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Title: One Shot Remote
Post by: Barryy on May 14, 2013, 08:54:20 pm
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Liquid-Logic-trade--Radio-Control-Ultimate-One-Shot-Controller--LIQUIDLOGIC_REM_SA.html

Hi scrubbers,
Anyone use this remote? Looks good, but would like confirmation that it's worth getting. Thanks.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 14, 2013, 09:41:17 pm
My personal opinion is whats the point? If you have dead end detection on your pump controller? all you need is a hose/pole hose tap or even disconnect if you have an end stop.

until they make a remote that can adjust the flow other than on/off im out!
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: DG Cleaning on May 14, 2013, 11:14:32 pm
My personal opinion is whats the point? If you have dead end detection on your pump controller? all you need is a hose/pole hose tap or even disconnect if you have an end stop.

until they make a remote that can adjust the flow other than on/off im out!

+1
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: Ian Sheppard on May 15, 2013, 10:54:31 am
Using the radio remote means the pump does not dead end. The radio switch is placed in line between the control and pump on the live (brown) cable.

Activating the radio switch stops the pump instantly. as opposed to the control seeing a pressure build up and stopping the pump (DE)
You will see flow for A couple of seconds or so as the pressure in the hose lines bleed away. On restarting the pump the  system will take a couple of seconds to repressure.

DG point on remote taken on board
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: DG Cleaning on May 15, 2013, 11:14:56 am
I can't see a problem with dead ending the pump.
I personally don't use a controller (although I know a lot do)
I turn off the flow between every window and I've yet to burn out the pressure switch and even if I do they're cheap as chips.
When I want to lower the flow I shut the valve a bit.
Yes I know it may put added strain on the pump but its yet to show in its performance.
A new pump is only £65 a diaphragm kit even less.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: Ian Sheppard on May 15, 2013, 11:45:50 am
I would agree there is no problem with dead ending the pump.
A controller is designed to do just that a control stops the pump before the pressure switch kicks in meaning there is less pressure in the system while the water is stopped.

A control gives an alternative means of controlling the flow and will monitor other parts of a system. Equally I appreciate that they are not for everyone.

The one shot radio remote again gives an alternate way of stopping the pump without a build up of pressure in the system.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: Ian Sheppard on May 15, 2013, 11:47:36 am
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Liquid-Logic-trade--Radio-Control-Ultimate-One-Shot-Controller--LIQUIDLOGIC_REM_SA.html

Hi scrubbers,
Anyone use this remote? Looks good, but would like confirmation that it's worth getting. Thanks.

Link to quide

http://www.springltd.co/upload/One-Shot%20Radio%20Remote%20-%20Standalone%20V4.1.pdf
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: jarvy on May 15, 2013, 12:15:08 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300903502252?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Just ordered one of these,gonna see if it is of any use.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: R.C Property on May 15, 2013, 12:58:51 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300903502252?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Just ordered one of these,gonna see if it is of any use.

 they are for internal house leds and not for water fed pole work. they wont last at all and you would be lucky to get 5-10m away from it. they soon burn out after a few on offs!
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: jarvy on May 15, 2013, 01:13:02 pm
still going to try it out
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: Scrimble on May 15, 2013, 03:10:55 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300903502252?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Just ordered one of these,gonna see if it is of any use.

cheapskate
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: jarvy on May 15, 2013, 03:51:33 pm
Been called worse,you'll have to do better!
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: ascjim on May 15, 2013, 07:53:16 pm
Surly it would be good if your trying to save battery power
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: ascjim on May 15, 2013, 08:02:35 pm
Also, does this unit turn the controller off?
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: Barryy on May 15, 2013, 08:35:41 pm
Thanks for all replies. I have a John Guest tap just before the brush so I'd still be able to control the flow pretty easily on the downstairs windows and use the remote for the higher ones. Anyone know how effective they are when out of sight of the van, for instance if you're around the back of a house?
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: Pete Thompson on May 17, 2013, 12:11:43 am
 
Quote
they are for internal house leds and not for water fed pole work. they wont last at all and you would be lucky to get 5-10m away from it. they soon burn out after a few on offs!

It says its rated for 8 Amps, I think it should handle a WFP pump fine.  I'd be interested to know how he got on with it.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: jarvy on May 17, 2013, 12:48:27 pm
I will let you all know,putting it in the back pack to see if it will work as a flow control.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: Ian Sheppard on May 17, 2013, 12:48:41 pm
Quote
they are for internal house leds and not for water fed pole work. they wont last at all and you would be lucky to get 5-10m away from it. they soon burn out after a few on offs!

It says its rated for 8 Amps, I think it should handle a WFP pump fine.  I'd be interested to know how he got on with it.

It is not the Amps that will be a problem more  as RC says it is not designed for a wet environment the cable connectors are exposed to the elements.

The remotes switch the pump off and stop the water flow. The controller will remain on, The pump is responsible for pretty much all the current draw from your battery followed by voltage loss down the cables. A controller is taking 100th of a milli amp
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: R.C Property on May 17, 2013, 01:58:37 pm
Quote
they are for internal house leds and not for water fed pole work. they wont last at all and you would be lucky to get 5-10m away from it. they soon burn out after a few on offs!

It says its rated for 8 Amps, I think it should handle a WFP pump fine.  I'd be interested to know how he got on with it.

i put on on a back pack pump just to try them out and it worked fine to start, only got 5m range on it and as soon as the pump pressured up it stoped working as it burnt out.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: jarvy on May 17, 2013, 03:47:10 pm
Bugger  :D
At least i haven't wasted too much money then!
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: ascjim on May 17, 2013, 03:53:08 pm
I've installed this remote today http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190829271367?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I didn't install it because i want to save water. I usually unplug my pole from the hose when not in use :-/ easy enough....

I've installed it so i don't have to keep opening the side door to my van 20 times a day to turn the system on/off. I would leave it running all day and let it dead end but i only do short runs and need to save battery power.

Easy to fit also.
Title: Re: One Shot Remote
Post by: jarvy on May 26, 2013, 05:53:24 pm
http://youtu.be/N2PQ4MXgdtM
This is that controller fitted.
Will try and get a better vid of it going.
Range is not huge,but is works as a flow controller which is what I wanted it to do.