Clean It Up
UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tickled Pink Cleaners on June 17, 2013, 09:49:42 am
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morning all, does anyone know of a good product i could use on shower doors to remove water marks. I have tried a limescale remover leaving it to soak then scraping off the watermarks with a blade. This approach seems to take ages with not much affect. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Love the company name! ;D
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Hydrochloric acid or Sulphamatic acid
Put it on with a not too abrasive sponge scourer, spread it evenly,
dont just squeeze it all over and let it run down everywhere it will look horrible.
LIGHTLY scourer it not to scratch the glass, leave 10 minutes LIGHTLY scourer it again....
etc....etc....you can feel when its descaled as it feels smoother each time you go over it.
rinse thoroughly.
Don't get any on aluminium frames or they will change colour
Wear rubber gloves & safety glasses
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I use Seldens toilet descaler, I put on with a sponge leave for around 10 mins then wash off generally this is all it takes, but have on the odd occasion had to go over it again.
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Aqua Mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute diluted. A bottle will last you months
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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Hydrochloric acid or Sulphamatic acid
Put it on with a not too abrasive sponge scourer, spread it evenly,
dont just squeeze it all over and let it run down everywhere it will look horrible.
LIGHTLY scourer it not to scratch the glass, leave 10 minutes LIGHTLY scourer it again....
etc....etc....you can feel when its descaled as it feels smoother each time you go over it.
rinse thoroughly.
Don't get any on aluminium frames or they will change colour
Wear rubber gloves & safety glasses
Why not get a flame thrower out as well and be done with it!!!
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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Hydrochloric acid or Sulphamatic acid
Put it on with a not too abrasive sponge scourer, spread it evenly,
dont just squeeze it all over and let it run down everywhere it will look horrible.
LIGHTLY scourer it not to scratch the glass, leave 10 minutes LIGHTLY scourer it again....
etc....etc....you can feel when its descaled as it feels smoother each time you go over it.
rinse thoroughly.
Don't get any on aluminium frames or they will change colour
Wear rubber gloves & safety glasses
Why not get a flame thrower out as well and be done with it!!!Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
I thought the scourer was a bit harsh - some people and their sarcasm ;)
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Just use your common sense, its a sponge scourer.
Try pressing lightly.
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On glass maybe but even with most moderate pressure it will damage acylic
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cheers for all the quick reply's and great advice. Will try the Seldens toilet descaler first before moving up to acid, gloves and glasses.
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Just use your common sense, its a sponge scourer.
Try pressing lightly.
The only common sense thing to say about Hydrochloric or Sulphamic acid is don't use it! Apart from the PPE required and the respiratory issues the facts are they will both more than likely damage metal and acrylic on contact and if you use them in a commercial situation and the Aircon picks the fumes up the fumes will also do damage.
Anyone who has been on our courses will remember the photographs of Hydrochloric Acid Damage done in a building.
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Hydrochloric acid or Sulphamatic acid
Put it on with a not too abrasive sponge scourer, spread it evenly,
dont just squeeze it all over and let it run down everywhere it will look horrible.
LIGHTLY scourer it not to scratch the glass, leave 10 minutes LIGHTLY scourer it again....
etc....etc....you can feel when its descaled as it feels smoother each time you go over it.
rinse thoroughly.
Don't get any on aluminium frames or they will change colour
Wear rubber gloves & safety glasses
Why not get a flame thrower out as well and be done with it!!!Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
I thought the scourer was a bit harsh - some people and their sarcasm ;)
Carl
Yes it was a little sarky but people also need to realise the dangers of using harsh acids and the guy asking for advice is a newbie! So now he has gone off to use Bog Cleaner and then a harsh acid if that doesn't work!!!
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Before everyone goes off on one i will not be using or would never use acid in a customers property.
As for using bog cleaner on shower doors we all have come across cleaning products that can be used for more than one purpose. Will take a look and see if it would work, if not will keep searching and will let you know when i have found a proper solution.
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Both of these acids are intended for descaling and also come as descaling products if you check.
I'm not talking about industrial acid from a barrel.
Any of these products can be bought from any cleaning supplies
Didn't realise he has to use a product that only you can sell to him.
Toilet cleaner is also an acid.
The gloves and safety glasses should be worn if using any kind of chemicals.
they do on the sites that I work on anyway.
Don't you teach the importance of PPE on your courses?
Why do people feel it necessary to be sarcastic and promote their own products
with every post they put on here?
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The Op asks a question and gets various answers some of which maybe right and some maybe wrong but each of these maybe open to interpretation. The OP may now be able to go away and make their own mind up. It is a forum which allows various people to offer advice and some replies maybe be tinged with a little sarcasm - maybe one could thicken ones skin just a little and just grin at some answers. Acids will damage acylic, plastic, chrome, brass and will darken stainless. We all should know the obvious facts about PPE and the the fact dilution rates have an effect on the products aggressive effects. Cola has phosphoric in it but I've never read you need PPE on the label
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Ok,
Thick skin it is then!
See, i'm grinning ;D
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Evans clear its very good stuff.
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Aquamix is good, but doesn't stay on a vertical surface for very long, unlike a toilet cleaner that comes out like gel, meaning a longer dwell time.
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Kalizido from Solutiions in cornwall and a magic sponge often available from Aldi
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Both of these acids are intended for descaling and also come as descaling products if you check.
I'm not talking about industrial acid from a barrel.
Any of these products can be bought from any cleaning supplies
Didn't realise he has to use a product that only you can sell to him.
Toilet cleaner is also an acid.
The gloves and safety glasses should be worn if using any kind of chemicals.
they do on the sites that I work on anyway.
Don't you teach the importance of PPE on your courses?
Why do people feel it necessary to be sarcastic and promote their own products
with every post they put on here?
Well here is your reply:
1. When you offered a solution relating to acid you should have pointed out to a new poster the risks involved in case YOUR ADVICE was taken.
2. You have mentioned on several occasions that I promote my own products! What you fail to realise or fail to grasp is I am offering advice based on experience of Marblelife Ltd "Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" so the Aqua Mix products that you think we promote on here are a very small part of the range we sell. We promote Aqua Mix because we have been using the products for close to 10 years and we KNOW THEY WORK and they are safe.
3. I have said this before as well, but i will say it again Sales on this CIU Forum of products in a month are less than what we sell online in a day. I also pay to advertise, I also sell 1000's of other products which we never promote because theyt are not relevant to our posts.
4. What we teach on courses is not relevant to the post.
Finally you clearly recognise this statement off your own website!
"We proudly strive to use the most environmentally friendly methods possible"
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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Aquamix is good, but doesn't stay on a vertical surface for very long, unlike a toilet cleaner that comes out like gel, meaning a longer dwell time.
Assuming you are only relating to diluted Aqua Mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute this statement is true but in this scenario:
All you need to do is to use Aqua Mix NanoScrub with the Aqua Mix Phosphoric Acid Substitute and it will be more viscous than toilet cleaner and adds a soft abrasive action to boost the PAS or use Aqua Mix Ex-Treme which is a buffered acid based cleaner and is more viscous than toilet cleaner.
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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There... you've all been told! ;D
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I would avoid anything highly acidic, or high alkalinity come to that
Toilet cleaner like harpic can work miracles, but it will damage aluminium , and even chrome taps....
I have a hansgrohe sink tap, I put some harpic at back of tap to remove a bit of stubborn limescale.....left 10 mins as was distracted, it's leached in to the chrome plating.
So in domestic jobs I would just use limelite and non scratch scourer, after a few cleans it will improve,just tell custy it takes a whole to get the screens nice.
Also, most shower screens have aluminium frames, even limelite will mark these if left unatttended.
Mr B
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Totally agree with you Kevin, but have been carrying out builders cleans and eots for years using this product which is also stainless steel safe.
By using one product it makes it easier for my staff.
To date it has never caused any damage to fittings, frames, taps, or sinks, and it's cheaper.
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Totally agree with you Kevin, but have been carrying out builders cleans and eots for years using this product which is also stainless steel safe.
By using one product it makes it easier for my staff.
To date it has never caused any damage to fittings, frames, taps, or sinks, and it's cheaper.
Mate I don't doubt you and if it works for you and the staff great! However, we do find that when they see things like Professional Products for Professional People on the labels they are impressed and even more so because they then Google Aqua Mix Products and realise they can't buy them anywhere except online through Amazon, Ebay or Webshop or from a authorised distributor.
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
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::)roll
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I think they are more impressed with the results rather than looking at the labels, that's why they use me all over the country.
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I think they are more impressed with the results rather than looking at the labels, that's why they use me all over the country.
Like I said it is whatever works for you but on all of our jobs included in our quote we supply Method Statements and MSDS Sheets for all the products we are using so we stick to the Pro Gear.
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
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wired silver scrubbers (pck of 6 for £1) , bit of spray bleach , good old fashioned scrubbing ! then rinse off and buff up and shine with good old shower screen/glass cleaner - works for us :)
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Do you use this method on acylic ?
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Ditto