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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 08:43:03 pm

Title: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 08:43:03 pm
i have a nice commercial job i do twice a month.
Was there today.
I was there cleaning windows on one house and another window cleaner was cleaning a house few doors down.
The sales women were looking at a house with woman from head office.
The other window cleaner approached them and said he wants to put a price in and who does he ring.
The woman from head office gave him the number.
The site sales woman told me later on.
What would you do???
I dont like the said window cleaner very much,hes a slime ball that undercuts.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on June 06, 2013, 08:45:08 pm
It's a tough game in business
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: edward1 on June 06, 2013, 08:46:25 pm
that's life, >:(
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: bobplum on June 06, 2013, 08:46:29 pm
i have a nice commercial job i do twice a month.
Was there today.
I was there cleaning windows on one house and another window cleaner was cleaning a house few doors down.
The sales women were looking at a house with woman from head office.
The other window cleaner approached them and said he wants to put a price in and who does he ring.
The woman from head office gave him the number.
The site sales woman told me later on.
What would you do???
I dont like the said window cleaner very much,hes a slime ball that undercuts.

is this a building / housing site
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 08:50:06 pm
i have a nice commercial job i do twice a month.
Was there today.
I was there cleaning windows on one house and another window cleaner was cleaning a house few doors down.
The sales women were looking at a house with woman from head office.
The other window cleaner approached them and said he wants to put a price in and who does he ring.
The woman from head office gave him the number.
The site sales woman told me later on.
What would you do???
I dont like the said window cleaner very much,hes a slime ball that undercuts.

is this a building / housing site
Yes m8
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: roundbuilder on June 06, 2013, 08:51:39 pm
Thats how i get a lot of my commercial work. As gav said business is business. 8 years ago you could charge pretty much what you wanted to do high commercial work. Nowdays its a different story altogether so much competition and price wars going on.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 08:53:57 pm
Thats how i get a lot of my commercial work. As gav said business is business. 8 years ago you could charge pretty much what you wanted to do high commercial work. Nowdays its a different story altogether so much competition and price wars going on.
Still find it wrong.
I charge a very good wedge there too.
Oh well i will canvass his round because hes useless
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: stuart mc on June 06, 2013, 09:14:09 pm
oh my gawd, someone has the audacity to ask to quote a job :o

us window cleaners are weird, expecting no one to quote our work.

 a wee tip, there is no unwritten morale code
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Ian101 on June 06, 2013, 09:18:07 pm
Thats how i get a lot of my commercial work. As gav said business is business. 8 years ago you could charge pretty much what you wanted to do high commercial work. Nowdays its a different story altogether so much competition and price wars going on.
Still find it wrong.
I charge a very good wedge there too.
Oh well i will canvass his round because hes useless


Yeah but not useless at finding new work  ;D
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 09:19:24 pm
oh my gawd, someone has the audacity to ask to quote a job :o

us window cleaners are weird, expecting no one to quote our work.

 a wee tip, there is no unwritten morale code
Perhaps i have morals then.
And this window cleaner was calling my mate for getting some of his work he lost due to his sub standard work.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 09:21:59 pm
Stuart m,

It depends on your views, i personally do not go out of my way to take work from another window cleaner, i just do a good job and if asked, then i provide a quote, but that's me.

I have always had the same view since i started, but obviously now there are more and more window cleaners, and the bulk of that can be put down that there are waterfed poles where some people wouldn't want to climb a ladder, so its a lot easier in that respect.

Stuart m,

Amongst a lot of window cleaners in the north west, and  window cleaners that have been at it a while in the north west, there actually is an unwritten code.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 09:22:42 pm
Windiewasher,

i share similar views to you obviously, but obviously commercial is more cut throat, so it happens.

If i do a good job for a commercial client, and they are approached and they are influenced by cheaper quotes - then obviously it brassess me off, but its better to see there poor loyalty early on.

They are not worth your blood pressure pal.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Richard60 on June 06, 2013, 09:25:29 pm
same as archer said .
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 09:27:52 pm
Windiewasher,

i share similar views to you obviously, but obviously commercial is more cut throat, so it happens.

If i do a good job for a commercial client, and they are approached and they are influenced by cheaper quotes - then obviously it brassess me off, but its better to see there poor loyalty early on.

They are not worth your blood pressure pal.
Cheers mate been doing it fir over 2 years.
The sales manager at head office is new and nasty and abrupt.
Im not happy about but will keep going and no not to trust anyone in future.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: stuart mc on June 06, 2013, 09:28:59 pm
oh my gawd, someone has the audacity to ask to quote a job :o

us window cleaners are weird, expecting no one to quote our work.

 a wee tip, there is no unwritten morale code
Perhaps i have morals then.
And this window cleaner was calling my mate for getting some of his work he lost due to his sub standard work.

archer I actually agree with you, I don't go out my way to bother other w/c's but when it happens to me I do not take it personally, they are running a business

see when you did groupon, or delivered leaflets or canvassed, did you care that you may be quoting others work?

and how were your morals when you built your round while claiming sick from an employer?

can't remember you being to fussed about that.

if you are doing a good job for a fair price you should not be worried by others, you are in business though, it will happen, I don't know why window cleaners take it personally
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 09:31:12 pm

Stuart m,

your comments there are pretty stupid towards me, and if you would like me to educate you a little just ask, because i WILL make you look a fool with your comments towards me.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 09:32:22 pm
Ive never quoted others work unless they asked me.
If i canvass and they have a window cleaner i say no probs thanks bye.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: stuart mc on June 06, 2013, 09:36:43 pm

Stuart m,

your comments there are pretty stupid towards me, and if you would like me to educate you a little just ask, because i WILL make you look a fool with your comments towards me.

I am sorry Archer, my quote went wrong, the first sentence was for you, the rest was for the OP. sorry for the confussion
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 09:41:53 pm


Ok stuart,

thought it was for me  :(

thanks
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Knocker on June 06, 2013, 10:02:57 pm
You should come down to London the competition is unreal, dozens and dozens of commercial window cleaning companies all chasing the same work.

We pick up new business every week, but it's not really new business it's somebody else's business, we also lose jobs every week to the compaetition it's just the way it goes.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: CleanClear on June 06, 2013, 10:03:49 pm

Amongst a lot of window cleaners in the north west, and  window cleaners that have been at it a while in the north west, there actually is an unwritten code.


That code seems to vary a bit from....
don't clean in the same street as me.........to..... don't clean on the same estate as me.
Don't come here offering monthly, you'll knacker the job us for us, its fortnightly or nothing.
Bottom line is, the people who don't like competition either can't compete or don't want to.
The competition seems [to me at least] good for the window cleaners, i've never seen so many in nice new vans with expensive equiptment offering a real service. I think the closed shop days are numbered, infact i know it !!!  ;D
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 10:16:59 pm
The competition seems [to me at least] good for the window cleaners, i've never seen so many in nice new vans with expensive equiptment offering a real service. I think the closed shop days are numbered, infact i know it !!!  Grin

nice new vans, that comes from the use of the pole system, due to the fact having the machine in the vehicle.

There are more window cleaners now and one reason is because they do not have to use ladders to clean higher level windows.

As for the days of a closed shop being numbered, just hope you don't have trouble from any who think that way, because there are a few out there, infact i know !  ;)
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on June 06, 2013, 10:48:38 pm
Ive never quoted others work unless they asked me.
If i canvass and they have a window cleaner i say no probs thanks bye.

Pie in the sky morals doesn't pay the bills.

If I knock on a house its because I want the place, if they have a window cleaner I ask if theyd like an alternative quote.

The other window cleaner is more driven and motivated than you, end of.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Moderator David@stives on June 06, 2013, 11:05:43 pm
there are more than 20 million properties in England, whats your problem ?
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 11:06:59 pm
there are more than 20 million properties in England, whats your problem ?
exactly dave whys he step on my toes?
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 11:10:28 pm
exactly dave whys he step on my toes?

You must have big feet  ;)
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 11:12:54 pm
exactly dave whys he step on my toes?

You must have big feet  ;)
lol only size 11 been that size since I was 14!
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 11:13:39 pm

You know what they say about big feet ?  ;D













Big shoes  :D
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: mark dew on June 06, 2013, 11:13:56 pm
No point getting too attached, a commercial job is going to go eventually anyway.
The same with any customer.
And you haven't lost the job yet.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: Archer on June 06, 2013, 11:16:05 pm

Size 11 at 14 years old  :o

What size at birth ?

size 2, ha ha  ;D ;D ;D

bet they looked like canoes
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 11:16:51 pm
No point getting too attached, a commercial job is going to go eventually anyway.
The same with any customer.
And you haven't lost the job yet.

Its a formality,cheers though mate,
I will use it to drive me on!
Onwards and upwards.Its made my mind up to have a tele canvasser for a few hours a week or month!
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 11:18:11 pm

Size 11 at 14 years old  :o

What size at birth ?

size 2, ha ha  ;D ;D ;D

bet they looked like canoes
Lol I don't think I grown much after 14,i started smoking not long after so perhaps stopped growing upwards but went outwards instead,lol
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on June 06, 2013, 11:27:15 pm
exactly dave whys he step on my toes?

Because no-one has informed him what a precious little flower you are.
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: windiewasher on June 06, 2013, 11:45:40 pm
exactly dave whys he step on my toes?

Because no-one has informed him what a precious little flower you are.
RRRRRR thank you Matthew
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: CleanClear on June 06, 2013, 11:51:59 pm
As for the days of a closed shop being numbered, just hope you don't have trouble from any who think that way, because there are a few out there, infact i know !  ;)

To late for hoping, i've already met them  ;D
Title: Re: another window cleaner trying to steal my commercial.
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on June 06, 2013, 11:52:05 pm
exactly dave whys he step on my toes?

Because no-one has informed him what a precious little flower you are.
RRRRRR thank you Matthew


lol