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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: home6442 on June 28, 2013, 09:54:52 pm

Title: Where do they come from.
Post by: home6442 on June 28, 2013, 09:54:52 pm
There is a CLX22 for sale on Fleebay without brush.
So far its had 22 bids and is at £155+ postage £12.50 with 12 hours to go.
New from Gardiners £113 + vat with brush and free postage.
Surely somebody that stupid wouldn't have the intelligence to know what a window
even looked like.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Geoff on June 28, 2013, 09:59:32 pm
Can't see it on the 'bay...
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: home6442 on June 28, 2013, 10:05:14 pm
Its listed as a Brand new still wrapped Gardiner clx22 pole
Don't know how to put the link on here.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Gray1 on June 28, 2013, 10:07:31 pm
Just seen it John.  Auction fever!  they think that they are getting a bargain 'caus they bought it on the bay.
 :D
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: st teath windows on June 28, 2013, 10:08:42 pm
271227298496  type this number into ebay search
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: DaveG on June 28, 2013, 10:10:52 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271227298496?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D271227298496%26_rdc%3D1
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: G Griffin on June 28, 2013, 10:12:02 pm
It's obvious, innit?
It's lighter without the brush  ::)roll.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: gavinb on June 28, 2013, 10:12:38 pm
Waaaaaaaa fools and there money are easily parted .
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: st teath windows on June 28, 2013, 10:14:51 pm
The peoples identity has been hidden on the bidding, anything could be happening with the bidding there.Apart from the fact that we could all get it cheaper from gardiners , i would,nt  bid on anything that has hidden identity
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on June 28, 2013, 10:16:01 pm
John, they are the same type as I have mentioned in the 'magic wand' topic!
Some people DO NOT have a clue about window cleaning, how to clean windows or running there own business.
I wonder how they manage to breath some times! ;D  
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: rosskesava on June 28, 2013, 11:44:36 pm
John, they are the same type as I have mentioned in the 'magic wand' topic!
Some people DO NOT have a clue about window cleaning, how to clean windows or running there own business.
I wonder how they manage to breath some times! ;D  

Have you ever considered selling autographed pictures of yourself as a sideline?
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: JamesAJF on June 29, 2013, 03:16:42 am
fools lol  ::)roll
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Geoff on June 29, 2013, 06:41:59 am
That's unbelievable.

What a ripoff that seller is.  Guess he's a windy too.

Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: dave f on June 29, 2013, 06:56:00 am
why is he a rip off ???its the daft twats bidding thick as feck
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Geoff on June 29, 2013, 07:01:48 am
Stand corrected - it's the idiots bidding that should know better.  But I doubt he's letting them know!

I notice that from around April 2007 he started listing everything as private, so you can't see what else w/c he might have sold at crackers prices.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on June 29, 2013, 07:08:51 am
There is a CLX22 for sale on Fleebay without brush.
So far its had 22 bids and is at £155+ postage £12.50 with 12 hours to go.
New from Gardiners £113 + vat with brush and free postage.
Surely somebody that stupid wouldn't have the intelligence to know what a window
even looked like.


TRue john... Surley somebody that stipid can't even turn a pc on let alone figure out hoe to start an ebay account!?  ::)roll
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on June 29, 2013, 07:10:12 am
The peoples identity has been hidden on the bidding, anything could be happening with the bidding there.Apart from the fact that we could all get it cheaper from gardiners , i would,nt  bid on anything that has hidden identity

Good point... He's getting his friends to bid on things, at best!
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 29, 2013, 07:41:35 am
The peoples identity has been hidden on the bidding, anything could be happening with the bidding there.Apart from the fact that we could all get it cheaper from gardiners , i would,nt  bid on anything that has hidden identity

Good point... He's getting his friends to bid on things, at best!

Why would he do that?  If his firends won, he'd be paying seller's fees on goods that he hadn't sold.

No, he's just relying on idiots thinking they are getting a bargain.

Vin
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: st teath windows on June 29, 2013, 08:05:44 am
If you look on advance search ,you will find that he sold an identical pole on the 15th june for £155.00. Definately shill bidding .I wonder if gardiners have sold 2 identical poles to same customer? It wont happen that often i bet.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: home6442 on June 29, 2013, 08:13:20 am
If you look on advance search ,you will find that he sold an identical pole on the 15th june for £155.00. Definately shill bidding .I wonder if gardiners have sold 2 identical poles to same customer? It wont happen that often i bet.

Why not they made a profit on the last one why not get another and do the same.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: st teath windows on June 29, 2013, 08:39:59 am
I think you are being a bit niave there! It wasnt guaranteed to make a profit? Also how come this one again doesnt have a brush supplied, seeing as they come supplied with them?I will bet it is the same pole being offered
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: st teath windows on June 29, 2013, 08:41:48 am
£187 + postage???????????? I bet he puts another one up for sale as soon as this one ends
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: home6442 on June 29, 2013, 09:10:59 am
I think you are being a bit niave there! It wasnt guaranteed to make a profit? Also how come this one again doesnt have a brush supplied, seeing as they come supplied with them?I will bet it is the same pole being offered


O.k. so the first one sells for £155 what about the guys who lost out The £150 £145 £140 bids and so on
I think you can be sure a second pole wont make a lose.
Why then did the first pole not have a brush as it came with it.
Answer they are going to sell the brushes a later date and make even more profit.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 29, 2013, 09:15:17 am
If you look on advance search ,you will find that he sold an identical pole on the 15th june for £155.00. Definately shill bidding .I wonder if gardiners have sold 2 identical poles to same customer? It wont happen that often i bet.

It's all very fine saying there's shill bidding going on but at the end of the auction there still has to be a mug who is not one of the shills who buys it.  And the seller would have to be able accurately to judge what the mug's genuine top bid might be.  I know there is a trick or two around to find someone's top bid, however, the mug/end buyer still has to be bidding in the right region.

If the top bid is from a shill, he's just paying 10% of the top bid each time it doesn't sell to a real person.

Vin
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: AuRavelling79 on June 29, 2013, 09:29:26 am
187.50 + 12.50 postage!

Something don't seem roight to me.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: st teath windows on June 29, 2013, 09:31:06 am
so after selling his first one on june 15th , he then goes and orders and recieves another one to put up for auction a week later? Gardiners are out of stock at the moment and i bet there where out of stock last week as well.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: home6442 on June 29, 2013, 09:33:10 am
Just hope it doesn't give Alex any new ideas regarding his prices. :o ;D
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: home6442 on June 29, 2013, 09:36:36 am
so after selling his first one on june 15th , he then goes and orders and recieves another one to put up for auction a week later? Gardiners are out of stock at the moment and i bet there where out of stock last week as well.


How do you know it isn't Gardiners  ;D
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: st teath windows on June 29, 2013, 09:38:02 am
So now he has sold 2 poles within 2 weeks at £155 and £187  both without brushes and goosenecks which come as standard. these poles retail at £132 inc delivery . One mug buying at the price maybe, but 2 people ? unless it is the same person and he has bought them both  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Ian Lancaster on June 29, 2013, 09:44:38 am
so after selling his first one on june 15th , he then goes and orders and recieves another one to put up for auction a week later? Gardiners are out of stock at the moment and i bet there where out of stock last week as well.

And there you have it.  Gardiners are out of stock, and if someone wants this particular pole in a hurry they may be prepared to pay over the odds.  Our friend here has anticipated a demand and stockpiled against the time when the usual supply dries up.  Now he can capitalise on his forethought and turn a good profit - in financial circles it's called dealing in "futures" - perfectly legal and respectable business practice.

He tells his 'customers' they are Gardiners poles, how hard is it for someone to look them up and find out the actual retail price?

CAVEAT EMPTOR

Ps - it isn't me ;D
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 29, 2013, 10:11:36 am
There are periodic threads on this subject, always expressing amazement.

About ten years ago I flirted with selling digital cameras on ebay.  I couldn't believe the prices I was seeing them going for.  So, I sold seven or eight of them.  Where did I source?  Amazon.  How hard would it have been for the ebayers to look on Amazon?  But they didn't.

Net, after all the costs involved, on cameras around the £100 mark, I typically made £15.  If I could have been bothered there was a business there to be had.  I chose not to.

People assume they are getting a bargain on ebay and seem not to bother checking elsewhere.  More fool them.  There's nothing sinister in it, just the fact that there really does seem to be one born every minute.

Vin
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Geoff on June 29, 2013, 10:18:28 am
60 million +/- in the uk, so some have to be born every minute.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Geoff on June 29, 2013, 10:20:57 am
Here's the seller's website:



http://www.aspcleaning.co.uk/index.htm (http://www.aspcleaning.co.uk/index.htm)
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: home6442 on June 29, 2013, 10:23:38 am
I have seen many one and two year old poles sell on ebay for a few pounds less than they
cost new some even selling above retail.
Its a good way to upgrade your pole to a new one every year at a minimum cost.
Worth thinking about.
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: Perfect Windows on June 29, 2013, 11:25:32 am
I have seen many one and two year old poles sell on ebay for a few pounds less than they
cost new some even selling above retail.
Its a good way to upgrade your pole to a new one every year at a minimum cost.
Worth thinking about.


Shhhh
Title: Re: Where do they come from.
Post by: EandM on June 29, 2013, 04:47:50 pm
£200 with postage ! Amazing that the bidders have the intelligence to find the item on ebay but not to look up the manufacturer....