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Title: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 03:06:26 pm
customer wanted this cleaning, so got in contact with a local supplier of cleaning chemicals and i've got a chemical to try out!

as you can see the roof is covered in Lichen, and normaly a pain in the back side to get off!

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1372427972_1.jpg)


but with the just this that im trying out made the job so easy!

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1372428291_IMG_00000157.jpg)


video can be seen here:- http://youtu.be/E_1knJZyynY
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on June 28, 2013, 03:14:14 pm
What's the stuff called ?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: PoleKing on June 28, 2013, 03:22:30 pm
Nice!
Any finished pics Rich?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 03:25:08 pm
Nice!
Any finished pics Rich?

yes there is, the plastic roof is 20+ years old so there is a lot of discolouring from the sun, will post one
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: wpclean on June 28, 2013, 03:25:49 pm
Magica !
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 03:26:00 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1372429546_IMG_00000159.jpg)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 03:26:17 pm
Magica !

nope not even that! lol
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 03:27:10 pm
What's the stuff called ?

still trying it out before i reccommend it to anyone else to use.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 03:31:12 pm
will last a long time,

it comes in 5lt and you only need 100ml per 5lts of water!

so this could make upto 250lts of cleaning fluid!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: dd on June 28, 2013, 04:04:43 pm
How is your Facelift pole holding up? Tempted to try one next time around.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 04:28:23 pm
How is your Facelift pole holding up? Tempted to try one next time around.

yer still going well, have extention poles for it now so it goes upto 32ft now instead of 26ft! lol
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dave Willis on June 28, 2013, 05:56:48 pm
Are you going to mix it with water and sell it on ebay in tiny bottles for a huge profit? ......... some do.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 05:59:07 pm
Are you going to mix it with water and sell it on ebay in tiny bottles for a huge profit? ......... some do.

no not going to do that, will be selling the full 5lts if i can get the right price from the supplier!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: chris scott on June 28, 2013, 06:04:57 pm
Quats
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 06:16:22 pm
Quats

??
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: dd on June 28, 2013, 07:51:36 pm
How is your Facelift pole holding up? Tempted to try one next time around.

yer still going well, have extention poles for it now so it goes upto 32ft now instead of 26ft! lol
How are the clamps? Do they need regular adjusting?

Thanks, dd
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 08:08:21 pm
How is your Facelift pole holding up? Tempted to try one next time around.

yer still going well, have extention poles for it now so it goes upto 32ft now instead of 26ft! lol
How are the clamps? Do they need regular adjusting?

Thanks, dd

the clamps are still going strong and still nice and smooth.
they dont need regular adjusting, maybe the odd one now and again,
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: colin purewater on June 28, 2013, 08:20:51 pm
You could get them results with tap water
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Frankybadboy on June 28, 2013, 08:33:43 pm
Are you going to mix it with water and sell it on ebay in tiny bottles for a huge profit? ......... some do.

no not going to do that, will be selling the full 5lts if i can get the right price from the supplier!
will you be selling it with the other ego stuff you are going to sell ;)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 08:42:56 pm
Are you going to mix it with water and sell it on ebay in tiny bottles for a huge profit? ......... some do.

no not going to do that, will be selling the full 5lts if i can get the right price from the supplier!
will you be selling it with the other ego stuff you are going to sell ;)

ego stuff? if you mean the shop thats still being sorted out,

i'll be sorting this out myself! lol i know it will be done then! lol
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: rosskesava on June 28, 2013, 10:26:35 pm
When needed, I use a stuff from my local cleaning supplies shop that does the same.

It goes under the unlikely name of 'lichen and mold remover'.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 28, 2013, 10:30:03 pm
When needed, I use a stuff from my local cleaning supplies shop that does the same.

It goes under the unlikely name of 'lichen and mold remover'.

Strange name to call it! Lol

Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: davids3511 on June 28, 2013, 11:02:27 pm
Anybody ever used the hypo the power washing guys swear by?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: rosskesava on June 29, 2013, 01:14:44 am
Anybody ever used the hypo the power washing guys swear by?

I havn't. No need to. I use a stuff called 'lichen and mold remover'. Seems to do the job fine with just a spray and wfp.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: mick hay on June 29, 2013, 07:18:44 am
You could get them results with tap water

this is what i keep on telling people, but no one believes me!!!!!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 08:16:33 am
You could get them results with tap water

You could, but it will be a lot of hard work and a lot of time! Lichen doesn't come off that easily with just tap water!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: davids3511 on June 29, 2013, 08:29:00 am
You could get them results with tap water

You could, but it will be a lot of hard work and a lot of time! Lichen doesn't come off that easily with just tap water!
Even small amounts of Lichen takes time. Lots would be a nightmare.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 08:35:10 am
You could get them results with tap water

You could, but it will be a lot of hard work and a lot of time! Lichen doesn't come off that easily with just tap water!
Even small amounts of Lichen takes time. Lots would be a nightmare.

yer thats true, in total that job was 1 1/2 hours work, from turning up, seting up, doing job and packing up.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: tlwcs on June 29, 2013, 12:15:22 pm
What's the stuff called ?

still trying it out before i reccommend it to anyone else to use.

So your not going to tell anyone what it is, your going to try and get it for the right price and sell it on yourself, have I got it right?
Tony
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 12:28:03 pm
What's the stuff called ?

still trying it out before i reccommend it to anyone else to use.

So your not going to tell anyone what it is, your going to try and get it for the right price and sell it on yourself, have I got it right?
Tony

yes and no, i will tell what it is, then i will be stocking it to sell. I already get a small discount to what anyone else can buy it for in the shops already, but if i can get a better price then I will be selling it.

as this hasnt been used for this kind of work im not putting my name to it untill i know its fine. last think i want is to tell someone to use it, it damages some UPVC on a customers house thne that person has to pay out for it to be replaced, then it looks bad on me casue i told them to use it!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 29, 2013, 02:12:57 pm
Very best thing for lichen removal on a polycarbonate roof is to wet it with water and then use a 12 inch squeegee with the rubber removed would have cleared that roof in under 10 minutes then rinse off

No chems needed for that

Darran
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 02:50:31 pm
Very best thing for lichen removal on a polycarbonate roof is to wet it with water and then use a 12 inch squeegee with the rubber removed would have cleared that roof in under 10 minutes then rinse off

No chefs needed for that

Darran

U must be thinking of something else, not of that shifted with our hot water and brushes! Lichen don't come off that easily.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 02:52:55 pm
Plus there is more chance of you doing damage to the plastic roof scraping it like that,
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 29, 2013, 02:56:56 pm
Sorry to disagree RC but yes it's comes straight off and no it does not damage the poly carb as a squeegee blade holder has no sharp edges

Maybe it's safer than using " unknown chemicals " onto the plastic without testing first?

Darran
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 03:40:19 pm
Sorry to disagree RC but yes it's comes straight off and no it does not damage the poly carb as a squeegee blade holder has no sharp edges

Maybe it's safer than using " unknown chemicals " onto the plastic without testing first?

Darran

ive never had any come off with just water without spending a long time and hard work getting them off. plus you dont kill the spors or the roots off with just water either so not giving the customer as good as a job.
the scraper might not have any sharp edges but any grit on the roof that you are scraping at can damage the roof.

plus this isnt a unknown chemical at all, its from a leading cleaning chemical maker, that started in 1968 and there uk factory cover 16 achres, plus several over the world.

this chemicals main use is floors, walls, kitchens and food plant machinery.

Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: wightsurf on June 29, 2013, 04:35:21 pm
Bleach  ;D
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 04:36:53 pm
Bleach  ;D

lol now that would do damage to the plastic and rubber! lol
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Robin Ray on June 29, 2013, 05:40:51 pm
chemspec
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 05:51:49 pm
chemspec

no not them, 
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: robbo333 on June 29, 2013, 05:53:25 pm
...bored now!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 05:54:29 pm
...bored now!

 ;D

Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 29, 2013, 05:59:29 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 06:14:42 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Robin Ray on June 29, 2013, 07:48:52 pm
http://www.chemspecworld.com/help/about.asp (http://www.chemspecworld.com/help/about.asp)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dave Willis on June 29, 2013, 07:50:55 pm
I'm sure I've read this post all before  ::)roll

It's identical to the magica one go man - boshravie. The only difference was he rebranded the stuff he was selling.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 29, 2013, 07:56:18 pm
I'm sure I've read this post all before  ::)roll

It's identical to the magica one go man - boshravie. The only difference was he rebranded the stuff he was selling.

Well said that man
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 08:04:57 pm
http://www.chemspecworld.com/help/about.asp (http://www.chemspecworld.com/help/about.asp)

still not chemspec
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 08:07:54 pm
I'm sure I've read this post all before  ::)roll

It's identical to the magica one go man - boshravie. The only difference was he rebranded the stuff he was selling.

the diffrence is that im not rebranding it or anything as technically it is illegal to do that!

this will be the same concentrated stuff that you can get from any other place that sells it on the net etc!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 29, 2013, 08:14:11 pm
So in the spirit of the forum just pass on the good news and point out where people can buy it .

Darran
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dani J on June 29, 2013, 08:28:22 pm
Does it remove lichen from patio tiles or bricks ?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dave Willis on June 29, 2013, 08:42:01 pm
Evening Bosh!  ;D
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 29, 2013, 08:44:16 pm
Evening Bosh!  ;D

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dani J on June 29, 2013, 08:47:58 pm
Yeh i had chat with him today, he is a bit jealous of this guy bringing his own chemical  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

There is going to be heavy competition  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: robbo333 on June 29, 2013, 08:48:41 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 08:49:59 pm
Does it remove lichen from patio tiles or bricks ?

no idea not tried it, but spilt some neat stuff on the floor and killed some weeds! lol
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 08:51:31 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 29, 2013, 08:57:18 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!

Sounds good - kills the weeds, flowers, fish in the pond, pets

Great customer care  ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dani J on June 29, 2013, 08:57:34 pm
Does it remove lichen from patio tiles or bricks ?

no idea not tried it, but spilt some on the floor and killed some weeds! lol

I know CAUSTIC SODA  ;)
so why you don't tell us R.C. ?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: robbo333 on June 29, 2013, 09:03:36 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!


Fair comment, but are you really qualified to guarantee that it won't cause a problem on plastic or glass conservatory roofs? You can't just spray some on and clean it and say it "looks ok" half an hour later! These companies spend a lot of money testing these products under strict guidelines making sure there are no come backs. (I do know) If it's a mate saying "give it a go" then fair enough, you may take a chance. You actually want to sell it and give a recommendation as to its quality then you need to be qualified. Why don't you just do all your testing and then promote it on the forum as a qualified product and just sell it?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 09:09:37 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!

Sounds good - kills the weeds, flowers, fish in the pond, pets

Great customer care  ;D

Darran

fish and pets are fine will be fine!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 09:18:26 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself.  

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!


Fair comment, but are you really qualified to guarantee that it won't cause a problem on plastic or glass conservatory roofs? You can't just spray some on and clean it and say it "looks ok" half an hour later! These companies spend a lot of money testing these products under strict guidelines making sure there are no come backs. (I do know) If it's a mate saying "give it a go" then fair enough, you may take a chance. You actually want to sell it and give a recommendation as to its quality then you need to be qualified. Why don't you just do all your testing and then promote it on the forum as a qualified product and just sell it?


its uses are walls, floors, in kitchens on all surfaces and on food plant machinery.  the place that will be supplying this to me has one more thats in the same range but stronger, that is used in the weetabix factory on all there machinery!

you dont need to be quilified to sell this at all.

this is the 3rd one i have tried in the range and the others didnt touch lichen at the dilution rates that is stated on the product. they cleaned everything else and brought the upvc up well. but with this one at the dilutions that is says work well and thats what im testing mainly.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 09:21:05 pm
Does it remove lichen from patio tiles or bricks ?

no idea not tried it, but spilt some on the floor and killed some weeds! lol

I know CAUSTIC SODA  ;)
so why you don't tell us R.C. ?

dam you guessed it! lol

all in good time! lol
its from a company called  SELDEN
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: robbo333 on June 29, 2013, 09:21:19 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!


Fair comment, but are you really qualified to guarantee that it won't cause a problem on plastic or glass conservatory roofs? You can't just spray some on and clean it and say it "looks ok" half an hour later! These companies spend a lot of money testing these products under strict guidelines making sure there are no come backs. (I do know) If it's a mate saying "give it a go" then fair enough, you may take a chance. You actually want to sell it and give a recommendation as to its quality then you need to be qualified. Why don't you just do all your testing and then promote it on the forum as a qualified product and just sell it?


it is uses are walls, floors, in kitchens on all aurfaces and on food plant machinery.  the place that will be supplying this to me has one more thats in the same range but stronger that is used in the weetabix factory on all there machinery!

you dont need to be quilified to sell this at all.

this is the 3rd one i have tried in the range and the others didnt touch lichen at the dilution rates that is stated on the product. they cleaned everything else and brought the upvc up well. but with this one at the dilutions that is says work well and thats what im testing mainly.


Sorry, but I read your reply twice to try and make sense of it. I rest my case!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 09:23:36 pm
So your agenda is to promote a chemical which by your posts indicate may effect the plastic because you won't name it ?

Or more cynically wish to sell it on at a profit ? Which isn't a problem either

Lichen is always hard to remove with or without chemicals by only using a brush.
I found that a nice piece of planed wood much better that all that scrubbing used with running water then I had a car port 40 foot by 15 foot ( totally covered in lichen) so I converted the end of my water fed pole to take a squeegee and hey pesto job. Done in under 30 mins

As for quality of service once the roof is clean and the lichen is removed I have done what the customer has paid for a clean roof won't have any spores on it - they usually come from nearby trees or off lichen still growing on roof tiles

Just offering my experiences on the subject

Darran

agenda is to promote the chemical, i never reccomend anything untill i have tried it myself and made sure myself that it dont cause damage. which it should do as they use it on food plant machinery that has metal, plastics and rubber maybe glass depending on the machine i guess.

any salesman can tell you what you want to hear, but me like i like try it first and see for myself. 

yes i am hoping to supply it to. hence why i really want to give it a good testing.


with this the lichen was easy to remove, sprayed it on, waited and could rub off all of it with finger without much pressure, witch also kills any roots that are left behind within any scraches, or rubber seals, screw etc.



So you're a a qualified chemist and fully licened to test this product? F**ck S**e.


wtf????

the chemical has all ready been through all that as its been for sale for years! lol
im trying it out on how well it cleans the roofs etc!


Fair comment, but are you really qualified to guarantee that it won't cause a problem on plastic or glass conservatory roofs? You can't just spray some on and clean it and say it "looks ok" half an hour later! These companies spend a lot of money testing these products under strict guidelines making sure there are no come backs. (I do know) If it's a mate saying "give it a go" then fair enough, you may take a chance. You actually want to sell it and give a recommendation as to its quality then you need to be qualified. Why don't you just do all your testing and then promote it on the forum as a qualified product and just sell it?


its uses are walls, floors, in kitchens on all surfaces and on food plant machinery.  the place that will be supplying this to me has one more thats in the same range but stronger, that is used in the weetabix factory on all there machinery!

you dont need to be quilified to sell this at all.

this is the 3rd one i have tried in the range and the others didnt touch lichen at the dilution rates that is stated on the product. they cleaned everything else and brought the upvc up well. but with this one at the dilutions that is says work well and thats what im testing mainly.


Sorry, but I read your reply twice to try and make sense of it. I rest my case!

what?? guess you cant read then! lol
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: robbo333 on June 29, 2013, 09:36:50 pm
I guess it is getting late  ;D
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: ben M on June 29, 2013, 09:39:35 pm
S20?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 09:41:53 pm
I guess it is getting late  ;D

that too! still working now, looking after my daughter and trying to get something to eat! plus chatting on here and another forum! lol

and they say us blokes cant multi task! lol
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 09:44:08 pm
S20?

no not that stuff, think that might eat through a plastic roof by guessing at what its name is!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: ben M on June 29, 2013, 09:48:29 pm
selosol then  ;)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: robbo333 on June 29, 2013, 09:56:36 pm
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: ben M on June 29, 2013, 09:59:13 pm
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
he is not Dani J (bosh)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 10:26:51 pm
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.

I'm not re-branding it as that's illegal unless you through loads of stuff.
I'm not changing it in anyway or adding anything to it. It comes to me in a sealed 5lt container and that's how it will go out,

All I'm doing is buying it trade from them and selling it on as a retailer.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dani J on June 29, 2013, 10:28:04 pm
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
he is not Dani J (bosh)

Dani J (bosh) what you on about ? I know him but i am defiantly not him, i wish i was him though  :)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 29, 2013, 10:29:11 pm
selosol then  ;)

That was one i did get told to try first by the supplier, but it didn't do as good job, but it did get rid of the normal green algee and brought the upvc up well
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dan crowther on June 29, 2013, 11:40:42 pm
I think what you are trying to is good and your intentions are good but I think it's a mistake to come on ciu (you could get away with it on other forums maybe) and go about it the way you are. You came up with the remote controller idea yourself and although similar to other controllers you put it together yourself and marketed it as such...your vids and marketing were good. When it comes to products already on the market such as cleaning solution the usual thing would be to share your find so it can benefit all on the forum. The bosh magica 1 go fiasco is still fresh in people's memories so anything other than sharing a find and your onto a hiding to nothing. It would at least have been better for you to have done all your 'testing' before mentioning it if you weren't going to just do it out of helpfulness. When you talk about a product that can significantly improve our cleaning and reduce the effort taken then people naturally want to know straight away...especially when it comes to conny roof cleaning! Your withholding the info does you no favours with ciu members especially as you want to make money out of your find as a stockist/seller. When you have done your testing and decide to stock and sell can you really sell it cheaper than a local supplier when you factor in the postage? Maybe, I would doubt it though...another reason why when it comes to products already on the market it is best to share, to recommend, rather than the way you have gone about it. You are a top bloke and very helpful to others, this can be seen on the forums you are on...watch out you don't end up as Bosh did though!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: JSMC on June 30, 2013, 12:07:19 am
ubix?
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 30, 2013, 12:19:54 am
I think what you are trying to is good and your intentions are good but I think it's a mistake to come on ciu (you could get away with it on other forums maybe) and go about it the way you are. You came up with the remote controller idea yourself and although similar to other controllers you put it together yourself and marketed it as such...your vids and marketing were good. When it comes to products already on the market such as cleaning solution the usual thing would be to share your find so it can benefit all on the forum. The bosh magica 1 go fiasco is still fresh in people's memories so anything other than sharing a find and your onto a hiding to nothing. It would at least have been better for you to have done all your 'testing' before mentioning it if you weren't going to just do it out of helpfulness. When you talk about a product that can significantly improve our cleaning and reduce the effort taken then people naturally want to know straight away...especially when it comes to conny roof cleaning! Your withholding the info does you no favours with ciu members especially as you want to make money out of your find as a stockist/seller. When you have done your testing and decide to stock and sell can you really sell it cheaper than a local supplier when you factor in the postage? Maybe, I would doubt it though...another reason why when it comes to products already on the market it is best to share, to recommend, rather than the way you have gone about it. You are a top bloke and very helpful to others, this can be seen on the forums you are on...watch out you don't end up as Bosh did though!

thanks for that.
cost wise at the minute i can only find a few places thats selling it online, one place is just over £20 with postage and the other is just over £16.30 with postage. got to find out the exact price i can get if for, but i should be able to match or slightly beat the lowest price, but people might be able to pick it up from either me or the might have a supplier in there town then it would only be around £10 if not a little less.

not heard the story behind bosh, so dont know what happend there!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 30, 2013, 12:20:43 am
ubix?

no not ubix.

this is from a company called selden.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Barryy on June 30, 2013, 02:30:31 am
Would it be this?
http://www.arrowchem.com/commercial-kitchens/cleaning-sanitising/s4-supermax-multi-purpose-catering-cleaner/
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: rycalshaw on June 30, 2013, 08:01:25 am
this thread is getting really boring now, if your not going to tell people what it is until testing complete why not put the post on when testing IS complete and stop wasting everybodys time..
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 30, 2013, 08:08:47 am
this thread is getting really boring now, if your not going to tell people what it is until testing complete why not put the post on when testing IS complete and stop wasting everybodys time..

not wasting anyones time or anything, just letting people know whats going on and whats coming.

hold on, just like gardniers and facelift did with there poles! lol think we had to wait a month or so to find out anything about them!

i find it funny that when its an individual person,  people get the right arse, but when its a big company that does the same thing, and dont even give previews like i have done no-one says a things!!!!
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: tlwcs on June 30, 2013, 08:34:40 am
this thread is getting really boring now, if your not going to tell people what it is until testing complete why not put the post on when testing IS complete and stop wasting everybodys time..

not wasting anyones time or anything, just letting people know whats going on and whats coming.

hold on, just like gardniers and facelift did with there poles! lol think we had to wait a month or so to find out anything about them!

i find it funny that when its an individual person,  people get the right arse, but when its a big company that does the same thing, and dont even give previews like i have done no-one says a things!!!!


Morning RC. Up til the last bit of this comment I thought you had defended your corner and kept your cool well. But really that comparison, really?
You may have found a product that may save us some effort/time but I would lock the thread untill your happy to recommend or retail it.
Don't lose your wragg or make daft comparisons as it make you look foolish
Tony
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 30, 2013, 08:35:50 am
Difference with gardiners and facelift is they are developing a product
Things he buys off the shelf like connectors reels etc.. Are just put straight on the web site

If you have a product that does a great job - that's fab
If you want to sell it - that's fine
If you need to test it - do so but one look at the tech specs should be enough to tell you if its safe on polycarbonate

But stop messing around like a little child with guessing games - grow up be an adult and offer up for sale complete with product name

Darran
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 30, 2013, 08:43:35 am
this thread is getting really boring now, if your not going to tell people what it is until testing complete why not put the post on when testing IS complete and stop wasting everybodys time..

not wasting anyones time or anything, just letting people know whats going on and whats coming.

hold on, just like gardniers and facelift did with there poles! lol think we had to wait a month or so to find out anything about them!

i find it funny that when its an individual person,  people get the right arse, but when its a big company that does the same thing, and dont even give previews like i have done no-one says a things!!!!


Morning RC. Up til the last bit of this comment I thought you had defended your corner and kept your cool well. But really that comparison, really?
You may have found a product that may save us some effort/time but I would lock the thread untill your happy to recommend or retail it.
Don't lose your wragg or make daft comparisons as it make you look foolish
Tony


hey tony, not losing my wragg or anything, just saying an observation i have notice.
on the other places that i have talked about this the feedback has been great and not a bad thing has been said like this is boring just tell us etc, just on this forum people have said this.
i just find is strange really.
to me if someone else has posted this personally i would say great keep us upto date, look forward to hearing more, etc,
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 30, 2013, 08:45:00 am
Difference with gardiners and facelift is they are developing a product
Things he buys off the shelf like connectors reels etc.. Are just put straight on the web site

If you have a product that does a great job - that's fab
If you want to sell it - that's fine
If you need to test it - do so but one look at the tech specs should be enough to tell you if its safe on polycarbonate

But stop messing around like a little child with guessing games - grow up be an adult and offer up for sale complete with product name

Darran

to be fair im not the one thats made this into a guessing game, i havent told anyone to guess it, people have commented on here with there guess thats all.
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Smudger on June 30, 2013, 08:58:48 am
True but you were asked as early as the first reply what it was so why not answer the question?


No real need for the cloak and dagger stuff - either your posting to be helpful as the forum intended or like bosh creating a stir hoping to make money out of fellow members of the forum

If you had developed a product or an idea that's fair enough to keep details to yourself but a chemical readily available makes you look a bit of a twit To be honest

Darran
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 30, 2013, 09:11:32 am
True but you were asked as early as the first reply what it was so why not answer the question?


Darran


because i want to try it before i reccommend it and put my name to the recommendation. at the end of the day if i reccommend this without try it and something bad happend for some reason that word make me look worse than you say this topic is making me look.

i dont think anyone would reccommend a product without trying it out themselves,

like i said before i dont know what happend regarding bosh on here, but buy the sounds of it he was messing about watering the chemicals down to make the most money out of it, thats not what im hoping to do.
 
i hoping to get hold of it at a good price, then sell it on cheaper than some shops to save some money for window cleaners, because i dont have the overheads to pay for like shops etc do. i can afford just to make only a few quid out of each sale,

bit like i do with the controllers i also make, some people was selling them for £50 each, i sold them for around £30. my window cleaning is where i make my money.  this is just something extra
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: ben M on June 30, 2013, 09:44:19 am
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
he is not Dani J (bosh)

Dani J (bosh) what you on about ? I know him but i am defiantly not him, i wish i was him though  :)
your life must be very sad then  ;)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: ben M on June 30, 2013, 09:45:31 am
good luck Richard and keep us posted,well done mate  ;)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: R.C Property on June 30, 2013, 09:47:36 am
good luck Richard and keep us posted,well done mate  ;)

cheers, will do!  ;)
Title: Re: Trying something better than virosol for conservartory roofs!
Post by: Dani J on June 30, 2013, 03:37:11 pm
I think you're mad trying to re-brand an existing product. But fair play to you for trying. If you genuinely think it's good then I'm willing to try it. Mad not to. Put me down for your first order.
he is not Dani J (bosh)

Dani J (bosh) what you on about ? I know him but i am defiantly not him, i wish i was him though  :)
your life must be very sad then  ;)

Sad ?  ;D ;D far from it  ;)