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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: PAUL ERITH on May 26, 2013, 06:39:10 pm
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Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty
I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.
What does every one else use.
Thanks Paul
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immersion heater
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A thread about Winter, That's Summer officially over then! :)
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A thread about Winter, That's Summer officially over then! :)
When did it start?
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Just planning ahead thats all ;) ;)
Plus i would rather be fitting the stuff in the warm weather before winter gets here.
Paul
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no big deal with cutting a hole in the roof for a flue, gas is the best way to go, you can get the flow controllers with the thermostat which recircuates hot water around your system,
along with a oil filled rad you wont have any prooblems, best and arguably the cheapest
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Stop It !
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Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty
I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.
What does every one else use.
Thanks Paul
If you think you need to cut a hole in the roof of the van for used gases to vent from a gas water heater, say what do you think happens to the used gases from the propex heater ? Is it just some gases need a vent and others are ok?
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Stop It !
The way this years going we'll all be heating up about August !! ;D
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Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty
I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.
What does every one else use.
Thanks Paul
If you think you need to cut a hole in the roof of the van for used gases to vent from a gas water heater, say what do you think
happens to the used gases from the propex heater ? Is it just some gases need a vent and others are ok?
The propex vents through the floor of the vehicle , same as an eberspacher /webasto diesel heater .
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Want to be prepared for winter and like the idea of a overnight gas propex heater to keep the van & hoses toasty
I'm not keen on the gas water heater due to needing to cut a hole in the roof of my van for the used gases vent.
What does every one else use.
Thanks Paul
If you think you need to cut a hole in the roof of the van for used gases to vent from a gas water heater, say what do you think happens to the used gases from the propex heater ? Is it just some gases need a vent and others are ok?
The exhaust on the propex is only about 1 or 2 inches wide and can be vented out the side by the rear bumper.
They even sell the WEBASTO AIR 12V DIESEL NIGHT HEATER KITS on ebay for a bit more than the gas propex
The reason i don't want to cut a hole in the roof is i need to get a bigger two man van later next year and i would imagine cutting a hole in the roof will kill the resale value :-\ :-\
Paul
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only may winter is a long way off yet you should be asking what colour shorts should i wear
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Mount the gas at the sliding door.
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The reason i don't want to cut a hole in the roof is i need to get a bigger two man van later next year and i would imagine cutting a hole in the roof will kill the resale value :-\ :-\
Paul
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Just stick a rotating roof vent on it..
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Stop It !
The way this years going we'll all be heating up about August !! ;D
You make a good point ! It did indeed do just that in 2003 with 100f in August - maybe it runs in ten year cycles.. ;)
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Blow heater, has this circulates around the van
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If you can't get electric to the van at night to run a frost heater, then the propex gas heater is the way to go.
The diesel air heaters draw a high battery amperage to get fired up so drain the battery. On a cold night they will stop and start many times which is the problem. A propex heater just takes minimal current to ignite the flame and then use a small current to run the propex fan, as will the diesel heaters.
Diesel is convenient, but also expensive. A diesel heater will draw about a third of a litre of diesel an hour, so if it runs for 9 hours a night, then expect that to cost around £5 which may extend to the day as well.
If you invest a little more money, you can buy a refillable gas bottle. This has two advantages - the gas from a fuel station is cheaper, and if you get the transparent type, you can see how much gas you have left in the cylinder. (I would check that your chosen service station does allow you to refill these bottles. They were quite strict about this at one time do to people trying to fill ordinary gas bottles which is very dangerous.)
The downside is that you need to check the implications of gas with your insurer and it becomes a little more difficult if you haven't an LPG gas supplier near you.
I would also drill a vent hole in the floor of the van as a safety procaution. Gas is heavier than air so if there is a gas leak, this is a good way to let it escape.
There are a number of users on here who have successfully used these heaters in winter - Roy Harding is one.
A mate of mine is unable to heat his van at night, so drains his pump and hoses down every night in the winter. He takes his hose reel and pole inside to stop them freezing. He has always been able to work in winter when conditions allow.
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immersion heater
Me too; with a timer. Works a treat.
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I put none of the above
Because I am street parked I cannot run electricity out to the van for a heater or immersion.
It is worth this time of year though planning for colder shorter days.
I have just finished re routing hoses and wiring in my van so all is quick release and the pump is now in a removable box.
All done within a day and now I am sorted for winter, if it looks like things will freeze I can remove them in a couple of mins and take indoors overnight.
(no ro in the van though, just tank, pump, controller and reel)
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If you can't get electric to the van at night to run a frost heater, then the propex gas heater is the way to go.
The diesel air heaters draw a high battery amperage to get fired up so drain the battery. On a cold night they will stop and start many times which is the problem. A propex heater just takes minimal current to ignite the flame and then use a small current to run the propex fan, as will the diesel heaters.
Diesel is convenient, but also expensive. A diesel heater will draw about a third of a litre of diesel an hour, so if it runs for 9 hours a night, then expect that to cost around £5 which may extend to the day as well.
If you invest a little more money, you can buy a refillable gas bottle. This has two advantages - the gas from a fuel station is cheaper, and if you get the transparent type, you can see how much gas you have left in the cylinder. (I would check that your chosen service station does allow you to refill these bottles. They were quite strict about this at one time do to people trying to fill ordinary gas bottles which is very dangerous.)
The downside is that you need to check the implications of gas with your insurer and it becomes a little more difficult if you haven't an LPG gas supplier near you.
I would also drill a vent hole in the floor of the van as a safety procaution. Gas is heavier than air so if there is a gas leak, this is a good way to let it escape.
There are a number of users on here who have successfully used these heaters in winter - Roy Harding is one.
A mate of mine is unable to heat his van at night, so drains his pump and hoses down every night in the winter. He takes his hose reel and pole inside to stop them freezing. He has always been able to work in winter when conditions allow.
Thank you for the informative post propex gas is the way to go then ;D ;D
Thanks Paul
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You can also circulate the water instead of heating the van.
If you use a speed controller (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1X-12V-40V-10A-Pulse-Modulation-13khz-PWM-DC-Motor-Adjuster-Speed-Control-Switch-/321096001990?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_ET&hash=item4ac2d029c6) at a very slow speed,it should prevent your hose and pump freezing up.A good 24ah battery should last at least 12 hours.
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best prep for winter is start working weekends once we hit autumn
put the money away and sit it out comfortably if it gets bad
works for me ;)
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Proper 2000 heatsource best bit of kit
Ever IMO iv used one for years
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Proper 2000 heatsource best bit of kit
Ever IMO iv used one for years
Going to get one before winter gets here the HS2000 is the one i'm looking at its better on gas than the HS2800.
I think The Facelift pro van heater is the propex HS2000 rebranded might be wrong though :-\ :-\
Thanks Paul
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does anyone use tube heaters and if so are they any good.?
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A thread about Winter, That's Summer officially over then! :)
Just want to take this opportunity to wish everyone a very Merry Xmas and a happy new 2014.
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A thread about Winter, That's Summer officially over then! :)
Just want to take this opportunity to wish everyone a very Merry Xmas and a happy new 2014.
You can all take the pee but i would rather do work on my van in the warm weather than waiting for winter to get here and freezing my nutt off doing it in rain and snow ;) ;)
Paul
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Paul I'm sure chopsie as a propex for sale
Jus trawl thru the buy n sell section
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And believe me once you av a propex
You'l understand why they are so good
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And believe me once you av a propex
You'l understand why they are so good
On the vw forums they are all impressed with propex and they do group buys on their for £350 for the hs2000
Paul
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there is not many things i do differently in winter apart from sticking an oil filled radiator in the back of my van to stop pumps/hoses freezing.
i also take grit and a sweeping brush for wet pathways that might freeze and an extra flask of hot water in case my jets freeze.THATS IT!!
nice and simple and cheap.no problems,no worries.
also make sure you have an emergency fund built up that you can dip into if need be just in case the weather is that bad that you cant get out at all.
regards
dazmond