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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MWC on July 17, 2013, 08:54:22 am

Title: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 17, 2013, 08:54:22 am
Not wanting to start another slanging match and upset anyone.

We all know archer gets excited when poked but do you think his recent permanent ban was fair, giving that other people were happy to poke fun and continue to do so.

He is crackers but he also brought a lot to this forum and I think he should be allowed back on, he is the window cleaning company of the year remember!!!

Peace  :)
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on July 17, 2013, 08:58:31 am
I think he should be a mod.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Knocker on July 17, 2013, 09:03:31 am
I had a chat with him at the cleaning show in Birmingham a few motns ago, he seemed like top bloke to me.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: dazmond on July 17, 2013, 09:11:12 am
after reading some of the posts of him,ben and cozy i cant understand how childish you all are at times!seriously you need to get a life!! ;D ;D ;D ;D


ive always found ARCHER extremely pleasant and he s done very well in building a successful window cleaning business for himself.

......then again im a nice guy and i wouldnt try and take the pee out of him like some people.


regards



dazmond
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: roundbuilder on July 17, 2013, 09:13:05 am
Bring him back. I have had a few debates with him... Defo a top bloke.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on July 17, 2013, 09:14:24 am
after reading some of the posts of him,ben and cozy i cant understand how childish you all are at times!seriously you need to get a life!! ;D ;D ;D ;D


ive always found ARCHER extremely pleasant and he s done very well in building a successful window cleaning business for himself.

......then again im a nice guy and i wouldnt try and take the pee out of him like some people.


regards



dazmond

Agreed. Idiotic to "wind" someone up! Surely that's the preserve of primary school kids. It's always the same bores doing it too  ::)roll
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 09:17:59 am
Phoning people, making threats because of some daft comment on a forum?

Too far in my opinion.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 17, 2013, 09:30:15 am
Phoning people, making threats because of some daft comment on a forum?

Too far in my opinion.

True but we don't actually know what was said on the phone and maybe should be reported elsewhere. If it was an actual threat would you be writing to CIU for justice, he was more than likely just acting the goat. Granted still a bit far at 12am, does it give Tosh a reasonable right to permanent ban?
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: ben M on July 17, 2013, 09:40:22 am
Phoning people, making threats because of some daft comment on a forum?

Too far in my opinion.
+1
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: ben M on July 17, 2013, 09:47:01 am
after reading some of the posts of him,ben and cozy i cant understand how childish you all are at times!seriously you need to get a life!! ;D ;D ;D ;D


ive always found ARCHER extremely pleasant and he s done very well in building a successful window cleaning business for himself.

......then again im a nice guy and i wouldnt try and take the pee out of him like some people.


regards



dazmond
it is not my fault if he has been banned last night

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=173596.0

read the thread(even if most of the posts have been deleted since) before making a judgement please
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 09:53:52 am
Quote from: ben M
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=173596.0

read the thread(even if most of the posts have been deleted since) before making a judgement please


There isn't really much there. It is all fairly juvenile. Perhaps the deleted stuff was worse?
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on July 17, 2013, 09:56:21 am
He said sorry. What more did you want?

When my mother died a regular on here, suggested I f***ed her to death, thats the level of idiocy we have here Ben, its how you respond that counts.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 10:07:42 am
Quote from: MATT BATEMAN
He said sorry. What more did you want?

When my mother died a regular on here, suggested I f***ed her to death, thats the level of idiocy we have here Ben, its how you respond that counts.

How did you react? Did you phone him up at stupid o'clock and make threats?
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on July 17, 2013, 10:29:41 am
No, I was deeply offended. My mother had just died. I couldn't believe the depths that someone would stoop for their own personal agenda. I still can't believe it actually. I did respond on here to it, which in turn he responded by phoning me up and suggesting he send his friends round for a 'chat'.

The guy is a muppet, he knows who he is, but if he wants to send his friends round he's more than welcome. He really ought to come himself though. Being a thug on here is far different than real life.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 10:40:42 am
Quote from: MATT BATEMAN
No, I was deeply offended. My mother had just died. I couldn't believe the depths that someone would stoop for their own personal agenda. I still can't believe it actually. I did respond on here to it, which in turn he responded by phoning me up and suggesting he send his friends round for a 'chat'.

The guy is a muppet, he knows who he is, but if he wants to send his friends round he's more than welcome. He really ought to come himself though. Being a thug on here is far different than real life.

I'm sure you were. I have been called names, never anything quite so cutting though. It is water off a ducks back for me. The only people who have made me hit the report to mod button as far as I can remember are your good self (can't even remember why, back in the early days when I thought posts on here were more important than they are) and Tosh 'cause, you know, he is a PROPER numpty and a racist.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: G Griffin on July 17, 2013, 11:08:09 am
Archer can be a decent bloke but he loses it too easily. Even if you disagree with him, he gets wound up; he doesn't just log off or have a reasoned debate.
He has been goaded but he then gives people what they want. One memeber who has goaded him, though, has been threatened several times by Archer; wanting to 'meet up'.
One is a bit naughty but the reaction is out of order and illegal, probably.
You can't justify what Archer has done, although I have no problem with him. He has got a problem with anger and maybe needs help with it before using the forum.
So, I don't mind if he comes back (with conditions) or the ban stays.
I don't suppose he's that bothered, either. 

Matt, that is disgraceful and reaffirms, again  ::)roll, that we need more mods.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Geoff on July 17, 2013, 11:57:03 am
Try Paul Weller.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 17, 2013, 12:05:46 pm
I've no problem with him coming back but he needs to grow up a bit first. ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on July 17, 2013, 12:16:56 pm
No, I was deeply offended. My mother had just died. I couldn't believe the depths that someone would stoop for their own personal agenda. I still can't believe it actually. I did respond on here to it, which in turn he responded by phoning me up and suggesting he send his friends round for a 'chat'.

The guy is a muppet, he knows who he is, but if he wants to send his friends round he's more than welcome. He really ought to come himself though. Being a thug on here is far different than real life.

Well that really is truly awful. If that moron is still on, well it makes archers banning seem ludicrous.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 01:06:06 pm
Quote from: MWC
True but we don't actually know what was said on the phone and maybe should be reported elsewhere. If it was an actual threat would you be writing to CIU for justice, he was more than likely just acting the goat. Granted still a bit far at 12am, does it give Tosh a reasonable right to permanent ban?

Quote from: ARCHER
Bacon,

Seriously, for anyone interested in this post why not take up my offer now to meet up, and rather than score cheap points do it face to face.

No idle threat or me being clever over a computer, I will back my words up seriously.

As you know I have offered this to you before but you just be clever with your comments.

Seriously, why don't we do it, anyone that knows me on here knows I am being serious
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: roundbuilder on July 17, 2013, 02:01:13 pm
He said sorry. What more did you want?

When my mother died a regular on here, suggested I f***ed her to death, thats the level of idiocy we have here Ben, its how you respond that counts.
Pure evil!.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 17, 2013, 02:14:02 pm
Quote from: MWC
True but we don't actually know what was said on the phone and maybe should be reported elsewhere. If it was an actual threat would you be writing to CIU for justice, he was more than likely just acting the goat. Granted still a bit far at 12am, does it give Tosh a reasonable right to permanent ban?

Quote from: ARCHER
Bacon,

Seriously, for anyone interested in this post why not take up my offer now to meet up, and rather than score cheap points do it face to face.

No idle threat or me being clever over a computer, I will back my words up seriously.

As you know I have offered this to you before but you just be clever with your comments.

Seriously, why don't we do it, anyone that knows me on here knows I am being serious


Meeting face to face is not a threat, it can also be taken as someone being a keyboard warrior but a chicken when asked to say the same comments face to face, doesn't mean a fight like the good ole school days.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 17, 2013, 02:16:56 pm
As other people have said, if you have ever met ARCHER face to face you will see that he is a very helpful person and a laugh but he wouldn't be afraid to tell someone how it is if he's challenged.

Still doesn't deserve to be the only person banned for the last week of trading insults
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: C o z y on July 17, 2013, 02:21:55 pm
Seems pretty easy to sort out IMO. All you have to do is, e-mail the mods and owners. Explain how you feel and explain Archers case. If you want him back, do something about it. If I wanted him back on the forum, that's what I'd do.

Do you feel that you need moral support? You've got about half the votes, so go for it. Where's the problem? ???
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: ben M on July 17, 2013, 02:29:25 pm
He said sorry. What more did you want?

When my mother died a regular on here, suggested I f***ed her to death, thats the level of idiocy we have here Ben, its how you respond that counts.
i didn't care if he said sorry or not,i just wanted him to leave me alone
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: *Hector* on July 17, 2013, 02:30:45 pm
let him back or not... hey ho... He is just another person on a forum..

He was admittedly getting funnier before he flipped out AGAIN   ...., but he bites too easily..

At least Crispy baits him in good humour, unlike some others on here....

I too had a real nasty comment or 2 from a person on here a while back, that I reported to the police, and as such it puts Archer into the harmless bracket...

If you don't like him.... keep off the threads he posts on, if you want to wind him up... do it in the nutter section....

The guy has a wealth of knowledge about this industry and unlike some... he is willing to pass that knowledge on to others, he may not be the most articulate person in the world, but if being thick was a crime.... there would not be many of us on the outside....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 02:57:24 pm
Quote from: MWC
Meeting face to face is not a threat, it can also be taken as someone being a keyboard warrior but a chicken when asked to say the same comments face to face, doesn't mean a fight like the good ole school days.

The inference is there. You can't deny that this is how most people would interpret an offer to 'meet up' after an argument on a forum.

Perhaps he did mean he wanted to meet up to be insulted to his face, or so he could call people inbred to their faces, that's only going to go one way though isn't it?

Not really something I want to see on a forum I post on. I am a member of a few (mainly Land Rover based) if someone put something like that on any of those they would be banned immediately, whether members voted against it or not.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: tlwcs on July 17, 2013, 04:24:43 pm
let him back or not... hey ho... He is just another person on a forum..

He was admittedly getting funnier before he flipped out AGAIN   ...., but he bites too easily..

At least Crispy baits him in good humour, unlike some others on here....

I too had a real nasty comment or 2 from a person on here a while back, that I reported to the police, and as such it puts Archer into the harmless bracket...

If you don't like him.... keep off the threads he posts on, if you want to wind him up... do it in the nutter section....

The guy has a wealth of knowledge about this industry and unlike some... he is willing to pass that knowledge on to others, he may not be the most articulate person in the world, but if being thick was a crime.... there would not be many of us on the outside....  ;D ;D

Is Archer the guy who has won awards for his successful business but posts asking what to charge for solar panel cleaning? Then goes off on one when people take he mick? If it is bring him back, fantastic sport.
Tony
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: wfp master on July 17, 2013, 04:29:29 pm
justice for archer. free the archer. ::)roll
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: rick trinder on July 17, 2013, 04:35:28 pm
not sure if i should care or not!!!!
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 17, 2013, 04:56:43 pm
justice for archer. free the archer. ::)roll

Lol, justice for Geoffrey
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 17, 2013, 05:09:15 pm
The moderator deleted him - end of. I'm with Soapy on this one.

I don't like the fact that we have two moderators who are here in name only - Ian Giles and DMSI - I mean what is that all about? But it's always been the same on CIU - we had Sarah Sarill for years.

If you resign as a Mod then lose the buttons I say.



Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: C o z y on July 17, 2013, 05:17:21 pm
He's not deleted Malc. Tosh can lift the ban I think. Anyway, Archer will be in touch with the mods soon enough. He's called and e-mailed me often enough  ::)roll
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 05:23:35 pm
Quote from: rick trinder
not sure if i should care or not!!!!

Good point.

Why should I care?

If I don't like what people write I have a choice; read it, don't read it!
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 17, 2013, 05:26:04 pm
hell be back anyway, he can come in as a different name and a differeent email address, then he will get found and get deleted again because his ip address will match up, then he will change his ip address simple.

to be honest his posts at Ben had started to wind me up, weather or not ben started it or was as bad as or whatever he had stoped ages ago and archer kept on at him.  also being called up in the middle of the night bang out of order if you ask me, i would have been calling him 50 times a  day for the rest of his life
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Frankybadboy on July 17, 2013, 06:07:59 pm
don't let him back hes a man utd fan,

end of ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: 8weekly on July 17, 2013, 06:17:59 pm
Anybody that calls someone at midnight because they are angry/drunk should be permanently banned. Tbh, they should ban themselves because it is unhealthy.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 17, 2013, 07:03:44 pm
hes a bit like rooney, can be world class but also can be a right ...
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 17, 2013, 07:04:20 pm
but i can be a right prik as well so i cant really say anything
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 17, 2013, 07:16:11 pm
He said sorry. What more did you want?

When my mother died a regular on here, suggested I f***ed her to death, thats the level of idiocy we have here Ben, its how you respond that counts.

Well said Matt
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Dean Taberner on July 17, 2013, 07:24:15 pm
And to throw the cat amongst the pigeons,

Richy wilts has logged on here since he went away and is still an active member of the forum.

True story,

Dean

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=14988
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: stuart mc on July 17, 2013, 07:30:17 pm
And to throw the cat amongst the pigeons,

Richy wilts has logged on here since he went away and is still an active member of the forum.

True story,

Dean

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=14988

could be his partner, my mate died two weeks ago and is still posting on facebook :o
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 17, 2013, 07:31:19 pm
Keep up....

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=173520.0
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: CleanClear on July 17, 2013, 09:21:02 pm
He said sorry. What more did you want?

When my mother died a regular on here, suggested I f***ed her to death, thats the level of idiocy we have here Ben, its how you respond that counts.
Agreed, its how you respond that counts and archer always comes across to me as a teenager who's had three pints of Stella. He may not drink of course, and i'm not suggesting he does. But he does have a short fuse. Ringing people up at midnight is just totally inappropriate. And offering a fella from Germany for a face to face over some silly internet snipes shows the level of his intellect. You don't have to be clever to run a window cleaning company  ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Geoff on July 17, 2013, 09:32:49 pm
You don't have to be clever to run a window cleaning company  ;D

Could even Hector do it?
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: CleanClear on July 17, 2013, 09:51:24 pm
You don't have to be clever to run a window cleaning company  ;D

Could even Hector do it?

Well like Matt says above, if the level of idiocy is anything to go by then anyone could. ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: stuart mc on July 17, 2013, 09:54:29 pm
You don't have to be clever to run a window cleaning company  ;D

Could even Hector do it?

no chance, far to thick
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: bobplum on July 17, 2013, 10:06:47 pm
whats he done
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: stuart mc on July 17, 2013, 10:56:05 pm
whats he done

who hector?
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: C o z y on July 17, 2013, 10:57:30 pm
You don't have to be clever to run a window cleaning company  ;D

Could even Hector do it?

no chance, far to thick

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: *Hector* on July 18, 2013, 05:32:51 am
 ??? :'( :'(
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Barry W on July 19, 2013, 03:55:13 pm
Being from London area and following Chelsea you can imagine the banter I,ve had with Archer.
He invited me up there a few years ago when we played Man U which I went to, met him and his son, he took me to the pub near the ground would not let me buy a drink as he paid for them all, had a right good day and still keep in touch with him now.

He knows alot about this bussiness and can give good advice if needed and has done in the past.
He won't lose any sleep over this and is probably already on here under someone else which happens alot on most forums.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 24, 2013, 01:14:46 pm
He's back!  ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: ben M on July 24, 2013, 02:14:42 pm
He's back!  ;D
where?
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 24, 2013, 02:30:44 pm
He's back!  ;D
where?

On here! Not allowed to reveal his name yet though as its a probation period
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 24, 2013, 02:37:57 pm
Let's draw him out then.
Archer you mad at us all still?
Are you ready to apologise to each of us for your childish and inane comments?
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: jimiwindows on July 24, 2013, 03:23:56 pm
Cant see wot he done wrong.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: formb on July 24, 2013, 03:26:55 pm
Quote from: jimiwindows
Cant see wot he done wrong.

...........I think he deleted most of it.............
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: MWC on July 24, 2013, 03:39:29 pm
Cant see wot he done wrong.

He didn't do that much, none of it has been deleted as far as I know. He did upset a couple users here, who seem to have influenced the ban
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: jimiwindows on July 24, 2013, 03:42:28 pm
Some on here dont like it if you are doing well.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: tlwcs on July 24, 2013, 04:24:43 pm
Some on here dont like it if you are doing well.

I don't know him or had any run in's with him on here but, If you can't cope with a bit of p taking when you ask daft questions like how much to, or get so wound up that you have to ring members on here at midnight, has got nowt to do with him doing well.
There's some sensitive folk about.
Tony
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: DG Cleaning on July 24, 2013, 05:12:15 pm
So, Archer comes on here and acts like a total bell end because a few of us were winding him up, then he gets banned so it's our fault?
To top it off we only did it because he's got a few vans on the road and he's won window cleaner of the year? (Nominated himself ;D)
 ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll ::)roll
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: ben M on July 24, 2013, 05:33:50 pm
Cant see wot he done wrong.

He didn't do that much, none of it has been deleted as far as I know. He did upset a couple users here, who seem to have influenced the ban
lol, he posted and few minutes later he deleted most of them
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: tlwcs on July 29, 2013, 03:48:17 pm
Welcome back Chris,
Did you like my site? It is one of Nat Jones
Tony
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Archer on July 29, 2013, 04:10:26 pm

Hi Tony,

Seeing as you mention it, I have just had a quick look at your site and yes it looks good.

Do you get much work from it.


Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: tlwcs on July 29, 2013, 04:14:45 pm

Hi Tony,

Seeing as you mention it, I have just had a quick look at your site and yes it looks good.

Do you get much work from it.




A little, but I really only try to take work that is next to what I already service as I'm full.
No plans to get bigger so suits at the moment.
Tony
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Roy Harding on July 29, 2013, 04:45:17 pm
Yes good to have you back.

Roy
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: jimiwindows on July 29, 2013, 04:53:48 pm
Good to see you back archer.
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: PoleKing on July 29, 2013, 06:27:30 pm
He gets a bit vocal but it's only banter online.
Calling people late on is a bit too far IMO.
Baiting people on here was just funny.
Some people can't take it-even if they do give it.
Some people just don't understand English humour-there's always Ryanair home though
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: gary999 on July 29, 2013, 07:21:10 pm
four bloody pages  wasted on a manure fan >:(


flaming disgrace ;D
Title: Re: Vote to bring back ARCHER
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on July 29, 2013, 07:27:42 pm
Lol welcome back Chris
Superb he's back lol