Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on May 30, 2013, 04:43:25 pm
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Okay guys who has experience with these?
I understand they range from less than £300 to over 1k.
What do you get for your bucks and which is the best way to go?
Ta.
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depends what your using it for (and don't say gutter cleaning lol) as in just residential or mainly commercial.
For me personally i use a basic Clark vac with genny as it was small enough to fit in the van and could unload and load by myself weight wise and is fine for your run of the mill residential.
Some may disagree but i found it powerful enough, there are a few more options about now a days regrading vacs etc but 1 thing i would highly recommend is to get carbon fibre poles as the normal ally ones are heavy after a while especially if your working over a conservatory,
and at your age you need to look after yourself ;D
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If you intend to go into it big time, and expect to do lots of work then go with more powerful machine, and carbon fibre poles; if you just want to do the odd ones then go for the budget clark .
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flood-Fire-Professional-Wet-Dry-Vacuum-90-Litre-Industrial-3000W-Triple-Motor-/140788182507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20c7a12deb,
He(Kevin Martin,he`s on here) can supply them with a 51mm inlet for an extra £30 ish or so.He uses these vacs in his own business and rates them.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flood-Fire-Professional-Wet-Dry-Vacuum-90-Litre-Industrial-3000W-Triple-Motor-/140788182507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20c7a12deb,
He(Kevin Martin,he`s on here) can supply them with a 51mm inlet for an extra £30 ish or so.He uses these vacs in his own business and rates them.
i got mine off kevin with the 51mm inlet 3000w triple switched motors.added some grippavac poles 3 off , i cut one straight in half as 2 is not long enough but 3 is too long for normal houses.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flood-Fire-Professional-Wet-Dry-Vacuum-90-Litre-Industrial-3000W-Triple-Motor-/140788182507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20c7a12deb,
He(Kevin Martin,he`s on here) can supply them with a 51mm inlet for an extra £30 ish or so.He uses these vacs in his own business and rates them.
i got mine off kevin with the 51mm inlet 3000w triple switched motors.added some grippavac poles 3 off , i cut one straight in half as 2 is not long enough but 3 is too long for normal houses.
Cheers Carl,i got mine off Kevin after speaking with you last year(51mm),good advice,good price.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flood-Fire-Professional-Wet-Dry-Vacuum-90-Litre-Industrial-3000W-Triple-Motor-/140788182507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20c7a12deb,
He(Kevin Martin,he`s on here) can supply them with a 51mm inlet for an extra £30 ish or so.He uses these vacs in his own business and rates them.
i got mine off kevin with the 51mm inlet 3000w triple switched motors.added some grippavac poles 3 off , i cut one straight in half as 2 is not long enough but 3 is too long for normal houses.
glad it worked out m8y. i remember the phonecall and glad to help you.
i had cheapo vacs and kit but a better setup is a no brainer m8
buy cheap buy at least twice, buy quality and buy once.
Cheers Carl,i got mine off Kevin after speaking with you last year(51mm),good advice,good price.
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depends what your using it for
The intention at the moment is for domestics up to town house size properties.
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depends what your using it for
The intention at the moment is for domestics up to town house size properties.
the vac mentioned and grippavac poles will sort u out m8.
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thanks Carl.
What do the grippa poles retail at ?
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thanks Carl.
What do the grippa poles retail at ?
I`ve purposely forgotten how much i paid for mine,i bought 9 of them.(`ve used them all together reaching the crevice betwween L shaped roofs)They sold me a u-bend as well and its not cheap.Maybe one day i`ll find a use for it.Silcone u-bend,51mm alloy tubing cut to shape like the ones in the pics every one sells was the way i went,thanks again to Carl.
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thanks Carl.
What do the grippa poles retail at ?
i think they are £100 each.
plus u need to add a silicone bend 135 degree i think.
and a couple of end tools, narrow etc.
i actually sawed in half a grippavac carbon pole as they are too long when using 3 on normal propertys ( 2 storey)and 2 is not enough
and keep the half i sawed connected to the vac hose so on a normal house i use 2 & 1/2 poles.
absolutley perfect .
(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p558/cannockwindowcleaning/IMG_0424.jpg)
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That vac in the pic is off here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flood-Fire-Professional-Wet-Dry-Vacuum-90-Litre-Industrial-3000W-Triple-Motor-/140788182507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20c7a12deb ??
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yes m8
same but blue
the fellow is on here and very helpfull.
he uses these to suck up ground slurry etc etc !
more than adequate m8
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Whats the inside diameter of grippamax poles ?
just on personal experience of vac'ing anything smaller than 2" bore seems to block and jam more frequently.
so yes ali poles are heavier but the job is done quicker.
a silicone bend is useless - too much flex to help dig out blockages - a solid bend will help lift/shift/move heavy blockages
to allow the vac to suck it up.
get a powerful model otherwise it wont get out those 'turf's' and weeds
Darran
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Whats the inside diameter of grippamax poles ?
just on personal experience of vac'ing anything smaller than 2" bore seems to block and jam more frequently.
so yes ali poles are heavier but the job is done quicker.
a silicone bend is useless - too much flex to help dig out blockages - a solid bend will help lift/shift/move heavy blockages
to allow the vac to suck it up.
get a powerful model otherwise it wont get out those 'turf's' and weeds
Darran
+1
Ali poles like the ones from Omnipole are adjustable too, so no sawing pieces off to get the right height.
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do you have to still get the ladders out sometimes though?
also customer has to be in dont they so you can plug into their electricity?
then you need a camera that takes pictures so you can show custy the results?
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do you have to still get the ladders out sometimes though? I guess. We did a gutter job on Tuesday that NO gutter-vac would have touched.
also customer has to be in dont they so you can plug into their electricity? Portable genny.
then you need a camera that takes pictures so you can show custy the results? That would be for my piece of mind not theirs.
My interest in a gutter vac is purely for those totally stupid inaccesible by ladder gutters and town houses which Im not willing to take on at the moment without a vac.
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do you have to still get the ladders out sometimes though?
also customer has to be in dont they so you can plug into their electricity?
then you need a camera that takes pictures so you can show custy the results?
1) Never used a ladder in 4yrs
2) I use a generator so no need for custys electricity
3) Only ever used a camera on commercial work where they wanted evidence of the clean.
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I have a Nisfisk 1800 and find it very good on domestic gutter. The problem I have is getting the nozzle in between the roof and gutter edge.If I have blockages its at the nozzle itself. I have thought of buying carbon poles but feel for the volume of business does not warrant the cost. I do find having an old Harris pole with a fitting to brake up the moss balls is a must for me using my vac. I did a 49 metre job last week which took less than 15 min to vac. It used to take me all day before.
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I have a Nisfisk 1800 and find it very good on domestic gutter. The problem I have is getting the nozzle in between the roof and gutter edge.If I have blockages its at the nozzle itself. I have thought of buying carbon poles but feel for the volume of business does not warrant the cost.
Make up a reducer to fit on the end of your nozzle if it doesn't get right into the gutters.
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Nilfisk for me too. The big suckers are a pain in the backside to lug about. I keep the little'un in the van all the time with carbon poles and custies electric.
My 3000w vac and generator never get used these days unless I can't get the custies electric.
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do you have to still get the ladders out sometimes though?
also customer has to be in dont they so you can plug into their electricity?
then you need a camera that takes pictures so you can show custy the results?
1) Never used a ladder in 4yrs
2) I use a generator so no need for custys electricity
3) Only ever used a camera on commercial work where they wanted evidence of the clean.
ditto -
i only use a camera if specifically asked to to so - in most cases it's easy to see that the vac has done it's job !
after a few jobs you can tell by feel and the sound if you have anything left to suck out
Darran
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do you have to still get the ladders out sometimes though?
also customer has to be in dont they so you can plug into their electricity?
then you need a camera that takes pictures so you can show custy the results?
1) Never used a ladder in 4yrs
2) I use a generator so no need for custys electricity
3) Only ever used a camera on commercial work where they wanted evidence of the clean.
+1
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We use Omnipole equipment, have done for the past 4-5 years.
As far as I am concerned its the best, the poles are heavy but they get and handle a lot of abuse during use.
Gutter vacs are very restricted, on residential properties we still use the vacs and ladders as most elbows on down pipes are blocked and the vacs will never clear most of them.
Very rarely use the vacs on commercial properties.
Sean
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i have never looked at gutter vacs before but i was looking last night and i was surprised to find out how cheap u can get some of them for and they look so much easier then getting up a ladder i have got to get one but i would be also be in same situation wouldn't no witch one to buy but that one on that link looks good can u get ones with vid cam on top so u can see were u have cleaned and do they lose suck the taller the poles?
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James you can get cameras. I don't know how good the resolution is. But it's a start.
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I've got a star 4200 from gutter cleaning systems, very powerful but very heavy to lug around, an extra couple of minutes to set up because of the size in comparison to a small Clarke but faster on the sucking. I would recommend the gippavac poles because of speed of use, I currently use a mixture of gutter cleaning systems alloy and carbon poles but they take too long to set up where as grippavac are basically Gariners design poles, so fast to use. If you want to use if for 3 storey work then carbon fibre poles are really the only sensible option.
Simon.
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Does anyone know the length of the Grippavac poles?
Trying to find the answer on their website is like trying to get blood out of a stone.......... >:(
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i believe they are six foot sections.
They sell as 18ft (3 section),24ft (4 section) etc etc its in the drop down box on the page .
there website is shocking and i cant believe they havent sorted it .
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Many thanks Robert. :)
http://www.grippadirect.co.uk/vacuum-equipment/gutterlite-poles/1321/gutterlite%20high%20level%20vacuum%20poles-detail
I couldn't seem to find the details I was after earlier.
Maybe becuz I iz a bit fick. ;D
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I wonder where these suppliers source their cyclonic inlets from?