together
any ideas how i can do it ? i run tank through pipe direct to pump and pump to hose real as i have static at home and transfer pure to tank at night so no need for di vesicle ro in van etc.
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
What would worry me is that we work in a damp environment. That motor is rather open. I also rather suspect that the current draw of 3 amps is not accurate. I suspect that its the pump running at full flow without restriction of lengths of hose and jets.
I also disagree with the reasoning that if it lasts 2 years then you are quids in. You have only taken the price of the pump into consideration. When your system developes in intermittant fault, the first suspect is battery, then connections, then controller and finally pump. Even the Hozelok fittings to the hose reel are suspect. You can mess around for hours trying to identify a fault. Downtime is money lost and a cost to your business.
My one Shurflo pump on my van is 7 years old and the other is 5 years old, the Shurflo on my son's van is 6 years old. The Shurflo on my son in laws van is 2 years old. I have a Varistream controller and spare Shurflo pump in my office as a back incase of failure - they are 2 years old and not used yet.
Would I buy that pump? No, for me that is false economy.
The Vyair pumps aren't that much cheaper than the Shurflo, and a number have started to report that they aren't as robust as the Shurflo and Flojets are. Again, I would say purchasing them is false economy.
thank you spruce you make a lot of sense as usual :D
Gonna get me a shurflo from Daqua ( my last one lasted over 5 years also, its s replacement the bargain priced vyair looked the part but after 2 years as you've correctly said not as robust)
Simon
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so hoo is going to be the gineau pig then lol ;D
not me thanks, I'm out ;D
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
What would worry me is that we work in a damp environment. That motor is rather open. I also rather suspect that the current draw of 3 amps is not accurate. I suspect that its the pump running at full flow without restriction of lengths of hose and jets.
I also disagree with the reasoning that if it lasts 2 years then you are quids in. You have only taken the price of the pump into consideration. When your system developes in intermittant fault, the first suspect is battery, then connections, then controller and finally pump. Even the Hozelok fittings to the hose reel are suspect. You can mess around for hours trying to identify a fault. Downtime is money lost and a cost to your business.
My one Shurflo pump on my van is 7 years old and the other is 5 years old, the Shurflo on my son's van is 6 years old. The Shurflo on my son in laws van is 2 years old. I have a Varistream controller and spare Shurflo pump in my office as a back incase of failure - they are 2 years old and not used yet.
Would I buy that pump? No, for me that is false economy.
The Vyair pumps aren't that much cheaper than the Shurflo, and a number have started to report that they aren't as robust as the Shurflo and Flojets are. Again, I would say purchasing them is false economy.
thank you spruce you make a lot of sense as usual :D
Gonna get me a shurflo from Daqua ( my last one lasted over 5 years also, its s replacement the bargain priced vyair looked the part but after 2 years as you've correctly said not as robust)
Simon
Personally, that's a wise decision. The last 2 pump kits I have have come from Daqua. I would also add a bayonet filter and hose fittings to the order as well.
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
get what your saying, admit I am tempted too
how your van set up ?
very simples, tank, 1 meter 1/2" hose hose to pump and controller, then to 1 meter 1/2" hose to reel.
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
get what your saying, admit I am tempted too
how your van set up ?
very simples, tank, 1 meter 1/2" hose hose to pump and controller, then to 1 meter 1/2" hose to reel.
same as mine then so how do i split so i ca try pump?
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for £20 i will try one but i need to split the pipe from tank to my original pump so i can run the two pumps together
any ideas how i can do it ? i run tank through pipe direct to pump and pump to hose real as i have static at home and transfer pure to tank at night so no need for di vesicle ro in van etc.
just get a barbed 1/2" (or whichever size you use) 2 way splitter and some jubilee clips, better than the hoselock splitters which are prone to leaking and causing airlock issues.
Simon
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barbed y you mean and put it on tank to pump side?
how far down from the original pump would you put it or dont you think it would matter?
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
i know how long that is the question but if they last 2 years like the v air for 20 delivered thats £10 a year so could afford a spare one and still have change from what you would on a named product just a thought as like i said i know others use the £30 ones from ebay but found these cheaper
get what your saying, admit I am tempted too
how your van set up ?
very simples, tank, 1 meter 1/2" hose hose to pump and controller, then to 1 meter 1/2" hose to reel.
same as mine then so how do i split so i ca try pump?
like this
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/13mm-t-connector.html
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barbed y you mean and put it on tank to pump side?
how far down from the original pump would you put it or dont you think it would matter?
yes a barbed y
Where does the hose exit your tank from ? I have a ball lever outlet in bottom corner of the tank (as oppose to hose dropped in through the filler cap which can cause problems with air locks)
that being the case I would put it just after the tank outlet, giving you as much scope as possible to position the second pump where you like (I find they are best as low down as the tank outlet as possible via the shortest length of hose you can)
Simon
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hi mine is an old tank about 6 years old which has a screw in barb at the bottom left hand back corner connected direct to 13mm hose no tap so if ever i have a leak lol but haven't in 6 years.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390611073755?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Just ordered one of these to keep in the van as a spare,for £12 if it works could be a great item to have in case pump packs up during a day working.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390611073755?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Just ordered one of these to keep in the van as a spare,for £12 if it works could be a great item to have in case pump packs up during a day working.
whats the psi ?
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Max 115 psi,or so it claims!
If it works I will post on here,could be a little gem
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Max 115 psi,or so it claims!
If it works I will post on here,could be a little gem
keep us informed
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Max 115 psi,or so it claims!
If it works I will post on here,could be a little gem
what we need to find now is some cheap inline filters?? so no resin gets through??
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well what a load of old crap not powerful enough at all and wont even cut ourt when pressure builds up when i switch pole tap off :o
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Still waiting on the one i brought to turn up,will see if it us any good.
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The pump is like back pack pump. Very noisy.take a look at the more expensive one on this page same a Flowjet.
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Still waiting on the one i brought to turn up,will see if it us any good.
Did your pump turn up ?
If so what's the verdict?
Cheers
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I used the pro pumps for the latest van they last no more than 3 months, been sent several replacements and they all seize up changed over to shurflo pumps now
These really cheap pumps are not worth buying even as an emergency backup
Darran
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Turned up fine, tried it and it works fine. Well worth the money and ideal to keep in my van as a spare. The inlet/outlet on the pump is not very long, that is the only downside I found on the pump. Just big enough for a jubilee clip. Apart from that it's a little gem ;)
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Be interested to see if that's your opinion after using a few times ;)
Darran
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That pump is the same as ones used in most back packs and as a spare pump for emergencies it'll work fine. I've had one in my van for a few years and have used it on the odd occasion and once for 3 days.
It's not much cop with 100m hose (I use 8mm microbore) and pole extended but with 50m it did the job but with a slightly lower flow rate.
The problem with the motor being exposed. It's made like that to keep it cool. I stuck mine in a waterproof box (from Maplins - £8), cut a hole in the bottom of the box and stuck a small pc fan (Maplins - £3) on it and wired it so as when the pump turns on, so does the fan. I also drilled a couple of small holes also in the bottom to allow for air flow.
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Be interested to see if that's your opinion after using a few times ;)
Darran
Its been in my backpack over a week now. Not saying it will last 5 years but it will get you out of a tight spot if your pump goes down. Thats why i brought it,as a spare not a long term replacement.
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Be interested to see if that's your opinion after using a few times ;)
Darran
Its been in my backpack over a week now. Not saying it will last 5 years but it will get you out of a tight spot if your pump goes down. Thats why i brought it,as a spare not a long term replacement.
That's not what the op was asking for tho was it ?
The initial question was for van mounted use as alternative to shurflo or flojet
Which having used them I can assure you it's not
After the quantity that have failed I would not rely on them as an outright spare either
I'm happier paying for a known quality item but as the saying goes you pay's yer money and takes your choice
Hope my experiences of this product is of some help
Darran
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interesting, only just posted in another thread about problem with flow on my vyair pump,
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=174566.0
my vyair pump was only 2 years old but showing signs of having slowed down,
yes this pump would work but for how long ?
my experience shows you are better off buying a quality pump - shurflo or flojet etc.
Simon
Simon,
I've just used a replacement kit sent through from Vyair, lost all pressure and flow u/s. E-mailed the guys at Vyair and was sent the kit next day!, my pump was under 12 months, so kit free! Wouldn't imagine it's that expensive to buy.
Has for flowjet, I have one that's done exactly the same and is about 12-14 months old. I'll be contacting Gardiners later as it has a 2 yr warranty.
Rob.
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is this pump still playing well in your backpack mate
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Be interested to see if that's your opinion after using a few times ;)
Darran
Its been in my backpack over a week now. Not saying it will last 5 years but it will get you out of a tight spot if your pump goes down. Thats why i brought it,as a spare not a long term replacement.
That's not what the op was asking for tho was it ?
The initial question was for van mounted use as alternative to shurflo or flojet
Which having used them I can assure you it's not
After the quantity that have failed I would not rely on them as an outright spare either
I'm happier paying for a known quality item but as the saying goes you pay's yer money and takes your choice
Hope my experiences of this product is of some help
Darran
Er, the op was asking how the pump was working out so I replied. Nowt to do with the 1st post. Read the whole post.
Michael the pump works fine,as somebody said it is a little noisy. But for a spare to get you out of a jam it is good,well worth having. :)