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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: colin purewater on May 29, 2013, 08:32:47 pm

Title: Working next to this fella today
Post by: colin purewater on May 29, 2013, 08:32:47 pm
I no this guy, he's picked up a job next to a load of
My work as the crusty didn't like my price and
Pole system,

This lad (nice fella)  has full wfp set up and is a good worker
But let's customers dictate how he works  :'(

Would you do this for £6  ???
I no I wouldn't...

(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q508/colhellil/2427A6A5-B2CF-4D28-814D-8F0C53FEF453-1454-000001697BA206EF.jpg)
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: G Griffin on May 29, 2013, 08:34:25 pm
I like how he's got his ladder through the sun roof of that car, though.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: rg1 on May 29, 2013, 08:36:07 pm
If he carries on like that I doubt you will have to worry about him much longer!
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: elite mike on May 29, 2013, 08:44:38 pm
If he carries on like that I doubt you will have to worry about him much longer!

ditto , mental  :'(
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: A-W-C on May 29, 2013, 08:50:02 pm
He`s doing that and he`s got a full wfp set up ?
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: rg1 on May 29, 2013, 08:54:33 pm
He`s doing that and he`s got a full wfp set up ?

If you read the post again you will see that the custy doesn't like wfp  ;)
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: SPE on May 29, 2013, 09:00:00 pm
at the very least why on earth would the customer even want someone to clean their dormers that way risking damage to their roof tiles or gutters ? let alone the window cleaner, and who do you suppose they would blame if their property did get damaged ?
no I would'nt do it either.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: wfp master on May 29, 2013, 09:02:09 pm
that would be a dumped custy if no wfp allowed.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: colin purewater on May 29, 2013, 09:05:14 pm
He`s doing that and he`s got a full wfp set up ?

If you read the post again you will see that the custy doesn't like wfp  ;)
-s

I think it's more the price I charge than the system I
Use tbh  

Tight arse folk not bothered about h&s
Just bothered about a couple quid in the pocket
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: gavinb on May 29, 2013, 09:14:31 pm
I seen one very similar the other day but didnt have time to take a pic .
For tbe sake of £6 id tell em to ram it .
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: SPE on May 29, 2013, 09:18:51 pm
He`s doing that and he`s got a full wfp set up ?

If you read the post again you will see that the custy doesn't like wfp  ;)
-s

I think it's more the price I charge than the system I
Use tbh  

Tight arse folk not bothered about h&s
Just bothered about a couple quid in the pocket
If thats the case, then he should be dictating his working method to them if £6 is all they are prepared to pay, like it or lump it, wfp qucker and safer
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: Geoff on May 29, 2013, 09:20:37 pm
Custards don't know nuttin' 'bout window lickin'.

Dump/avoid/execute.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: colin purewater on May 29, 2013, 09:30:56 pm
He`s doing that and he`s got a full wfp set up ?

If you read the post again you will see that the custy doesn't like wfp  ;)
-s

I think it's more the price I charge than the system I
Use tbh  

Tight arse folk not bothered about h&s
Just bothered about a couple quid in the pocket
If thats the case, then he should be dictating his working method to them if £6 is all they are prepared to pay, like it or lump it, wfp qucker and safer

You are right! The thing is the lad is a bit timid
And us frightened of having no work
So he would sooner gave a load of cheap stuff than
Nothing at all ! 

I no, daft

By the time he had finished that £6 job I had done
The same house next door for £12
And most of one with a conny, I've told him
How to deal with his customers but he won't listen,,,
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: rg1 on May 29, 2013, 09:36:28 pm
He`s doing that and he`s got a full wfp set up ?

If you read the post again you will see that the custy doesn't like wfp  ;)
-s

I think it's more the price I charge than the system I
Use tbh  

Tight arse folk not bothered about h&s
Just bothered about a couple quid in the pocket
If thats the case, then he should be dictating his working method to them if £6 is all they are prepared to pay, like it or lump it, wfp qucker and safer

You are right! The thing is the lad is a bit timid
And us frightened of having no work
So he would sooner gave a load of cheap stuff than
Nothing at all ! 

I no, daft

By the time he had finished that £6 job I had done
The same house next door for £12
And most of one with a conny, I've told him
How to deal with his customers but he won't listen,,,

Let him get on with it, he will learn the hard way.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: A-W-C on May 29, 2013, 09:54:37 pm
He`s doing that and he`s got a full wfp set up ?

If you read the post again you will see that the custy doesn't like wfp  ;)

I did read it that`s why i replied with my comment  ;)
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: Geoff on May 29, 2013, 09:56:41 pm
A house for £12?!

Round here you can get £35 for a three bed semi.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on May 29, 2013, 09:59:25 pm
Carry on like that he'll be working under you not next to you.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: colin purewater on May 29, 2013, 10:07:18 pm
A house for £12?!

Round here you can get £35 for a three bed semi.

Were do you live?  the year 2036 ?
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: Richard60 on May 29, 2013, 10:11:13 pm
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: james peters on May 29, 2013, 10:20:05 pm
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: Geoff on May 29, 2013, 10:24:34 pm
;D ;D
;D ;D
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: keyser soze on May 29, 2013, 10:25:00 pm
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol




and thats why people get hurt doing ladder work. dumb ass
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: colin purewater on May 29, 2013, 10:25:17 pm
Oww get her !  Put ye claws away love  :-*
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 29, 2013, 10:26:04 pm
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol

james peters - you make me smile ...

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: G Griffin on May 29, 2013, 10:43:51 pm
A house for £12?!

Round here you can get £35 for a three bed semi.

Were do you live?  the year 2036 ?

Yes, he does sometimes.
I see him at the mosque occasionally.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: CleanClear on May 29, 2013, 10:56:57 pm
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol
I think i understand your point James, the cleaner is just doing his best. And he's getting paid. But in this scenario having a pole that squirts water does give you god status as far as i'm concerned. That is so dangerous what he's doing, which would suprise you least..........
1) he slips and falls and hurts himself
2) he slips and falls and hurst himself and his slipping ladder damages roof slates and gutters

Its only a case of when. I have no issue with what the guy charges. If someone can operate on a scale to achieve low costs for the customer  and earn a living then he's onto a winner no matter what people here think prices should be. But thats just an accident waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: JamesAJF on May 29, 2013, 11:06:42 pm
surely he must have  something at bottom of ladders to keep them from slipping theres no way they would stay there at the angle :-X
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on May 29, 2013, 11:14:30 pm
A car if he's got any sense.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: colin purewater on May 30, 2013, 06:01:26 am
surely he must have  something at bottom of ladders to keep them from slipping theres no way they would stay there at the angle :-X

Nope! Nothing at all at the end if the ladder to stop
It slipping,

My point was not the fact that I'm better than him etc

My point was the fact that this fella has a water
Fed pole set up and is still doing this because that's
What the customer has told him to do!

So no I don't think I have a god status because I
Have a pole!  BECAUSE HE DOES AS WELL  ::)roll
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: james peters on May 30, 2013, 06:43:10 am
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol




and thats why people get hurt doing ladder work. dumb ass

so go and aproach the guy...put your handbags away and stop bitching about it...dumb ass
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: Ian101 on May 30, 2013, 08:10:09 am
surely he must have  something at bottom of ladders to keep them from slipping theres no way they would stay there at the angle :-X


My point was not the fact that I'm better than him etc



yes but you are better than him as everyone knows wfp cleaners superior to trad cleaners  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: Avo on May 30, 2013, 08:14:23 am
You have to draw the line somewhere and that's just stupid if you ask me.. I'm sure the custy won't pay his bills while off work with two broken arms..
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: rg1 on May 30, 2013, 09:04:00 am
This is not a wfp v trad issue, its a safety issue as can clearly be seen in the photo!
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: colin purewater on May 30, 2013, 12:15:32 pm
This is not a wfp v trad issue, its a safety issue as can clearly be seen in the photo!

100% correct!

Some people just don't read things propaly before they
Start bitching  ::)roll
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: davids3511 on May 30, 2013, 05:30:55 pm
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol




and thats why people get hurt doing ladder work. dumb ass

so go and aproach the guy...put your handbags away and stop bitching about it...dumb ass

You need to read the thread properly. He has already said he tried to advise him. You are looking like the dumb ass now.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: wpclean on May 30, 2013, 05:55:24 pm
It is a shame that some have little self confidence, and will do anything to please others ( including doing unsafe work)

I used to be like that, but now if  potential customers expect me to climb ladders I ask if they will pay for my funeral, and look after my family if i fell off and died on their property !
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 30, 2013, 07:22:01 pm
The ladder must been dug in grass then, not just on concrete.


Ive been window cleaning 10 years, 1 year wfp... and ive done what this guy is doing LOADS of times, and I know a fair few others on here have aswell.

Certainly wouldnt do it now, BUT, this is common pratice still in the window cleaning world.


Everyone's seems shocked to see this  ???
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: dazmond on May 30, 2013, 08:30:30 pm
IMO the guy is a complete idiot.if the customer refused WFP and wanted me to climb a ladder then i simply wouldnt take the job on.simple.

some window cleaners are thick and stupid.i think he qualifies for both!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: SPE on May 30, 2013, 09:19:06 pm
I've done worse, luckily without injury but would'nt do anything like that now, it would seem foolish to take such risks when you have invested so much in something that is safer. But we have all at sometime been keen to get work and taken risks or underpriced especially early on in our business.
Probably the best advice to him would have been to look this forum up, would help no end in giving him a good background in how other cleaners price, health and safety etc. would help with confidence and put the customer right on what is acceptable practice and what is'nt.
Although not sure I would be happy coming on here and seeing a picture posted of myself and being critisized or being branded thick and stupid  ;D :D tut tut Dazmond  :D

Simon
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: gary999 on May 30, 2013, 10:12:42 pm
plenty have done things like that in the past including myself
but to have wfp and still do that is ridiculas
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: Philip Osborne on May 30, 2013, 10:14:33 pm
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol
and thats why people get hurt doing ladder work. dumb ass
so go and aproach the guy...put your handbags away and stop bitching about it...dumb ass
Hmmm ... I can only see one handbag in here.  When you mention "status" ... you do realise all the "Cleanitup God"s in here don't choose that status for themselves?  It's just automatically assigned based on how active they are ... like your Sr. Member status.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: ascjim on May 31, 2013, 07:03:52 pm
A house for £12?!

Round here you can get £35 for a three bed semi.

Were do you live?  the year 2036 ?

haha you are the man!
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: SunShineCleaning on May 31, 2013, 07:16:36 pm
The ladder must been dug in grass then, not just on concrete.


Ive been window cleaning 10 years, 1 year wfp... and ive done what this guy is doing LOADS of times, and I know a fair few others on here have aswell.

Certainly wouldnt do it now, BUT, this is common pratice still in the window cleaning world.


Everyone's seems shocked to see this  ???

Shocked because he doesn't NEED to do it. He has a perfectly good alternative yet no 'man bits'
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: sean liam on June 01, 2013, 11:08:25 pm
He could even trad them with extension pole. That's just nuts.
Title: Re: Working next to this fella today
Post by: DG Cleaning on June 01, 2013, 11:20:00 pm
so the customer chooses the guy on a ladder?I doubt thatv hes ona forum moaning about his day ::)roll.... he worked hard ..he got payed , and they want him over YOU...
seriously... you need to get a life ... having a pole that squirts pure water doesnt give you God satus ???
you are just a wndow cleaner... and by the status a window cleaner with insecurities... lol
and thats why people get hurt doing ladder work. dumb ass
so go and aproach the guy...put your handbags away and stop bitching about it...dumb ass
Hmmm ... I can only see one handbag in here.  When you mention "status" ... you do realise all the "Cleanitup God"s in here don't choose that status for themselves?  It's just automatically assigned based on how active they are ... like your Sr. Member status.

 ::)roll
I'm a god between the sheets as well as on here ;D