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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richard iSparkle on July 16, 2013, 06:37:44 pm
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My leafleter was delivering leaflets on the Wirral today and the owner of Alpha Gleam confronted him, thinking it was me, and said to tell me he will put a bullet in my head and blow up my vans if i continue to operate in his area
http://www.alphagleam.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alpha-Gleam-window-cleaning-exterior-maintenance/102733776467469
was driving a sign writen van.
then he gave the leafleter a flyer and told him to get me to call him ???
any thoughts? ::)roll
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Go stick one of your flyers through his door.
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Take leafletter to police and give statements and also flyer that he gave you, even if its just an idle threat, you can't let these bullies get away with it
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I would give him a call for sure. And while I was on the phone remind him of his membership of the Fed. His behavior is disgusting.
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Take leafletter to police and give statements and also flyer that he gave you, even if its just an idle threat, you can't let these bullies get away with it
+ 1 , What a pratt he must be to go round and threating people , they are obviously losing work and are not happy . Mike
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Do as per previous post. Take leafletter to the police and make statements. The guy is in serious poo for making specific threats about shooting, what a scumbag.
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report to police and the fed, don't get involved in a slanging match on the phone
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or on facebook richard ;D just seen your comment
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My leafleter was delivering leaflets on the Wirral today and the owner of Alpha Gleam confronted him, thinking it was me, and said to tell me he will put a bullet in my head and blow up my vans if i continue to operate in his area
http://www.alphagleam.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alpha-Gleam-window-cleaning-exterior-maintenance/102733776467469
was driving a sign writen van.
then he gave the leafleter a flyer and told him to get me to call him ???
any thoughts? ::)roll
He was probably talking about using his spud gun and stink bombs............the silly sausage.
I wonder if his mummy still reads him bedtime stories? ::)roll
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Id go round and confront him! Sounds a right loser who is jealous that you have the drive to succeed.
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Blimy boys-calm down.
Could have been 'dramatised' by the canvasser.
The 'bully' gave your lad a flyer-give him a call, say "my canvasser said you had something you wanted to say to me..." Then see what he's like.
Don't judge him till you've heard with your own ears what he has to say.
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Go to the cops, make a statement and call the guy while u there. Put him on speaker for the copper interviewing you to hear.
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Report to the cozzers. Forget it then, unless it kicks off, then you have history of the prat. Those that threaten aren't the problem. Rarely comes to anything. I wouldn't get involved with knuckle draggers now. I used to meet up with them and calm 'em down. Can't be arsed now.
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What I would like to see is a mass invitation to the bloke, to come on here and explain himself.
I am off to send him a link to this page, if we all do the same maybe we will see both sides of the story.... ;)
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Go stick one of your flyers through his door.
:D
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What I would like to see is a mass invitation to the bloke, to come on here and explain himself.
I am off to send him a link to this page, if we all do the same maybe we will see both sides of the story.... ;)
;D
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Lets hang him on here. ;)
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Go stick one of your flyers through his door.
:D
With cat crap all over the back of it!
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Go round & start cleaning his house windows. ;D
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My leafleter was delivering leaflets on the Wirral today and the owner of Alpha Gleam confronted him, thinking it was me, and said to tell me he will put a bullet in my head and blow up my vans if i continue to operate in his area
http://www.alphagleam.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alpha-Gleam-window-cleaning-exterior-maintenance/102733776467469
was driving a sign writen van.
then he gave the leafleter a flyer and told him to get me to call him Huh
any thoughts? Roll Eyes
Take it this was bromborough? hes come up to me in the past hasn't really said any of the above though but that's what hes like by the sounds of things he was trying to put across to me.
What colour is there van black? i would defiantly go the police... there was a big thing with the police and window cleaners a few years ago around this area from people getting threatened i imagine its him.. so i would take a trip to the cop shop.
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bombard his facebook with messages ;D
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Take leafletter to police and give statements and also flyer that he gave you, even if its just an idle threat, you can't let these bullies get away with it
Even i will say this is really the only thing to do in this situation. A death threat is not on at all! Call the police asap!
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No point, 8 likes and no posts for 2 years, he doesn't use it. Contact him through his web site maybe.
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Blimy boys-calm down.
Could have been 'dramatised' by the canvasser.
The 'bully' gave your lad a flyer-give him a call, say "my canvasser said you had something you wanted to say to me..." Then see what he's like.
Don't judge him till you've heard with your own ears what he has to say.
the guy leafleting isn;t the type to dramatise and was visibly shaken by the incident. he's no young lad himself and has dropped over 70000 leaflets for me over the past year. this is the first incident.
there's also not a lot of room for error on the 'tell him i'm gonna put a bullet in his head and blow up his van' statement.
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Do not contact him. Tell the police straight away. If he has records of you contacting him he could say anything, you'll have no hard evidence only him. Then it becomes tit for tat in the eyes of the fuzz.
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What I would like to see is a mass invitation to the bloke, to come on here and explain himself.
I am off to send him a link to this page, if we all do the same maybe we will see both sides of the story.... ;)
If he thinks he can get away with death threats he's wrong! IF it turns out to be true that hew did this he's in serious trouble!!! >:(
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If hes got a history of this I would get the police.
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My leafleter was delivering leaflets on the Wirral today and the owner of Alpha Gleam confronted him, thinking it was me, and said to tell me he will put a bullet in my head and blow up my vans if i continue to operate in his area
http://www.alphagleam.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alpha-Gleam-window-cleaning-exterior-maintenance/102733776467469
was driving a sign writen van.
then he gave the leafleter a flyer and told him to get me to call him Huh
any thoughts? Roll Eyes
Take it this was bromborough? hes come up to me in the past hasn't really said any of the above though but that's what hes like by the sounds of things he was trying to put across to me.
What colour is there van black? i would defiantly go the police... there was a big thing with the police and window cleaners a few years ago around this area from people getting threatened i imagine its him.. so i would take a trip to the cop shop.
hey Dave,
i guess it could well have been Bromborough. they're leafleting Eastham and upwards this week so that makes sense.
i've reported it to the police tonight and decided there's no point in calling him myself.
i;m waiting for them to call me, but they're interviewing by leafleter tonight.
every time i'm threatened i report it to the police and every time that is the end of it... hope this is the same.
my leafleter's dropping another 10000 in the area over this week so i guess if he was annoyed today... his mood aint gonna get much better as the week goes on! :'(
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Are you going to karate chop him to bits. ;D
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What is his name? Lee Bullbridge?
You need to contact him asap.
He is planning to make the Window Wars UK documentary ;D
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My leafleter was delivering leaflets on the Wirral today and the owner of Alpha Gleam confronted him, thinking it was me, and said to tell me he will put a bullet in my head and blow up my vans if i continue to operate in his area
http://www.alphagleam.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alpha-Gleam-window-cleaning-exterior-maintenance/102733776467469
was driving a sign writen van.
then he gave the leafleter a flyer and told him to get me to call him Huh
any thoughts? Roll Eyes
Take it this was bromborough? hes come up to me in the past hasn't really said any of the above though but that's what hes like by the sounds of things he was trying to put across to me.
What colour is there van black? i would defiantly go the police... there was a big thing with the police and window cleaners a few years ago around this area from people getting threatened i imagine its him.. so i would take a trip to the cop shop.
hey Dave,
i guess it could well have been Bromborough. they're leafleting Eastham and upwards this week so that makes sense.
i've reported it to the police tonight and decided there's no point in calling him myself.
i;m waiting for them to call me, but they're interviewing by leafleter tonight.
every time i'm threatened i report it to the police and every time that is the end of it... hope this is the same.
my leafleter's dropping another 10000 in the area over this week so i guess if he was annoyed today... his mood aint gonna get much better as the week goes on! :'(
Best remove the comment off his Facebook mate. ;)
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hey Dave,
i guess it could well have been Bromborough. they're leafleting Eastham and upwards this week so that makes sense.
i've reported it to the police tonight and decided there's no point in calling him myself.
i;m waiting for them to call me, but they're interviewing by leafleter tonight.
every time i'm threatened i report it to the police and every time that is the end of it... hope this is the same.
my leafleter's dropping another 10000 in the area over this week so i guess if he was annoyed today... his mood aint gonna get much better as the week goes on! Cry
Think he covers Eastham to i persume.
Ive only ever been to the police once they just wrote it down in a book lol.. rich every time uv been to the police do they got to visit the window cleaner who has threatend you?
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My leafleter was delivering leaflets on the Wirral today and the owner of Alpha Gleam confronted him, thinking it was me, and said to tell me he will put a bullet in my head and blow up my vans if i continue to operate in his area
http://www.alphagleam.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alpha-Gleam-window-cleaning-exterior-maintenance/102733776467469
was driving a sign writen van.
then he gave the leafleter a flyer and told him to get me to call him Huh
any thoughts? Roll Eyes
Take it this was bromborough? hes come up to me in the past hasn't really said any of the above though but that's what hes like by the sounds of things he was trying to put across to me.
What colour is there van black? i would defiantly go the police... there was a big thing with the police and window cleaners a few years ago around this area from people getting threatened i imagine its him.. so i would take a trip to the cop shop.
hey Dave,
i guess it could well have been Bromborough. they're leafleting Eastham and upwards this week so that makes sense.
i've reported it to the police tonight and decided there's no point in calling him myself.
i;m waiting for them to call me, but they're interviewing by leafleter tonight.
every time i'm threatened i report it to the police and every time that is the end of it... hope this is the same.
my leafleter's dropping another 10000 in the area over this week so i guess if he was annoyed today... his mood aint gonna get much better as the week goes on! :'(
Best remove the comment off his Facebook mate. ;)
it's not my comment? that's off a Richard Jagger from Basingstoke? ???
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hey Dave,
i guess it could well have been Bromborough. they're leafleting Eastham and upwards this week so that makes sense.
i've reported it to the police tonight and decided there's no point in calling him myself.
i;m waiting for them to call me, but they're interviewing by leafleter tonight.
every time i'm threatened i report it to the police and every time that is the end of it... hope this is the same.
my leafleter's dropping another 10000 in the area over this week so i guess if he was annoyed today... his mood aint gonna get much better as the week goes on! Cry
Think he covers Eastham to i persume.
Ive only ever been to the police once they just wrote it down in a book lol.. rich every time uv been to the police do they got to visit the window cleaner who has threatend you?
every other time ive reported threats its been ex employees or job applicants. every time the police say there's no specific threat so they cant do anything, and then i ask them to call them to warn them that i have reported them... which they then do.
this time its a little different as it is a specific threat of violence to me and my property so i guess the police will be a little more proactive
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What is his name? Lee Bullbridge?
You need to contact him asap.
He is planning to make the Window Wars UK documentary ;D
ross kemp on window cleaning wars.
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Sorry Richard, thought that was yours ::)roll DOH!
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Sorry Richard, thought that was yours ::)roll DOH!
so did I 2+2=5doh
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No point, 8 likes and no posts for 2 years, he doesn't use it. Contact him through his web site maybe.
Good point
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theres only one thing you can do and thats get his van before he cqn get yours ;-)
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Take leafletter to police and give statements and also flyer that he gave you, even if its just an idle threat, you can't let these bullies get away with it
Even i will say this is really the only thing to do in this situation. A death threat is not on at all! Call the police asap!
+1
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My leafleter was delivering leaflets on the Wirral today and the owner of Alpha Gleam confronted him, thinking it was me, and said to tell me he will put a bullet in my head and blow up my vans if i continue to operate in his area
http://www.alphagleam.co.uk/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alpha-Gleam-window-cleaning-exterior-maintenance/102733776467469
was driving a sign writen van.
then he gave the leafleter a flyer and told him to get me to call him ???
any thoughts? ::)roll
you deserve it..............taking over the wirral ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.......thats richys area :D
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i have just been on the website and told him were you live in chester and if he has balls to go and see you in person..........thats told him ;)
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can i just add.............this is with doubt the best post on here within the last few weeks :D :D
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i have just been on the website and told him were you live in chester and if he has balls to go and see you in person..........thats told him ;)
He's more likely to find your van if he's looking at my house... you're always bumbling around there ;-)
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i have just been on the website and told him were you live in chester and if he has balls to go and see you in person..........thats told him ;)
:D :D
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i have just been on the website and told him were you live in chester and if he has balls to go and see you in person..........thats told him ;)
:D :D
You could be rockin the boat!
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Report him to the police.
They will take it seriously.
When one of the dunderheads on here from Scotland tried to intimidate me I got the police involved. in hindsight it was funny, cos when I returned the calls, he wouldnt answer his phone, the dopey tw@t had used his wifes phone thinking he wouldnt be traced. Then tried to blame his staff when he was confronted by them.
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still on here ?
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Who, the fella that I reported?
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
Lol are you kidding? What did you do to warrant that?
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He left brown spots on his caravan windows ;)
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
Yes he does.
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
Lol are you kidding? What did you do to warrant that?
He wouldn't buy any lucky heather.
I reckon Bobby will be found buried under some tarmac, one day.
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So much willy waving in this thread.
Also, what's a gypsy overlord? Sounds like something from17th century Spain.
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Wrong way to deal with a threat posting on a forum, if you feel your life is at risk then go to the police, and let them deal with it ! Do you really feel threatened ? You heard the so called threat from another person ?
Grow a pair, and move on fella, in my opinion the people that make threats are the ones that can't back it up.
Unless you live in Mexico ;D
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
Lol are you kidding? What did you do to warrant that?
about the year 2000,back when i was a mechanic, i put a new clutch in a car belonging to a man called Dodge, he drove off without paying so i rang the police . Dodge didnt like that and later the gypsy overlord (eastern region )left an answerphone message with the promise of my demise . i had one of those old answerphones with a tape inside so the police took it away as hard evidence
i laff about it now but at the time the C.I.D. got involved , tho it was hardly a manhunt Dodge and his lot were spoken to .
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
Lol are you kidding? What did you do to warrant that?
about the year 2000,back when i was a mechanic, i put a new clutch in a car belonging to a man called Dodge, he drove off without paying so i rang the police . Dodge didnt like that and later the gypsy overlord (eastern region )left an answerphone message with the promise of my demise . i had one of those old answerphones with a tape inside so the police took it away as hard evidence
i laff about it now but at the time the C.I.D. got involved , tho it was hardly a manhunt Dodge and his lot were spoken to .
You class this as a contract being put on your head? Lol a slight overreaction imo.
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I think he may be offering you a role in his latest movie....
On his site the picture on the home page linking to window cleaning says it was
"taken from the movie shoot 'em up" ;D
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
Lol are you kidding? What did you do to warrant that?
about the year 2000,back when i was a mechanic, i put a new clutch in a car belonging to a man called Dodge, he drove off without paying so i rang the police . Dodge didnt like that and later the gypsy overlord (eastern region )left an answerphone message with the promise of my demise . i had one of those old answerphones with a tape inside so the police took it away as hard evidence
i laff about it now but at the time the C.I.D. got involved , tho it was hardly a manhunt Dodge and his lot were spoken to .
You class this as a contract being put on your head? Lol a slight overreaction imo.
Don't underestimate Dodge and his overlord.
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yep,jus wonderin
i once was threatend by a gypsy overlord , a contract had been put out on me by the gypsy council too- police put a halt to it
Lol are you kidding? What did you do to warrant that?
about the year 2000,back when i was a mechanic, i put a new clutch in a car belonging to a man called Dodge, he drove off without paying so i rang the police . Dodge didnt like that and later the gypsy overlord (eastern region )left an answerphone message with the promise of my demise . i had one of those old answerphones with a tape inside so the police took it away as hard evidence
i laff about it now but at the time the C.I.D. got involved , tho it was hardly a manhunt Dodge and his lot were spoken to .
You class this as a contract being put on your head? Lol a slight overreaction imo.
part of me felt honoured , that id been chosen to get shot at , bit daft that
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Alpha Gleam ,the name has a kind of military slant to it dont it , praps he owns a Luger selection bought overseas
thing is ,u never know until u are shot at as to how you will react- do you rush forward and fight back with barehands ,or do you cry like a baby !!!
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Alpha Gleam ,the name has a kind of military slant to it dont it , praps he owns a Luger selection bought overseas
thing is ,u never know until u are shot at as to how you will react- do you rush forward and fight back with barehands ,or do you cry like a baby !!!
You're right; there should be some sort of training for this sort of thing.
Window cleaning is light years behind drug dealing, in this respect.
We are a joke.
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Alpha Gleam ,the name has a kind of military slant to it dont it , praps he owns a Luger selection bought overseas
thing is ,u never know until u are shot at as to how you will react- do you rush forward and fight back with barehands ,or do you cry like a baby !!!
You're right; there should be some sort of training for this sort of thing.
Window cleaning is light years behind drug dealing, in this respect.
We are a joke.
gives a new slant on a training firm called IMPACT 43 :o ............... they got a new course out only £1300 with free kevlar body armour
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;D
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there all the soft lads on here saying call the police ! and what do you think they will do ??? errrr northing that's what his word agains the guys no one to witness it ????? a business owner word vs a small part time street walker I would love to see that in court
waste of time and not worth the hassle far better to let it go be the bigger man ,and just think the dark nights will be here soon ;)
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So is there any news yet mate? did you report to the police?
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there all the soft lads on here saying call the police ! and what do you think they will do ??? errrr northing that's what his word agains the guys no one to witness it ????? a business owner word vs a small part time street walker I would love to see that in court
waste of time and not worth the hassle far better to let it go be the bigger man ,and just think the dark nights will be here soon ;)
Not true.
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there all the soft lads on here saying call the police ! and what do you think they will do ??? errrr northing that's what his word agains the guys no one to witness it ????? a business owner word vs a small part time street walker I would love to see that in court
waste of time and not worth the hassle far better to let it go be the bigger man ,and just think the dark nights will be here soon ;)
What would you do then?
Put a pick axe through his eye?
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Work where you like don't take s@@@ from anyone
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there all the soft lads on here saying call the police ! and what do you think they will do ??? errrr northing that's what his word agains the guys no one to witness it ????? a business owner word vs a small part time street walker I would love to see that in court
waste of time and not worth the hassle far better to let it go be the bigger man ,and just think the dark nights will be here soon ;)
Stupid.
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So is there any news yet mate? did you report to the police?
yes, i reported it to the police yesterday and gave a statement today after work. they have to speak to the leafleter still, and then i guess they speak to the numpty.
the police asked me if i took the threat seriously and i said that yes i had to. as he was threatening me directly, my van that was kept on my property where my wife and infant son live, and that i have 3 young staff members, all with family too, i had to take it seriously and reported it to the police because of this.
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So is there any news yet mate? did you report to the police?
yes, i reported it to the police yesterday and gave a statement today after work. they have to speak to the leafleter still, and then i guess they speak to the numpty.
the police asked me if i took the threat seriously and i said that yes i had to. as he was threatening me directly, my van that was kept on my property where my wife and infant son live, and that i have 3 young staff members, all with family too, i had to take it seriously and reported it to the police because of this.
well done mate,best thing to do
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there all the soft lads on here saying call the police ! and what do you think they will do ??? errrr northing that's what his word agains the guys no one to witness it ????? a business owner word vs a small part time street walker I would love to see that in court
waste of time and not worth the hassle far better to let it go be the bigger man ,and just think the dark nights will be here soon ;)
Someone interpret into English please.
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I think it's time to move out of town
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I think it's time to move out of town
???
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I think it's time to move out of town
Saying things like this is not helpful mate. have alittle bloody respect! i hope your joking!?
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I think it's time to move out of town
is that you alpha gleam. ???
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I think it's time to move out of town
is that you alpha gleam. ???
Yeah is that you alpha?
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Anymore news on this yet?
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Anymore news on this yet?
Yeah i wanna know also!?
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Anymore news on this yet?
Yeah i wanna know also!?
Police have both of our statements now.
unfortunately as the incident happened on the Wirral (Merseyside), Rob lives in Ellesmere port, and i live in Chester we are caught between police force boundaries.
this means that the officers who have taken the statements wont follow them up and have passed thier work onto Merseyside police to act.
I'll chase them up tomorrow to see what is happening.
they have registered my home and business address as critical (i think) so that we get flagged up as high priority if we call in
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Anymore news on this yet?
Yeah i wanna know also!?
Police have both of our statements now.
unfortunately as the incident happened on the Wirral (Merseyside), Rob lives in Ellesmere port, and i live in Chester we are caught between police force boundaries.
this means that the officers who have taken the statements wont follow them up and have passed thier work onto Merseyside police to act.
I'll chase them up tomorrow to see what is happening.
they have registered my home and business address as critical (i think) so that we get flagged up as high priority if we call in
Good! in the mean time, for self defense, check out www.gracieuniversity.com!
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keep us up dated!
he deserves everything that comes to him even though it will only probably be a warning.
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thats great.... IF your willing to kill!?
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Idiot.
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its sick to think there is ppl like that what a brat i hate bullies what ever u do keep doing them flyers mate don't worry about them scum.
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Tut tut bob thats not how we do things in posh chester .......
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Tut tut bob thats not how we do things in posh chester .......
Lol. I've been to Chester
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Bang on (pardon the pun) couldn't agree more. Pop a cap in the guys ass, problem solved, just make sure no one sees you though!! ;)
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this means that the officers who have taken the statements wont follow them up and have passed thier work onto Merseyside police to act.
Richard what you , your cleaners or your canvassers need to do is to respond to any confrontation in an extremley camp and effeminate voice. Almost inviting mockery from your aggressor, then when they (and they will) question or assume your sexuality (i.e your nothing but a big poofter) call the police and tell them its a bullying thing because they think you're gay. That will get a quicker response, and also a more thorough response. If ya can't beat them, join them !!!
It looks like you've already been fed the we'll get someone else to look at it crap. If they where taking it anyway serious they'd of been out to him by now. Given your allegation its hard to believe nothing has happened yet from their side. Besides the Police are too busy making late night movies showing people caught ping on a wall after being on the ale all night to worry about your mundane gun and blow your vans up threats.
Not sure if i got my point across very well that the Police are a waste of time. Incase i never, they are.
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Ring him up and offer him a straightner, the winner keeps the losers round.
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Idiot.
joke....my humour might be different to yours but that does not make me an idiot,i do have a degree in astronomy,HNC (mechanical engineering) yes i might be weird at times and come at things at a different angle but that does not make me an idiot......just different to you ;)
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And very old.
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And very old.
...and crabbie. ;)
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And very old.
...and crabbie. ;)
i prefer grumpy :D
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Back in the day When i was a lemon, I told someone I was gonna kill them. They called the Rozzas on me and I got nicked for it. Spent a night in the clink and cps charged me with making a "threat to kill" yes it's a criminal offence that can lead to a prosecution!
I got fined about a hundred quid, and a conditional discharge. Do it again and it's 7 days at hmp!
Can't understand why this guy hasn't been nicked?
As tough as he reckons he is, getting nicked is highly inconvenient.
Don't think the law has been changed, tell the old bill you wanna press charges. No one should have to put up with this kind of threat. I fully deserved my punishment. In retrospect I should have been dealt with even harsher.
Completely unacceptable behaviour.
Easy to say just "knock him out" or "torch his van" but in reality if your capable of those things, why are you cleaning windows? You should be a bouncer or a hitman!
Just my tuppence worth.
Ps, if he comes near your house, just accidentally run him over!
Bvc
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Back in the day When i was a lemon, I told someone I was gonna kill them. They called the Rozzas on me and I got nicked for it. Spent a night in the clink and cps charged me with making a "threat to kill" yes it's a criminal offence that can lead to a prosecution!
I got fined about a hundred quid, and a conditional discharge. Do it again and it's 7 days at hmp!
Can't understand why this guy hasn't been nicked?
As tough as he reckons he is, getting nicked is highly inconvenient.
Don't think the law has been changed, tell the old bill you wanna press charges. No one should have to put up with this kind of threat. I fully deserved my punishment. In retrospect I should have been dealt with even harsher.
Completely unacceptable behaviour.
Easy to say just "knock him out" or "torch his van" but in reality if your capable of those things, why are you cleaning windows? You should be a bouncer or a hitman!
Just my tuppence worth.
Ps, if he comes near your house, just accidentally run him over!
Bvc
Thanks BVC.
I'll give them a call now and tell them i wish to press charges.
Appreciate your input here.
Richard
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Richard you cannot let him get away with this mate! please keep us updated on the matter! I really can't stand bullies. Up until i started doing martial arts i was a wimp and was bullied at school and have been a coward most of my life. Now the tables have turned! The thing is with me though is i maybe sometimes am a little too quick to respond nowadays.
I'm not giving it the big one but i'm not so sure i could let this kind of thing lie, I have a feeling i would be round his house banging on his door! I'd like to think though i would do what your doing now and going about it in the proper way!
Because if you go taking the law into your own hands it can backfire seriously! Before you know it you hurt him (maybe even accidentily kill him) then what!? All because of some numpty!
I think the best thing is to learn self defence (like i have!) BUT be able to laugh at people like this and see there inferiority's. And push his buttons to get back at him like others have said on here! You know... Like when you see him shout abuse at him and just annoy him until he wishes he hadnt said anything! All the while knowing if it comes down to it you can take him ;) ;D
George
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Ps, if he comes near your house, just accidentally run him over!
;D ;D
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Richard you cannot let him get away with this mate! please keep us updated on the matter! I really can't stand bullies. Up until i started doing martial arts i was a wimp and was bullied at school and have been a coward most of my life. Now the tables have turned! The thing is with me though is i maybe sometimes am a little too quick to respond nowadays.
I'm not giving it the big one but i'm not so sure i could let this kind of thing lie, I have a feeling i would be round his house banging on his door! I'd like to think though i would do what your doing now and going about it in the proper way!
Because if you go taking the law into your own hands it can backfire seriously! Before you know it you hurt him (maybe even accidentily kill him) then what!? All because of some numpty!
I think the best thing is to learn self defence (like i have!) BUT be able to laugh at people like this and see there inferiority's. And push his buttons to get back at him like others have said on here! You know... Like when you see him shout abuse at him and just annoy him until he wishes he hadnt said anything! All the while knowing if it comes down to it you can take ;) ;D
George
hey george,
i'll keep you all posted on this... just no news about it at the moment. i'm waiting for a call off merseyside police with an update.
we dropped a further 10000 leaflets in his area this week, and are in eastham again on tuesday for our round there so nothing changed in my outlook in that sense.
what i have going for me is that my guy who works for me is actually a retired pro kickboxer and a current cage fighter. he's only 5'2 and looks friendly enough, but if anyone tries to bully him they will find themselves getting hit. in some ways it's not ideal, as i know he has a short fuse with this sort of thing, but at least i don't need to worry about him ;)
as for myself... i;m 6'2 and never been in a fight in my life. but i;m a stubborn guy and dont like being pushed around... so i;ll stick with the police route and will be happy to pick up the guys work when he ends up cell mates with Richy Wilts :o
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u taking all richy wilts's work? ;D
thought his business was still running.
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nope, not had any rise in our eport enquiries.
it's not been in the papers so i guess his clients wont know where he is. and as he doesnt do the cleaning they wont notice.
i guess there will just be a gradual decline in their service quality, over time...
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more than likely end up going slap dash yeah
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The police WILL investigate this properly, we had a guy text us and asked us to supply a drivers address or he was going to torch our vans.
The police put a trace on the mobile, and found out it was a pay and go from Tesco, eventually they spoke to the owner of the phone who said he sold it months ago.
Not had any threats since,
The police do really follow these things up, they were brilliant with us and phoned us regularly to keep us updated
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The police WILL investigate this properly, we had a guy text us and asked us to supply a drivers address or he was going to torch our vans.
The police put a trace on the mobile, and found out it was a pay and go from Tesco, eventually they spoke to the owner of the phone who said he sold it months ago.
Not had any threats since,
The police do really follow these things up, they were brilliant with us and phoned us regularly to keep us updated
Maybe in Devon and Cornwall but I wouldn't expect that Merseyside police will be viewing this incident as seriously.
I hope I'm wrong though.
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Oh sorry I forgot Mersyside Cops have different rules to Cornwall cops, what a numpty am I
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The police WILL investigate this properly, we had a guy text us and asked us to supply a drivers address or he was going to torch our vans.
The police put a trace on the mobile, and found out it was a pay and go from Tesco, eventually they spoke to the owner of the phone who said he sold it months ago.
Not had any threats since,
The police do really follow these things up, they were brilliant with us and phoned us regularly to keep us updated
Any PAYG can also be traced. Most people who threaten others are generally thick as $hit. With a PAYG phone if you pay for your top up online, or over a counter with a credit or debit card or at an ATM machine at ANY time then your knicked. They haven't got the nouse to think of that. That twot off CIU, Gordon (whoops! ;D) up in Scotland who threatened me had to resort to lying to the rozzers that it was his staff doing the threatening on his wife's phone at 19.30 at night. Why was his wife associating with his staff at 19.30 on a Saturday night? Perhaps she'd been playing away, again ;D
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Oh sorry I forgot Mersyside Cops have different rules to Cornwall cops, what a numpty am I
Same rules, but different priorities, targets etc. In Cornwall I expect they have to deal with more "rural" crimes like sheep sh@gg1ng. ;D
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Oh sorry I forgot Mersyside Cops have different rules to Cornwall cops, what a numpty am I
No need for the silly reply Dave. It's obvious what I meant.
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Not obvious to me,
Cornwall still has its problems, Drugs, Murders, Assaults, burgalry.
All the same the police will follow it through
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Please stick to the police route, its all right going on about kick boxers, self defence etc but not everyone plays by the rules.
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Oh sorry I forgot Mersyside Cops have different rules to Cornwall cops, what a numpty am I
no there not but the police in mersyside are under paid and over worked and they deal with a lot more harsher crime everyday then where your from make what sounds to you a real deal to them its just everyday talk
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;D dave is a scouser living in cornwall ::)roll I think he is well aware and knows what he is saying. don't believe all you see on Doc Martin :D
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Ok guys I am so sorry for giving the wrong advice, I just thought the police reacted the same no matter where you live, you live and learn hey
what do i know anyway, I am just a simple northerner from Salford, things must of changed since I moved
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mmmm I was convinced you were from scouseland ::)roll not far off though, a few miles west and you would have been ;D
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Hi Stuart I support LFC , that could be the confusion
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Hi Stuart I support LFC , that could be the confusion
A Manc supporting Liverpool? No wonder you left. ;D
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yes that would be right, I vaguely remember you saying so in the past ;)
ps how come merseyside police are under paid Susan and not all the other forces, not getting that
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Yes forgot, Cornwall police are always asleep in there patrol cars, no crime down here my boy
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Yes forgot, Cornwall police are always asleep in there patrol cars, no crime down here my boy
they are not too busy here in Devon or cornwall to be honest, must be busier in mersyside
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Yes forgot, Cornwall police are always asleep in there patrol cars, no crime down here my boy
they are not too busy here in Devon or cornwall to be honest, must be busier in mersyside
think you will find there are more of them in Merseyside though ;)
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Its all relative to the size of the area
There was a massive drug bust a couple of weeks ago in Falmouth and Newquay, alls not as quiet as it seems
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-23000132
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22267658
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http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/8885115.Pervert_caught_pleasuring_himself_in_slurry_for_third_time/
http://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/8286666.Man_in_dress_performed_sex_act_on_dog_at_Pendennis_Castle__Falmouth/
http://metro.co.uk/2007/06/27/furring-is-new-sex-craze-for-perverts-477540/
It's all going off in Devon and Cornwall.
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Deege
My links were to highlight the case that there is crime in Cornwall,
I could easily have a look and find similar links to what you have posted, just you because you posted them doesnt mean they cancel out the big crimes
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I was purely making a joke out of the situation.
Of course there is crime in Cornwall, I'm not naive enough to think there isn't, obviously serious crime too.
My original point was that the crime in Cornwall isn't on the same scale as in Merseyside. Surely we can agree on that?
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They got Wreckers and Smugglers in Cornwall. Ooo Arrrrr!
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A few years ago, someone vandalised the daffodils outside of the old people's home in Chepstow. That's about as bad as it gets here.
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Yep, most of my wages get smuggled down to Cornwall to an Old Pirate in Saint Austell.
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I think its time to get my
coat cat suit
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i love ol Jethro.
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They got Wreckers and Smugglers in Cornwall. Ooo Arrrrr!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-23007154
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Its all relative to the size of the area
There was a massive drug bust a couple of weeks ago in Falmouth and Newquay, alls not as quiet as it seems
Yeah, I heard a drama teacher got caught with an eighth of weed.
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Any news on this yet?
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Any news on this yet?
Yeah whats going on?
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I'm going to kill Richard if he doesnt tell us and he just leaves us in the lurch.
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I'm going to kill Richard if he doesnt tell us and he just leaves us in the lurch.
;D
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I'm going to kill Richard if he doesnt tell us and he just leaves us in the lurch.
;D
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I'm going to kill Richard if he doesnt tell us and he just leaves us in the lurch.
;D
Perhaps someone already has. :o
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I'm going to kill Richard if he doesnt tell us and he just leaves us in the lurch.
;D
Perhaps someone already has. :o
I never thought of that actually! He may well be dead!? can i have his pole? I would poach his custys but i aint working in liverpool! ;D
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Nothing new to report.
I've had 3 calls from police officers (all different) this week telling me they are involved and they'll follow it up and report back to me. Latest was yesterday morning. Still nothing done so far as I can tell. The last one asked me if I knew his name or contact details, I gave these on the first day I reported it, and again when I gave my statement, so not exactly reassuring! I'll give them a call on Monday and make a complaint if there's no progress
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how anoying..
if it was a shop and someone get threatend or something stolen out of a shop they would be round
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Nothing new to report.
I've had 3 calls from police officers (all different) this week telling me they are involved and they'll follow it up and report back to me. Latest was yesterday morning. Still nothing done so far as I can tell. The last one asked me if I knew his name or contact details, I gave these on the first day I reported it, and again when I gave my statement, so not exactly reassuring! I'll give them a call on Monday and make a complaint if there's no progress
This one often works in showing you are serious about wanting it sorted.
"I'm sorry but I feel you aren't taking this seriously; I feel distressed at what has happened, would you tell me what your next step is and when that is likely to be?"
If the answer is unsatisfactory then very politely say: "I'm not happy with this - please let me know the name and rank of your divisional commander (usually a Superintendent or Chief Superintendent) and also where I can write to him or her about this please?"
Using that shows you know a bit about the structure of the force and that you are intending to contact someone high enough up the chain of command that they will not wish to displease.
Then if they haven't got back to you quickly send the letter. (After asking the barrack room lawyers and frustrated journalists on CIU how best to compose it of course! ;D)
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Cheers Granville. Good advice. I;ll chase it up Monday
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Nothing new to report.
I've had 3 calls from police officers (all different) this week telling me they are involved and they'll follow it up and report back to me. Latest was yesterday morning. Still nothing done so far as I can tell. The last one asked me if I knew his name or contact details, I gave these on the first day I reported it, and again when I gave my statement, so not exactly reassuring! I'll give them a call on Monday and make a complaint if there's no progress
told you northing would happen ;D
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i would to say the report is a log of evidence for if something did actually happen rather than anything else
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The fella never came on here to explain himself.
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Just got back from the police station.
They have had the owner in who made the threat and he admitted to acting aggressively and threatening, tho did not admit to making a death threat.
apparently the owner is unhappy with what is happening in the area with the number of WCs operating here nowadays and was very frustrated. he also said that he was not unhappy with us delivering leaflets, but with the leafleters knocking on his customer's doors. of course that hasn't happened as i employ leafleters not canvassers (currently) and leafleters just dont take it upon themselves to start door knocking!
the police are nowadays apparently using 'restorative justice' and this means that he has to write a letter of apology to me, and admit what has happened. i was given the letter today by the police.
the incident is kept on file now and is closed, but will be reopened if any further incidents occur, and what has happened will then be reopened.
if anything does happen in the future, this character has now had his chance at 'restorative justice' and will be charged.
i am happy with this outcome as it puts an end to any more time wasting activity from me, but also gives him the message that i will involve the police any time he acts like this towards myself or my staff again.
thanks for all your support :) i genuinely appreciate it, and was, if i am being honest, surprised and humbled by :)
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Great news Richard.
Glad you're sorted.
All the best
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common sense policing, who would have thunk it eh ;D
nah glad it is sorted, I would be happy with that
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I think it's quite easy these days for people to make threats in the heat of the moment when they are frustrated and angry. But that does not excuse his actions and that behaviour needed to be challenged.
I think you got the approach spot on because it is also all to easy for retaliation to occur which then escalates the issue - sometimes to the point where lives can be ruined. By bringing the police in at the start you have made it clear that you will not accept his bullying and threatening behaviour; it has also allowed the police to view the threats from one side only rather than a 'he said, I said' standpoint.
He has been given a clear warning by you and the police that his actions are unacceptable and will not be tolerated and only a fool of epic proportions would take any further action - thus leaving you and your leaflet poster able to continue to seek work free from threats of violence.
I think this is a lesson for everyone on how a situation should be handled.
Couldn't be more pleased for you ;)
Cheers, Tom
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Great result mate. There's a knuckle dragging mong about to rock up on the Isle of White soon. He used to work over here, but is moving there soon. I had trouble with the guy years ago, so I expect he'll kick off when he gets there. Anyone on I.O.W. enjoy the trip ;D ;D Does gardening too, so should be enough guys to upset.
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To all the doubters ppppppllllllllvggggghhhh
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pardon?
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To all the doubters ppppppllllllllvggggghhhh
Whether or not the police took it seriously, my initial statement that "there is more crime in Merseyside than Cornwall" is still true.
Good result btw Richard, would love to see his written apology though I guess you won't be willing to upload it! ;D
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Nice one Chris.
I am sure you wont here anything from him again :)
love this bit though
apparently the owner is unhappy with what is happening in the area with the number of WCs operating here nowadays and was very frustrated.
Yeah that is just tuff!! its getting like that everywhere now nothing can be done so he is better of getting used to it than crying over it.
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I liked the bit about him being upset at people knocking on the doors of his customers. The only way they could avoid that is for him to supply them with a list!!!
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The knuckle dragger I had here Ian, actually gave me a list of his custies!!! ;D All 38 of them he had in the area I was knocking.!! It was either that, or paint a big red cross on their doors ::)roll
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Good to hear you got it sorted mate. And as said before its a good lesson on how things should be handled!
Regards
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To all the doubters ppppppllllllllvggggghhhh
Was that aimed at the bare knuckled, tattooed, prostitute murdering, lorry driving lesbian?
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You get death threats all the time for being a mong don't ya Bateman? ;D
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I dooz.
:P
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It all started when you came out didn't it?
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Nothing new to report.
I've had 3 calls from police officers (all different) this week telling me they are involved and they'll follow it up and report back to me. Latest was yesterday morning. Still nothing done so far as I can tell. The last one asked me if I knew his name or contact details, I gave these on the first day I reported it, and again when I gave my statement, so not exactly reassuring! I'll give them a call on Monday and make a complaint if there's no progress
told you northing would happen ;D
You're a real help aren't you? ::)roll
And wrong.
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Nothing new to report.
I've had 3 calls from police officers (all different) this week telling me they are involved and they'll follow it up and report back to me. Latest was yesterday morning. Still nothing done so far as I can tell. The last one asked me if I knew his name or contact details, I gave these on the first day I reported it, and again when I gave my statement, so not exactly reassuring! I'll give them a call on Monday and make a complaint if there's no progress
told you northing would happen ;D
You're a real help aren't you? ::)roll
And wrong.
at least she is consistent
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Nothing new to report.
I've had 3 calls from police officers (all different) this week telling me they are involved and they'll follow it up and report back to me. Latest was yesterday morning. Still nothing done so far as I can tell. The last one asked me if I knew his name or contact details, I gave these on the first day I reported it, and again when I gave my statement, so not exactly reassuring! I'll give them a call on Monday and make a complaint if there's no progress
told you northing would happen ;D
You're a real help aren't you? ::)roll
And wrong.
at least she is consistent
;D hahaaa
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To all the doubters ppppppllllllllvggggghhhh
Was that aimed at the bare knuckled, tattooed, prostitute murdering, lorry driving lesbian?
If she hears that she'll batter you! ;D
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Great result mate. There's a knuckle dragging mong about to rock up on the Isle of White soon. He used to work over here, but is moving there soon. I had trouble with the guy years ago, so I expect he'll kick off when he gets there. Anyone on I.O.W. enjoy the trip ;D ;D Does gardening too, so should be enough guys to upset.
looks like some fun coming this way lol
Thing is
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To all the doubters ppppppllllllllvggggghhhh
Was that aimed at the bare knuckled, tattooed, prostitute murdering, lorry driving lesbian?
If she hears that she'll batter you! ;D
I like a bit of S & M ;0)
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Yeah and you like cottaging too ;)
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Ill see you down there later, could you wash this time though please ;D