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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richard Joyce on June 05, 2013, 07:44:47 pm
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I'm looking to buy a truckmount and the Sapphire Rage is the one I'm looking at as its in my price range and looks quite small in size do you think is a good buy I have a trafic swb so should fit ok I'm also looking at http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=317&xSec=43 to go with it any thought would be great thank you.
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The link goes to a water tank.
I don't know anyone who has a sapphire, I do know that prochem sell them for now but chemspec bought sapphire last year I'd expect chemspec Europe to eventually take over at a later date.
Prochem won't warranty the machine if you convert to LPG which is a great saving on running costs and also leaves a cleaner internal van.
Have you looked at Phoenix from John gotts also Woodbridge ?
Shaun
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They have some reviews on the american sites.
Easily fit your van
Look at Hydrasmaster , either HM or the English Phoenix
Look at what the hoses etc come too as well, and prochem sub water tanks are ££££££
Mr B
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I would think that hose reel and tank would be a bit big for a traffic,it will hold nearly 1/2 a ton of water without anything else.
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Thanks for the replys So if chemspec started doing the sapphire but I bought it from prochem would prochem still service it. They do a sub water tank is that more suited they also do http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=316&xSec=43&jssCart=2c51cb72be2edc0f903cad512548a831 would this all fit in my van with room for other kit do you know how much hose I could run from this machine.
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Don't think Chemspec have any plans to start selling truckmounts again.
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Thanks for the replys So if chemspec started doing the sapphire but I bought it from prochem would prochem still service it. They do a sub water tank is that more suited they also do http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=316&xSec=43&jssCart=2c51cb72be2edc0f903cad512548a831 would this all fit in my van with room for other kit do you know how much hose I could run from this machine.
I think you may still struggle with that hose reel there still quite big and heavy same as the old Blueline ones.To be honest i think you will struggle to get all that in a traffic and still be legal.
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Prochem said servicing should be done every 100 hours does this sound right they charge £150 each time a 100 hours doesn't seem much to me but I have never had a truckmount before
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Richard give Hydramaster a call get some other options together before deciding. Nice machine but the backups very important.
mark
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Buy British, get a Pheonix and keep an Englishman in a job. :)
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I'm based in Poole dorset so hydrasmaster is a bit far for servicing its a 3 hours away is £100 hours per service about right?
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Ive just bought a prochem blazer. Great little machine! much more heat and power than I was expecting!!
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500 hrs full dealer service, 50 hrs change oil, 100hrs oil fiter all things you can do yourself.
HM have place in Oxford, Alltec service machines and I think theres a good TM servicer in Gloucestershire.
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Yep, GP Cleaners in Gloucester, fantastic company, they also sell second hand TMs,
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I have a prochem legend.
It's not a service every 100 hours.
Oil change with filter, few tweaks and bits every 6-8 weeks costs£130-150.
If you get into that pattern then you can avoid breakdowns, and stoppages on jobs.
Plus you get a good service history for selling at later date
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Do you guys with truckmounts use hose reels or just store the hose as I'm a bit concerned about it being to heavy I have a renault trafic swb?
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basic maintenance on any truckmount is very simple even for those without knowledge. Every 100 hrs would be Oil & Oil Filter which would cost between £15 - £25 depending on where you got the parts. Even the changing of the oils to the water pump / vacuum blower is simple as too is the changing of spark plugs and air filters. Once you have had time to get used to the machine you would find its easy to service & maintain which would cut out the cost of travelling to and from a dealer plus their service costs.
As for the weight. Best thing to do is try and get the weights of everything you require (remembering to add the weight of fuel in your van and machine, the weight of water in the tank and your own body weight). Its is possible to use smaller vans such as the one you have but you would have to be careful about how much water you carry. It may be best to get a van with a higher carrying capacity.
Now for the debate regarding hose reels. The can make life easier and do make the van tidier however they do add alot of weight and take up alot of room. Alot of guys simply coil the hoses up and hang them from the side of the van using bungee straps or large hooks. This still means the van looks tidy, less weight to carry and more room. IF you were tempted in to getting something like a Renault Master or Ford Transit LWB then id say YES get a hose reel as you will have more room and higher carrying capacity.
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I can't change my van as I have not had it long and still paying for it and I don't want any thing bigger so I will have to make sure I get the weights right. can i buy just a solution hose reel as this would help
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Running expert van, with hose reel
Sent pic to your email
Mr B
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Thanks Brian for the pic
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what is your main work domestic,commercial i have seen the machine in prochem chessington,its very neat and modern looking would be perfect for your van
however i have the blazer gt in a long wheelbase high top vivaro its a bit weighty when your carrying everything
i would recommend the gt even in your van,i would imagine some of the more powerful portys would do a similar job to the saphire and save yourself a bundle of dough,if your going to a tm start with the gt in my opinion
gary
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No portable compares anywhere near the Sapphire truckmount. Dont be fooled by its compact size. Its been cleverly designed without the loss of usual truckmount performance
If its the Sapphire Rage your looking at then look at the specs side by side with the Blazer GT. Same engine and a vacuum blower giving more CFM than the Blazer GT.
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I have been looking at hose reels but the uk seem to have a very limited stock over the pound they have wall mounted ones and slimmer ones even roof mounted ones. I'm just trying to find the best for space and weight is there any in the uk you guys know of that are wall and roof mounted also can I direct feed from the machine as when I spoke to prochem they said there's was to just carry the hoses and its very heavy and to big really.
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if you r still thinking of the 'Rage' check the drive belts- I think its a major operation to change them. I think Prochem take a day to do it
Terry
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you could save (!) weight with the Water Pond from Prochem
Water pond electric hose reel & water tank
Space-saving water tank and electric hose reel combination unit. This slide-in unit is the solution for hose storage and expanded fresh water capacity! The water tank holds 454 litres of fresh water and the reels hold up to 250 feet of vacuum and solution hose. Vacuum hose reel is motorized for fast hose retrieval. Paint lock finish assures that the unit won’t rust or corrode.
Code SS682 £3,295.00
Yes indeed a real snip at £3295 - you could probably get one made for a lot less than that with live solution reel
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If you put that water pond in the back of a Renault Traffic you would not be able to get anything else in probably not even the truckmount,
thats if it would even fit in the first place.
Try Hydramaster they will make one whatever size you like.
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reagarding Hose Reel sizes. Get in touch with HydraMaster UK. They will make you one to whatever size you require.
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Are you saying they will build me a hose reel to what ever size or will they build a water pound tank and hose reel like the prochem one but small?
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yes hose reel to any size.
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as above...yes they will build a hose reel to any size you require. Also if you want a custom made fresh water tank they will do that. HydraMaster UK not only sell the HydraMaster range of truckmounts but also their own. Give them a call to see what package they can put together ........ tailor made to fir your van. 01209 823 740, ask to speak with John Gotts.
Heres a link to the Phoenix 450i truckmount.
http://www.phoenixtruckmounts.co.uk/450ispecifications.html