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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Michael Peterson on July 07, 2013, 08:48:49 pm

Title: advantages of a helper
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 07, 2013, 08:48:49 pm
i have enough water and have enough work

can some one please bullet point the advantages of having a second man in the van, i have a backpack and a two man system with plenty of water and plenty of barrels.

advantages like how much extra should a second man add in a day etc thanks
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: supernova77 on July 07, 2013, 08:51:30 pm
In my experience...

I wouldn't do it again.

I'm going to get a 2nd van on the road at some point and get them working out of that.

Andy
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: robertphil on July 07, 2013, 09:05:02 pm
a helper will  increase the workload done by a third. the real advantage is 1- you will feel better physically

 2- it will force you to up your game now somebody is relying on you for their livelihood ,theres no going back to casual days off 
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 07, 2013, 09:39:53 pm
thanks robert, i was hoping as much
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: Archer on July 07, 2013, 10:27:34 pm
Michael,

There are advantages and disadvantages, but a very good advantage that is normally over looked, is if you where ill for a lengthy period, you would have a lot of worry taken away from you, knowing the work was getting done, speaking from experience.

Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2013, 04:30:43 pm
Michael,

There are advantages and disadvantages, but a very good advantage that is normally over looked, is if you where ill for a lengthy period, you would have a lot of worry taken away from you, knowing the work was getting done, speaking from experience.



Good point
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: g.brookes on July 08, 2013, 06:57:38 pm
and once you get someone yo can trust, to an extent, you can go on lots of lovely holidays and still be earning a bit of money
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 08, 2013, 07:16:33 pm
the lad lasted 2 hours slowed me right down and then dissapeared i got a text message saying he was ill, obviously sacked , sod this im staying as a 1 man band less stress
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: robertphil on July 08, 2013, 07:39:43 pm
find another one.   dont give up at the first hurdle
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: g.brookes on July 09, 2013, 03:38:03 pm
Im very close to employing now and i read all these employing posts with interest.  I think its just as important to view your abailties as an employer, and it is to look at the skills of your employee.
I think quite often (just my opinion) that a lot of the times these bad experiences are down to bad interview technique, bad training, bad recruitment in general.  I think you really have to look at yourself when advertising for a job.  Think to yourself, what sort of job am i offering?  How can i make them care about the job? How can I keep the employee interested, engaged.
Just having the attitude of 'oh they are lucky to have a job' is not enough if you want competent, loyal staff.
Like i say, i dont employ anyone yet, but this is the way i see it
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: formb on July 09, 2013, 03:59:10 pm
Quote from: g.brookes
Im very close to employing now and i read all these employing posts with interest.  I think its just as important to view your abailties as an employer, and it is to look at the skills of your employee.
I think quite often (just my opinion) that a lot of the times these bad experiences are down to bad interview technique, bad training, bad recruitment in general.  I think you really have to look at yourself when advertising for a job.  Think to yourself, what sort of job am i offering?  How can i make them care about the job? How can I keep the employee interested, engaged.
Just having the attitude of 'oh they are lucky to have a job' is not enough if you want competent, loyal staff.
Like i say, i dont employ anyone yet, but this is the way i see it

^^ SENSIBLE POST ALERT!
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 09, 2013, 04:05:10 pm
i totally agree with that great post, that i why i have decided to just purify my round to great work, doing as little work as possible while maintaining maximum profits, all off my own back employing is not at all for me i dont think
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: AuRavelling79 on July 09, 2013, 04:27:55 pm
g. brookes's is post is very good.

In my experience you get one and three-quarters work done by two men.

To clarify:

If 1 does £200 then two will do £350.
Title: Re: advantages of a helper
Post by: Michael Peterson on July 09, 2013, 04:43:54 pm
but not if say one can do 400 and use nearly all 650 litrs, becasue you would run out of wate r and staff need breaks etc