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Title: Low battery
Post by: neiljoust on May 14, 2013, 01:04:18 pm
got a brand new leisure battery 100 aph fully charged cleaned first house then my controller says battery i have it on settings 60 any idea or is 60 to high
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: Tom White on May 14, 2013, 01:12:01 pm
I really dislike flow controllers.  If you've got the water capacity, get rid and just work on full flow.
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on May 14, 2013, 02:47:24 pm
Sounds like a dud battery, 60 is not too high, I run on 80 all the time.
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: neiljoust on May 14, 2013, 03:04:46 pm
When its running , if u it the right button its says 11.8 on a pure freedom controller but if you leave it it flashes 60 then battery then 60 and so on its one battery that runs everything with a t max split charger
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: DaveG on May 14, 2013, 03:37:57 pm
I really dislike flow controllers.  If you've got the water capacity, get rid and just work on full flow.

I think the new controllers are too complicated, low batt this, low volts that, blah blah blah. I bet if you disconnect the controller, you will have loads of pressure!
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: andyM on May 14, 2013, 03:52:12 pm
When its running , if u it the right button its says 11.8 on a pure freedom controller but if you leave it it flashes 60 then battery then 60 and so on its one battery that runs everything with a t max split charger

The battery should be reading a minimum of 12.7 volts fully charged or ideally 13 volts +.
If your battery is reading 11.8 volts after it has been charged you either have a duff battery or a faulty charger.
 
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: formb on May 14, 2013, 03:52:55 pm
Quote from: DaveG
I think the new controllers are too complicated, low batt this, low volts that, blah blah blah. I bet if you disconnect the controller, you will have loads of pressure!
+1

Most of the functions are unnecessary, it's a nice idea but it's unreliable. Faster or slower, that is all we need.
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: neiljoust on May 14, 2013, 04:29:08 pm
right just tryed something , put the pump on it said 12.7 then dropped down to 12.0 after 5 min on but then put charger on it went up to 14 should it drop to 12.0
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: ascjim on May 14, 2013, 04:33:30 pm
I used mine at 15 lol
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: firefly123 on May 14, 2013, 04:36:57 pm
mate i have a new 100 amp battery full charge it never goes above 12.7 no battery you get will have 100% charge or stay that way
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: Tom White on May 14, 2013, 04:40:30 pm
Bin the controller; seriously; work fast with a fast flow and no hassles. 
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: neiljoust on May 14, 2013, 04:46:59 pm
ok guys thanks will try
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: Frankybadboy on May 14, 2013, 04:47:37 pm
Bin the controller; seriously; work fast with a fast flow and no hassles. 
5years and over with 2 controllers and no problems here,got to know what your doing with um ;)


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Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 14, 2013, 11:42:33 pm
I really dislike flow controllers.  If you've got the water capacity, get rid and just work on full flow.

+1 ditched mine and never looked back. Control flow mechanically with tap on belt or trigger.
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: dave0123 on May 15, 2013, 12:57:49 am
I use my flow on 15 as well, controller runs fine lots of flow. Better than manual ones
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: Spruce on May 15, 2013, 10:42:08 am
 I would wire the controller onto the van battery as see what happens. If you are getting the same issue, then you have to suspect the controller. If it doesn't happen, then suspect the battery, even although new.

Our old leisure battery behaved like this when it failed. Initial fully charged voltage which dropped to low voltage when the pump was running for a bit. It didn't have an capacity of holding a charge.
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: Ian Sheppard on May 15, 2013, 10:43:24 am
right just tryed something , put the pump on it said 12.7 then dropped down to 12.0 after 5 min on but then put charger on it went up to 14 should it drop to 12.0

Volt drop could be the issue check connectors and cable for any damage replace any worn or rusted connectors. Also ensure the cables are as short as possible.
Copper cables has resistance factor so the longer the cable the greater the resistance and the greater the volt drop along its length

It is possible the battery is not holding a charge very well, however if it is brand new this seems unlikely.
A leisure battery is designed to release charge over a long gradual period although I would expect to see the battery voltage fall as you describe when the pump first begins to take current and place a load on the battery.

Can I ask the age of the controller? The controls available since November 2012 have a low battery cut of over ride feature.

The flow rate you have is not an issue based on a 100PSI 5.2 Ltr per min pump the pump is pushing approx 3 ltrs a min and drawing 3 - 4 amps

As the pump draws amps the battery voltage will fall.

Are you running a split relay charger? or charging at home.
Also what pump and how old is it?

The Controller continually monitors the battery state if the battery briefly dipped below 11V and then came back up the control would see the dip and report it.
Title: Re: Low battery
Post by: rosskesava on May 15, 2013, 11:13:12 am
I really dislike flow controllers.  If you've got the water capacity, get rid and just work on full flow.

+1 ditched mine and never looked back. Control flow mechanically with tap on belt or trigger.

+2

Same here. No flow controler means no problems.

I use a 35amp golf battery and I've never had a problem with that either. No split relay charging or any of that, I take it indoors each night and charge it.