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Title: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 03, 2013, 08:42:17 am
Results so far this morning look good for UKIP.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: robert meldrum on May 03, 2013, 09:02:53 am
Hopefully the British will finally see a potential solution to many of our problems and back this party.

Comment on TV a couple of nights ago stated that the UK was set to become the most ethnically diverse country on the planet within thirty to forty years.

Some strange thinking people imagine that to be wonderful, others realise it will be, as Mr Powell said.........there will be blood on the streets.

My son and daughters are all expecting to move abroad.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: creighton foyle on May 03, 2013, 09:25:53 am
I have got nothing against our colonial cousins , as long as they stay in the colonies.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: robert meldrum on May 03, 2013, 09:57:40 am
It's not the colonials that are the problem as much as East Europeans. There are now  " beggars " on every street corner hassling people and young kids being trained in the arts of thieving and pickpocketing in their hundreds.

Highlighted last week...............Romanian kids are being kept away from school to beg on the streets of Aberdeen. Project this forward a couple of years and consider where we will be.

There are also East European kids as young as 12 being sent out in Glasgow ( which means it's also going on elsewhere ) to work as prostitutes.

We need to stop all of this NOW or the price that will be paid will be the complete death of our once Great Nation.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: tim handley on May 03, 2013, 10:46:54 am
bit late to worry about it now aint it????  damage is well and truly done!!!
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Chris Straker on May 03, 2013, 11:52:27 am
Mates of mine recently went to live in Canada ....... seems like a wise move  ;)

Don't get me started on immigration or asylum seekers etc .......... didn't go too well last time  ::)roll
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: robert meldrum on May 03, 2013, 11:56:41 am
Chris............

I think the more the subject is raised on forums and elsewhere the better chance there is of positive action being taken.

Hard to believe the French are ahead of us on this and hard to stomach that Germany dictates how we speak, what we grow, the shape of our vegetables, who we must allow into our country, etc, etc.

Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Dennis on May 03, 2013, 12:53:36 pm
Our Norfolk County Council seat has gone UKIP from Conservative.
GORLESTON ST ANDREWS: Matthew Smith (UKIP) GAIN from Conservatives

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/update_ukip_continue_to_gain_seats_in_norfolk_county_council_elections_1_2178289
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: John Kelly on May 03, 2013, 03:58:38 pm
Canada and to some extent Australia are suffering exactly the same problems. Lynn's brother lives in Vancouver and he'd move back here tomorrow which he can't as he has grand kids there now. The Chinese and Russian mafia aften turn the streets into battle grounds over drugs and prostitution. Vancouver did once have the most prostitutes of any developed city.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: wynne jones on May 03, 2013, 04:04:34 pm
The people who run the country, that's politicians, big business and the media will never allow us to leave The EU. There's too much money at stake and what the masses think is irrelevant. But at least we can p1ss them off a little for now.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 03, 2013, 06:48:22 pm
The end results are unbelievable, well done ukip. I worry for my grand daughter how this country is going. may be now politicians wil;l wake up and recognise that we have had a problem for the last 30 years.
Sort out Immigration ( ffs we are on 3rd generation) and get out of Europe and sort the benefit system out and get the lazy sods working  :)
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Len Gribble on May 03, 2013, 07:31:55 pm
Think a wake up call was needed cant wait to go to the conservative club and the working mans club over the weekend to see there response or is it a protest void  ;)

What I can’t understand one has the right to vote but don’t do it !!!!! an moaned about the out come.

Keep an eye on RBS shares
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: jim mca on May 03, 2013, 09:47:01 pm
If you don't like immigration then you are classed as a racist
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 03, 2013, 10:00:34 pm
That has been the fear factor drummed into us all over the past 30 years but now at last reality is kicking in.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: *Hector* on May 04, 2013, 06:42:03 am
I don't see anything racist about being a patriot..
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Simon Gerrard on May 04, 2013, 12:26:37 pm
Apart from us voting in a referendum asking if we wanted to join 'the Common Market' all the rest of the European rubbish that has crept in through the back door ever since has never been subjected to the democratic process.
If people had told us when we joined the common market that one day 75% of the laws that apply in this country would be made in Brussels and that any EU citizen would have the right to live and work (and take advantage of our health and social security system) then we would have stuck two fingers at it, which is exactly what we should do if and when we get an in or out referendum as has been promised. Until then, vote UKIP. When the ruling parties realise that we won't elect them until they do what we want, they'll soon change their tune.

Simon
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Dennis on May 04, 2013, 01:16:20 pm
This area has a lot of hard working, inclusive immigrants but we also have many feckless east European sponging wasters and the populace have had enough. The Tories have had a good pasting here at the hands of UKIP.

http://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/photo_gallery_ukip_devastate_conservatives_in_great_yarmouth_1_2180853
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Simon Gerrard on May 04, 2013, 02:09:31 pm
If the three main political parties think that UKIP could become a fourth big player, they will do something about Europe, immigration and benefits, which is why until we get what we want from our government we should all vote UKIP and that includes all of the people who instinctively vote for a particular party as a matter of course.

Simon
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: wynne jones on May 04, 2013, 04:03:15 pm
If the three main political parties think that UKIP could become a fourth big player, they will do something about Europe, immigration and benefits, which is why until we get what we want from our government we should all vote UKIP and that includes all of the people who instinctively vote for a particular party as a matter of course.

Simon

So the elephant in the room is that ukip policies require exit from the eu to work, the other parties just won't let us do that after all they know whats best for us, we are just thick biggots.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: John Kelly on May 04, 2013, 04:48:26 pm
Wouldn't surprise me if Farrage met with a nasty accident. Far fetched, we'll see.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: wynne jones on May 04, 2013, 05:03:38 pm
Wouldn't surprise me if Farrage met with a nasty accident. Far fetched, we'll see.

David Kelly
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 04, 2013, 06:36:42 pm
I thought the same thing myself but i also had the same thought when Obama got in and he never got topped.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on May 04, 2013, 07:03:01 pm
I thought the same thing when he was involved in this plane crash recently.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Dennis on May 04, 2013, 07:31:16 pm
And the Tories wonder why we are all sick to death of them!  ::)roll

Tory MP Nigel Evans is questioned by police over the rape and sexual assault of two men in their early 20s

http://news.sky.com/story/1086933/deputy-speaker-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Len Gribble on May 04, 2013, 08:19:31 pm
That has been the fear factor drummed into us all over the past 30 years but now at last reality is kicking in.

Think Blue mink hit the mark not sure about religion though ;D
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: *Hector* on May 04, 2013, 08:31:09 pm
but Blue Mink meant the world to be the melting pot...

Not the UK   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: wynne jones on May 04, 2013, 08:36:32 pm
Don't think they need to top someone these days if you want to settle scores, as max Clifford has found out.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 04, 2013, 08:42:09 pm
Yep they are gonna keep it stiring for a hundred years i think before they sort it out  ;D
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Craigp on May 04, 2013, 08:53:43 pm
If the three main political parties think that UKIP could become a fourth big player, they will do something about Europe, immigration and benefits, which is why until we get what we want from our government we should all vote UKIP and that includes all of the people who instinctively vote for a particular party as a matter of course.

Simon

No the three main will never do anything about those issues as the will is not there, they just tell they going to.

I think UKIP or Nigel especially has done an amazing job at exposing the lies and deceit the lib,lab,con have been giving us whilst being supported by the BBC. I think a huge amount of the public are 'on to them' now.

He's one clever operator, look how he went for David Cameron, when Conservative Michael (forget his surname) advised the Cons they need to do a deal with UKIP if they want to win the next General Election Nigel said he could never do a deal with that man in charge, and put Micheal Gove in charge he's more sensible ect. I could work with him, he got the Cons thinking about sacking D.C

Who'd have thought when DC called UKIP Closet racists that they could come so close to costing him his job.

He must have been seriously regretting saying those words - Nigel has never forgave him.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Craigp on May 04, 2013, 09:19:01 pm
and those think he don't know what he's talking about, he was the only MEP to say what countries would need to be bailed out and in what order, whilst the EU was still in denial.  It's worth noting he has predicted the next one will be Solviena in the next few months.

This is a great speech here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbCgw2nsrOw

Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 04, 2013, 10:08:01 pm
Craig ive been looking at Nigels euro speach's now for a few months and did not realise at first that he has been banging  about this for ten years now :o i thought he had only been going a couple of years.

Well the guy has got some guts and is getting my vote next time round, we need a leader that talks straight and has a pair of balls. If you dont believe me then just youtube nigel farage over the last ten years and see for your self.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Craigp on May 04, 2013, 10:18:42 pm
Yes I'm aware of that, he was a founder member of UKIP in 1992, it was literally born in a pub. He was a commodity broker who saw what a complete f**k up it would be when the pound stirling was pegged to the deutsche Mark.

He understands the markets and could see what a f**k up it was.
 :)
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 04, 2013, 10:52:33 pm
Watch this, its long so from 27 mins in is the best bits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Ymii1h32k
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Craigp on May 04, 2013, 11:00:36 pm
If you watch this one has clips of him back to the 90's, great stuff to, very entertaining to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb-MWoZKYmg
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 04, 2013, 11:05:00 pm
Craig, i reckon your really Nigel underva different name  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 04, 2013, 11:12:50 pm
Why cant David Cameron be like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUzEKrp8rHA
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Craigp on May 04, 2013, 11:19:27 pm
I could of met him, he gave a speech just over a year ago in a hotel in walking distance from me, I never went, but he's got so famous in such a short space of time, I dont think Ill get the chance again.  :(
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 04, 2013, 11:26:39 pm
This is even further back when Gordon Brown sunk us all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1waGanUNt0
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Simon Gerrard on May 05, 2013, 10:23:08 am
If the three main political parties think that UKIP could become a fourth big player, they will do something about Europe, immigration and benefits, which is why until we get what we want from our government we should all vote UKIP and that includes all of the people who instinctively vote for a particular party as a matter of course.

Simon

No the three main will never do anything about those issues as the will is not there, they just tell they going to.

I think UKIP or Nigel especially has done an amazing job at exposing the lies and deceit the lib,lab,con have been giving us whilst being supported by the BBC. I think a huge amount of the public are 'on to them' now.

He's one clever operator, look how he went for David Cameron, when Conservative Michael (forget his surname) advised the Cons they need to do a deal with UKIP if they want to win the next General Election Nigel said he could never do a deal with that man in charge, and put Micheal Gove in charge he's more sensible ect. I could work with him, he got the Cons thinking about sacking D.C

Who'd have thought when DC called UKIP Closet racists that they could come so close to costing him his job.

He must have been seriously regretting saying those words - Nigel has never forgave him.

Yes they will. What politicians crave the most is power and when they get it they want to keep it. Threaten them with the political wilderness because they do not reflect the will of the people and they will change, they have to.
What the British people need to do is stop voting for a party because they have always voted  labour or conservative, as if they were a football team to whom they owe an unflinching loyalty, and vote instead for parties that will deliver a Britain that is a reflection of the will of its people. If we truly have had enough of uncontrolled immigration, benefit scroungers and the endless dictates of Europe then voting for a mainstream party is a thing of the past. Putting 50 UKIP mp's in parliament will change the political landscape and perhaps give us back OUR country.

Simon
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: AshWhite on May 05, 2013, 10:25:19 am
What are their other policies?
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Craigp on May 05, 2013, 11:02:21 am
No tax on min wage.

scrap national insurance roll into one flat tax.

take the 15% sur charge off your energy bills that pays for useless windfarms that have to be backed up by nucular anyway.

all I can think of just now.

oh stop giving foriegn aid money to countries that have armies and space programmes  ;D

oh and cut VAT
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: AshWhite on May 05, 2013, 11:26:43 am
Health & Education?
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: stuart_clark on May 05, 2013, 12:02:26 pm
Did you know we give the EU 47 million pounds a day ! Its a load of crap, we wouldnt have such a masive defasit iiif we were not in the EU
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: John Kelly on May 05, 2013, 12:07:24 pm
And a lot of that comes back, but not to me and you but to rich landowners. Even the Queen gets £1.48 million a year in subsidies. The Duke of Westminster, one of the richest land owners in the world gets 780,000. Talk about beneift scroungers.

One worry I have with UKIP is they do believe in private health care and are in principle opposed to the NHS although they have no specific policies in place at the moment.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 05, 2013, 12:23:01 pm
John , im like you still uncertain about there policies buti think at the endof the day they have not had chance to deliver the full policies yet. Having saidvthat the main problems we have had in this country in the last 20 years is too much immigration ( we are on second and third generation and some ofthem have made it into high posts and jobs and have influence in running the country, how wrong is that) also they are right on what they are saying about exiting europe and sorting the scroungers out onthe benefit systems. In my eyes if they sort out ose 3 issues which con or lab have not overthe past 20 years then the saved money will start to make the economy strong again.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Simon Gerrard on May 05, 2013, 12:40:21 pm
The chances of a party like UKIP actually getting into power is zero, so for now we don't need to worry about the detail in their policies, just what on the face of it they stand for allowing us to use it, through our votes, to send a message to the ruling parties that we are fed up with immigration and the EU.
If you care about these issues there is no point in voting labour at the next election as they are pro Europe and are less likely to change than the Conservatives who are at least euro sceptic and therefore far more likely to bend to what we want.
To be fair to David Cameron, he has at least recognised that we need to re-think our relationship with Europe, which if nothing else is a start.
Ed The Idiot Milliband on the other hand doesn't know where he stands on anything, except that he is opposed to everything the government is trying to do to address the massive financial mess Gordon Brown and Tony Blair left us with.

Simon
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 05, 2013, 12:48:58 pm
Nigel Farage may not be priminister, but for sure ukip will get enough votes for a hung parliment. They underestimated ukip big time last week. Next year withnthe euro elections will show us more what will come  :)
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Craigp on May 06, 2013, 10:39:21 pm
There you go what did my earlier post say? Solvenia is the next one! Nigel has been right again. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/05/06/uk-slovenia-privatisation-idUKBRE9450TT20130506?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Hilton on May 07, 2013, 11:12:38 am
Cleggy today on the news:

"no one cares about the EU they want the coalition to deal with real issues, like unemployment and the economy"

Cleggy has made the Libs irrelevant as a party and has some how missed completely that last week UKIP trounced them in the local elections over the EU.  :-[

You could not make it up...
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Kinver_Clean on May 07, 2013, 03:04:02 pm
You could make it up---- but no one would believe you. ;D

Even a past German finance minister who helped to set up the Euro zone says it should be knocked on the head.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Len Gribble on May 07, 2013, 07:06:53 pm
this came as a shock :o

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2013/may/07/nigel-lawson-uk-eu-politics-live
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 07, 2013, 07:33:09 pm
The public are fed up with the con and lab spin doctors now. People are not stupid , we all know we need to get out of the eu and the only way of doing that is by way of protest vote to ukip.
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Hilton on May 07, 2013, 07:40:02 pm
And Cameron says today that the vote on in / out of the EU has been his idea all along do we don't need UKIP  ;D

Really, didn't he promise us all a vote in his manifesto before the last election and then withdrew it the moment he won...why would anyone believe him again ?
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Len Gribble on May 07, 2013, 07:49:53 pm
Of course People are not stupid they are just stupid people  ;)
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Paul Moss on May 09, 2013, 12:56:09 pm
This is why all the old torys are now coming out against Cameron.

You could not make this up.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/397928/Now-PM-admits-he-CAN-T-guarantee-EU-referendum-as-voters-back-bid-to-quit

And i wonder if any other country spends this much

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/396700/Councils-spend-43m-on-translators-and-interpreteurs-for-non-English-speaking-residents
Title: Re: Election results
Post by: Len Gribble on May 10, 2013, 08:25:07 pm

18hours ago FORMER Conservative councillor Rozanne Duncan has won the race to replace jailed former colleague Sandy Ezekiel at Thanet council


What’s troubles me is not the corruption it’s Total votes 1,721 (35% turnout)