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Title: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Gornall on May 14, 2013, 06:13:00 am
Finally I can see an end to what has been a very costly and annoying period.
In July last year one of my vans was written off in an accident, (no fault of ours it was parked at the time)
The insurance were very good, they gave me a hire van for a while then paid out what I felt was a decent amount for an old van. The problem I had was I was not expecting it so never had a lot of funds available to add to it so ended up having to buy cheap.
I searched everywhere and eventually bought a Renault Traffic from a dealer up near Wigan.
It did 300 miles before going bang!!
I contacted the dealer who said “ get it diagnosed and let me know what the situation is, it makes more sense to fix it at your location due to the distance”
But as soon as it became apparent the bill was going to be very large he changed his tune and accused me of “Breaching my warranty by working on the van” and said it was not his problem.
Yesterday I had my day in court and the judge found in my favour so next week the van goes back, I get a full refund plus expenses.
It broke down Sept 6th last year so as you can imagine it’s not been easy.
So what van next (please don’t suggest Renault)   I am leaning toward a Citroen Dispatch as have decided I don’t want one that’s too large but just large enough for 2 people when needed.
I think I may go for contract hire this time as at least with a new one I get a decent warranty.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: C o z y on May 14, 2013, 06:32:31 am
I've got nearly the same situation with my van, except this has been ongoing since August last year. Costs of court and solicitor so far is over 5K. Expensive here. Should get the result within the next 4 weeks. Sweating.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Gornall on May 14, 2013, 07:01:58 am
I've got nearly the same situation with my van, except this has been ongoing since August last year. Costs of court and solicitor so far is over 5K. Expensive here. Should get the result within the next 4 weeks. Sweating.
Good luck with that. I never used a solicitor as i felt i had a vwry atrong case plus the cost is crazy, so I tried to have  everything laid out in such a way so I could answer any question and have evidence to back it up.
I was told by a friend that the easier you can make it for the judge the better it helps your case. The judge actually commented on the "exemplary"way it was presented.
Even so it's a nerve racking experience and not one I would want to repeat in a hurry.
Let us know how you get on
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: MNWC on May 14, 2013, 07:44:21 am
good result mate, pleased for you .....
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: G Griffin on May 14, 2013, 07:57:05 am
Nice one, Neil..........who d'ya get the van off? Fair enough if you don't want to say or delete the name after, if you like.

Good luck, C.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: colin purewater on May 14, 2013, 07:59:38 am
Swb tranny or lwb connect. Toyota hiace etc

Well done on the win mate
Who was the dealer so I no to avoid like the plague ?
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Ian101 on May 14, 2013, 08:20:12 am
Swb tranny or lwb connect. Toyota hiace etc

Well done on the win mate
Who was the dealer so I no to avoid like the plague ?

wasnt van monster by any chance was it ?
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Total shine cleaning services on May 14, 2013, 08:25:42 am
I 2nd the ford and Toyota post, they are bullet proof

graham
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: richard jagger on May 14, 2013, 09:40:27 am
I agree with Colin Pure water +1
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Gornall on May 14, 2013, 11:15:53 am
Thanks lads, at this stage I would rather not name the trader as I still have to get my money back  ;)
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: chez on May 14, 2013, 11:42:42 am
Really glad you got some justice and glad you had the strength to go to court. Flipping dodgy car salesman not wanting to honour their warranties. But thankfully there are some good ones too.
Well done
Chez
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: C o z y on May 14, 2013, 12:03:59 pm
I've got nearly the same situation with my van, except this has been ongoing since August last year. Costs of court and solicitor so far is over 5K. Expensive here. Should get the result within the next 4 weeks. Sweating.
Good luck with that. I never used a solicitor as i felt i had a vwry atrong case plus the cost is crazy, so I tried to have  everything laid out in such a way so I could answer any question and have evidence to back it up.
I was told by a friend that the easier you can make it for the judge the better it helps your case. The judge actually commented on the "exemplary"way it was presented.
Even so it's a nerve racking experience and not one I would want to repeat in a hurry.
Let us know how you get on

Wouldn't stand a chance of doing it yourself here mate!!  ;D Technical German and a civil law book that's got 7 volumes!! I wasn't legally insured to pay for my solicitor, although I'm insured for everything else. I didn't renew my legal insurance so am having to pay everything up front. By the time it's over, with luck I get every penny back. Will let you know  ;)
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Jones on May 14, 2013, 12:14:25 pm
Renaults are poop, but seen as you liked the traffic why don't you get a vivaro, same van but vauxhall. I had a traffic, it was crap and I've had two vivaros since, great vans.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: wpclean on May 14, 2013, 01:48:38 pm
Renaults are poop, but seen as you liked the traffic why don't you get a vivaro, same van but vauxhall. I had a traffic, it was crap and I've had two vivaros since, great vans.
Both the Vivaro, and the Traffic have the same renault engine !
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: j timms on May 14, 2013, 02:12:15 pm
had a dispatch 3 years mate , no probs yet and good medium size van. 500 litre tank in back and still plenty of room.
also very handy 3 seater in front.


good luck
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services on May 14, 2013, 04:18:47 pm
+1

Great van, I have the long wheel base, great for all the extra equipment we carry.

Steve
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: JamesAJF on May 14, 2013, 08:39:28 pm
good for u well done. toyota hiace or a vw van if u got alot of mony ;)
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Dani J on May 14, 2013, 08:43:44 pm
Finally I can see an end to what has been a very costly and annoying period.
In July last year one of my vans was written off in an accident, (no fault of ours it was parked at the time)
The insurance were very good, they gave me a hire van for a while then paid out what I felt was a decent amount for an old van. The problem I had was I was not expecting it so never had a lot of funds available to add to it so ended up having to buy cheap.
I searched everywhere and eventually bought a Renault Traffic from a dealer up near Wigan.
It did 300 miles before going bang!!
I contacted the dealer who said “ get it diagnosed and let me know what the situation is, it makes more sense to fix it at your location due to the distance”
But as soon as it became apparent the bill was going to be very large he changed his tune and accused me of “Breaching my warranty by working on the van” and said it was not his problem.
Yesterday I had my day in court and the judge found in my favour so next week the van goes back, I get a full refund plus expenses.
It broke down Sept 6th last year so as you can imagine it’s not been easy.
So what van next (please don’t suggest Renault)   I am leaning toward a Citroen Dispatch as have decided I don’t want one that’s too large but just large enough for 2 people when needed.
I think I may go for contract hire this time as at least with a new one I get a decent warranty.


Sorry to hear about your problem, VW transporter every time, never fail. IF BUY CHEAP YOU END UP PAYING MORE.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: home6442 on May 14, 2013, 09:14:45 pm
Wait until you have your money in your hand.
Dodgy car dealers never listen to a judge most think that they are above the law.
You will get it eventually but it might involve the bailiffs.
Hope I am wrong on this one. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 14, 2013, 11:40:49 pm
Going new? Hyundai iLoad with 5 year warranty. Had mine from new 14 months now. RWD and highest torque in it's class. (2.5diesel)
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Jones on May 19, 2013, 10:33:41 pm
Renaults are poop, but seen as you liked the traffic why don't you get a vivaro, same van but vauxhall. I had a traffic, it was crap and I've had two vivaros since, great vans.
Both the Vivaro, and the Traffic have the same renault engine !
I'll take your word for it that they do but I never said anything about the engine. Dealing with Renault was one of the worst experiences of my life  >:( Then the van itself, i'm pretty sure they use pritstick to put everything together, if it didn't come off in my hand then it just didn't work.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: wpclean on May 19, 2013, 10:44:08 pm
Renaults are poop, but seen as you liked the traffic why don't you get a vivaro, same van but vauxhall. I had a traffic, it was crap and I've had two vivaros since, great vans.
Both the Vivaro, and the Traffic have the same renault engine !
I'll take your word for it that they do but I never said anything about the engine. Dealing with Renault was one of the worst experiences of my life  >:( Then the van itself, i'm pretty sure they use pritstick to put everything together, if it didn't come off in my hand then it just didn't work.
Have to agree with you there  ;D
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: keyser soze on May 20, 2013, 12:23:46 am
i hope they don't offer you £10 per wk
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: robert mitchell on May 20, 2013, 07:41:11 am
Going new? Hyundai iLoad with 5 year warranty. Had mine from new 14 months now. RWD and highest torque in it's class. (2.5diesel)
Whats the fuel consumption like ?
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 20, 2013, 05:56:10 pm
Going new? Hyundai iLoad with 5 year warranty. Had mine from new 14 months now. RWD and highest torque in it's class. (2.5diesel)
Whats the fuel consumption like ?

I get about 25mpg but ...

I have had mine 14 months and only done 6500 miles - it's all stop start up to about 10 miles a day with only a few days when I do about 30 miles.

I believe it should do mid thirties on a run.

By comparison my 1.3 Doblo does about 39-40mpg and 50mpg on a run.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Gornall on May 21, 2013, 06:11:29 pm
The van was delivered back to the dealer today as per the courts decision.

The dealer now has till 4pm on the 28th to pay me the full purchase price plus costs of £700.

Fingers crossed  :-\
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: frankwii on May 21, 2013, 08:42:43 pm
toyta hiace al the way, no problems as of yet and keep rease value 
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Gornall on May 28, 2013, 10:34:16 pm
Every penny paid IN FULL into my bank today.  Result!!!!!

I was a bit skeptical but glad to say the dealer turned out to be decent in the end.

Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: davids3511 on May 28, 2013, 10:37:20 pm
Result, glad you got sorted. I bet it was a bucket load of stress.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Neil Gornall on May 28, 2013, 10:40:44 pm
Result, glad you got sorted. I bet it was a bucket load of stress.
Thanks
It certainly was stressful. Been going on since early sept so glad to see the end of it
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Ian101 on May 28, 2013, 10:43:12 pm
Who was dealer
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: Lee13 on May 28, 2013, 10:58:30 pm
I've just bought a Toyota Hiace SWB - solid van. My dads on his 3rd in about 30 years. It took me a good few months to find one though. Keep your eyes peeled!
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on May 28, 2013, 11:00:45 pm
Who was dealer


Richy Wilts.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: PoleKing on May 30, 2013, 01:33:49 am
Every penny paid IN FULL into my bank today.  Result!!!!!

I was a bit skeptical but glad to say the dealer turned out to be decent in the end.



Not really-if he was decent he would've refunded your money or not sold you a pup in the first place!
Glad you're sorted though.
Nothing worse than van trouble.
Title: Re: Justice at last
Post by: 8weekly on May 30, 2013, 05:57:48 am
Who was dealer


Richy Wilts.
LOL.