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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Darren Spreadbury on April 30, 2013, 09:13:43 pm

Title: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on April 30, 2013, 09:13:43 pm
Got my new ro system today from gaps water, set it up and I have a very small leak from the end where you insert the membrane, I have taken off 5 times still leaks checked the rubber ring and it looks fine. Don't know what else to do. Anyone know?
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Geoff on April 30, 2013, 09:46:46 pm
Does it need a smear of vaseline on it to seal it?
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 09:52:18 pm
Does it need a smear of vaseline on it to seal it?

This would be the first thing to try.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on April 30, 2013, 09:59:15 pm
Yes put some on it came with some
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 10:01:33 pm
Yes put some on it came with some

Have a good look at the inside of the o ring bed and the head to see if there is any damage.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on April 30, 2013, 10:18:54 pm
Will have another look tomorrow. I know one thing I will need abooster pump only got 35 psi, would that bring the Tds down at the moment it 26 ppm with 360 going in.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 10:22:51 pm
Will have another look tomorrow. I know one thing I will need abooster pump only got 35 psi, would that bring the Tds down at the moment it 26 ppm with 360 going in.

93% rejection ratio is pretty good going on an input of just 35psi - a booster pump will improve this greatly though.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: luther1 on April 30, 2013, 10:27:13 pm
Will have another look tomorrow. I know one thing I will need abooster pump only got 35 psi, would that bring the Tds down at the moment it 26 ppm with 360 going in.

Can you adjust your waste a bit more?
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on April 30, 2013, 10:31:16 pm
I don't think so it was about 70-80% closed. I have the HF5 ultra low membrane I think it should be about 80 psi , what pump do you recommend?
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: luther1 on April 30, 2013, 10:39:11 pm
If its a low pressure membrane it's ideal running psi is 40. You shouldn't need a booster. Play with your waste a bit more
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on May 01, 2013, 05:40:40 pm
Took end cap out cleaned o ring checked the lip on the housing and the cap looked ok reapplied Vaseline no more leak. Maybe a bit off grit got on the o ring? Getting 20 ppm from 35psi.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: luther1 on May 01, 2013, 05:52:03 pm
How long have you flushed it for?
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 01, 2013, 05:58:06 pm
Does it need a smear of vaseline on it to seal it?

Don't use vaseline/petroleum jelly, it detereorates rubber o rings. Best to use some mineral oil, it might be that the o ring slightly twists when you put the o ring on.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on May 01, 2013, 07:08:02 pm
Instructions said flush for 10min
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on May 01, 2013, 07:14:10 pm
What ppm should I be trying to get. It does say that this membrane work well with a water pressure as low as 80 psi can't remember if it says that on gaps water website or somewhere else.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Rogue Trader on May 01, 2013, 08:08:56 pm
dont worry too much about what reading you are getting now. As you have a single hf5 just make sure that good to waste is a 30/70ish ratio. The longer you run it for the lower your reading will get , eventually you will be getting single figure reading , maybe as low as 4 , just give it a couple/few weeks and you will be surprised how low it gets.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: luther1 on May 01, 2013, 08:20:42 pm
Instructions said flush for 10min

Try a couple of hours. 10 mins is a joke
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: luther1 on May 01, 2013, 08:22:47 pm
What ppm should I be trying to get. It does say that this membrane work well with a water pressure as low as 80 psi can't remember if it says that on gaps water website or somewhere else.

80 psi isn't low. You've misread it. You'll should get your ppm under 10. Flush for 2-3 hours and as said earlier,the more you use it the better it will get
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: Darren Spreadbury on May 01, 2013, 10:11:42 pm
What ppm should I be trying to get. It does say that this membrane work well with a water pressure as low as 80 psi can't remember if it says that on gaps water website or somewhere else.

80 psi isn't low. You've misread it. You'll should get your ppm under 10. Flush for 2-3 hours and as said earlier,the more you use it the better it will get
ok thanks for the advice, will flush it tomorrow ready for my first tank full Friday.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: [GQC] Tim on May 02, 2013, 08:20:36 am
What ppm should I be trying to get. It does say that this membrane work well with a water pressure as low as 80 psi can't remember if it says that on gaps water website or somewhere else.

80 psi isn't low. You've misread it. You'll should get your ppm under 10. Flush for 2-3 hours and as said earlier,the more you use it the better it will get
ok thanks for the advice, will flush it tomorrow ready for my first tank full Friday.

Just in case you missed my post above, remove all traces of vaseline.
Title: Re: New 4040 ro
Post by: robert mitchell on May 02, 2013, 08:31:09 am
I have a hf5 , never got single figures until I used a booster pump (lidl £50 80psi) now I get 3-4 ppm .

well worth it in my opinion , it also depends on tds of your tap water too .

The higher it is the more reason for having a booster .