Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steven Butler on May 03, 2013, 07:16:22 pm
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Would appreciate your opinions on a move I have just made, firstly though, I do this part time, am new, work in employment aswell whilst I build it up and am only averaging 1 or 2 jobs a week so it's very much part time.
Anyway ....
I have sold my twin vac machine and with the money bought...
A sabrina maxi (10 months old)
A victor wolf rotary (with shampoo brush, hard brush and bonnet pads, all pretty much new)
And a Sahara drieaz in excellent condition.
I know I've dropped to single vac but I think I've bought some excellent equipment???
Opinions appreciated
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No opinion as there is too much off this going on now, and the pro guys are having a hard time because of it.
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i agree you have had a good deal 8)
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Creighton thanks.
Paul, how do you mean the pro guys are suffering? When you first started did you not ask advise and try to learn???
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Yep, but i had commited to it full time andb12 years ago things where different. I learnt by trial and error at my own expence and not by getting free info off every body else. Its ok when theres loads of work, but when work is thin on the ground and part timers just come into it for extra money for hols etc then im all out of giving valuable info out to all on sundry. :-X
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Steven, i have one lad who uses the exact same machine who works for me and he works far faster and completes more jobs a day than another part time lad who has an all singing all dancing twin vac machine and other gear. He gets better results too and i call every customer and they are always over the moon. You will struggle on some really deep set dirty wool carpets though that may result in the dredded black death, but at least you have a rotary to finnish off if needed.
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Paul to be fair I can fully understand what your saying, and to be fair agree. However I'm not doing it part time for holiday money, or beer money or whatever. I'm trying to support my family and give them a better life. I'm not working and looking for additional income....I'm working just to pay the bills whilst trying to build a business to eventually do full time.
As for getting advise that's the point of forums isn't it?
I'm not looking to argue mate if u don't want to offer advise then don't.
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Deep Cleaning Solutions (sorry dont know your name)
Thanks for that, good to know. I do have doubts but hopefully the air mover will help compensate for the single vac, also as u say the rotary will play its part.
Cheers mate
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Steve no probs this end mate.
Im helping a couple of full timers out at the mo that are struggling and its because of the new boys and part timers that are coming in charging stupid prices etc.
One guy though is listening well and has just got a job that he thought should be £300 and now is getting over £900, he has tried hard over the past couple of years and now things are starting to work for him.
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Paul, one thing I have done out of respect to you pros/experienced/full timers is try to charge high ish....and that's out of respect.
Maybe costing me work at present but...
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Steve, good luck.
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To be honest with you Steve TACCA has a minimum equipment level for membership and a single vac machine would not permit entry. It is a low performance basic machine. You will find it fine until you have some thing better to compare it with. If you want some proffesssional advice, do a course and get some training on what is available.
There are lot of carpet cleaners using substandard equipment and doing a bad job, and plenty on here that will say that it is fine. I started with crap equipment years ago and not having any training was totally ignorant of the fact. You need heat, power, aggitation, decent chems and training .
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.comhttp://
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Thanks for the replies.
Do you really need heat though?
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do you wash your clothes in cold water..?? or do you get better results when you wash them in a 40 or 60 wash ?
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They are rinsed in cold :P :P
;D
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cold wash dish washing machines are all the rage too!
Honestly if anybody thinks they are getting the best results from cold water cleaning come down and spend a day with me so we can compare results.
Peter
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I'm not saying warm water is good enoug....BUT people have told me it is. Confusing
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Steve, tomorrow go and do a bit of gardening in the soil with your bare hands and then go and have a play in your car engine.
Then go and wash your hands in cold water.
Do the same all over again and this time wash them in hot water.
And the answer to your question you will find out ;D
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It is very confusing I have spoken to CC who have been in the game 30 years + and never used hot water, then chemical companys spend thousands upon thousands on developing a chem so it can be used cold ???Vey confusing
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I'm not saying warm water is good enoug....BUT people have told me it is. Confusing
People recommend heat because it will usually enable you to get the result you want quicker and with less effort .. but u can do without it .
With the gear you have ... vacuum the carpet or if the customer has done it don't bother
Prespray the carpet , us your rotary and brush to scrub it in , put the warmest water available on the premises into your machine , add a little carpet powder or rinse to the tank if you like , extract and do a couple of dry passes after each stroke , put on your airmover in a corner , go over the carpet with your rotary and bonnet pads . Groom the carpet .
You could get an excellent result and have the carpet near dry if your in no rush .
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Hector has less than you and he seems to do OK.
There are an increasing number of carpet cleaners padding carpets with a rotary and a spotting machine. You would maybe be better off only using your HWE when absolutely necessary. I dont think they clean a carpet as well, but then I'm not paying for the job.
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Come on guys this has been battered to death over the years and common sense must preveile.
Yes of course you can clean with cold water.
Does it clean better if hot YES......
Is it quicker if hot YES
Does it do a better job hot YES
Phew, i think i will have a sit down now and a sip of winev :)
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Doug the chemist will tell you how it is, I would however go back to the training manual and recommend C.H.A.T. Training courses are a great way of understand why you are cleaning not just what you are cleaning.
Shaun
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Any recommendations on the best in line heater?
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the magma from cleansmart others will say ashbys v2 or mytee
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Time in the industry does not prove anyones appitude. A short while ago there was somebody who had been in the industry for 20 years shouting the vitues of prespraying with white spirit mixed with water. The fact that white spitrit is non-ionic and is lighter than water so through a pump up sprayer would not even come out of the sprayer till empty, did not deter this guy.
People see what they want to see. As I have said before all these things are fine until you have something to compare it with. I have dry foam machines, texatherm, use dry powder have portables, encap and a truckmount. All these methods have their uses but put each system side by side with another and you will see the difference, how many people go to the trouble of taking diffeent systems out with them and comparing them, it is something that I do all the time. I am always testing different chems and methods, you cannot say that you will never improve.
If you only use one system you have to convince yourself that it is the best or just limit yoursef to the areas where that system is the best. What I have found is it is better to be equipped for every situation.
But that is what works for me .
Peter