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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Rob_Mac on April 30, 2013, 10:14:47 am

Title: RAMS
Post by: Rob_Mac on April 30, 2013, 10:14:47 am
Looking into offering a service for properly written risk assessments & method statements.

I can see that there is a market for it but what is the view on here as far as a value?

If a service was offered what would you want from it?

From my point of view there would have to be some set up for each 'client' - this would be having your logo, letterhead, having detailed photos of the works and a breakdown of requirements and I would need to know about your set up, kit used etc.

Thoughts please

Rob  ;D
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Scrimble on April 30, 2013, 10:17:51 am
what for? i do a few large commercial jobs and they do the risk assessment for me
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Rob_Mac on April 30, 2013, 10:21:42 am
You have clients who do your risk assessments for you - that's an interesting way of working.

What do they know about your kit, your set up procedure, your working practises.

Do you sign them when you get on site or do they send them to you?

Rob ;D
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Alex Wingrove on April 30, 2013, 10:25:58 am
I use HS Direct, and pay £400 per year. That includes as much time as I need per RAMS with a consultant
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on April 30, 2013, 12:08:47 pm
We also use hs direct very good value
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: SunShineCleaning on April 30, 2013, 06:24:02 pm
Any comments on what you get from HS direct for your money?
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: colin purewater on April 30, 2013, 08:10:31 pm
what for? i do a few large commercial jobs and they do the risk assessment for me

Do they clean the windows for you as well ???

Not being funny mate but that says to me they
Think you incompetent  :o
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: bobplum on April 30, 2013, 08:36:37 pm
what for? i do a few large commercial jobs and they do the risk assessment for me

Do they clean the windows for you as well ???

Not being funny mate but that says to me they
Think you incompetent  :o

your incompetent ; ??? or you

(damn,how do you highlight words in say red on this site )  ....i suppose that makes me incompetent ;D ( im sorry i started this)
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: g.brookes on April 30, 2013, 08:42:40 pm
You could always do the FWC course for half that price and learn how to do them very quickly yourself
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Llaaww on April 30, 2013, 09:00:57 pm
what for? i do a few large commercial jobs and they do the risk assessment for me

Do they clean the windows for you as well ???

Not being funny mate but that says to me they
Think you incompetent  :o



your incompetent ; ??? or you

(damn,how do you highlight words in say red on this site )  ....i suppose that makes me incompetent ;D ( im sorry i started this)

you are
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: SunShineCleaning on April 30, 2013, 09:16:00 pm
From what I can tell from the website the cost includes access to the cloud based system and an easy email system when needed.

It would be good if someone who uses it could offer some info.
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on May 01, 2013, 02:53:52 pm
Ring them and talk to them
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: SunShineCleaning on May 01, 2013, 03:02:23 pm
Ring them and talk to them

 ;D I did so this morning. Signed up for a year, we'll see what we get.
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Rob_Mac on May 01, 2013, 04:06:09 pm
Do they include using your logo, letterhead on the paperwork because I have paid someone to do mine and I then had to do a load of work to get it on there.

Could someone let me have a look at what one of the Risk assessments & method statements look like, possibly by email link.

Give you some kind of idea - mine can take hours and a recent one was 20 pages of method statement.

Rob ;D
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on May 01, 2013, 04:46:17 pm
Why 20 pages the hse says they should be a simple has possible ???
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Rob_Mac on May 01, 2013, 04:49:00 pm
They are a step by step through my works, they are larger works and they can have more than one service offered.

Rob ;D
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on May 01, 2013, 04:53:11 pm
What are you doing brain surgery  ;D
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: Rob_Mac on May 01, 2013, 04:57:07 pm
They don't earn as much as me ;D

Fuel stations can be a canopy underside, soffit, kiosk walls, window cleaning, pressure washing to concrete/block flooring.

They can be live and the RAMS have to be very tight.

I know that the RAMS are read on my works and I also know they take a dim view on generic and basic paperwork!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: RAMS
Post by: SunShineCleaning on May 01, 2013, 05:09:51 pm
Do they include using your logo, letterhead on the paperwork because I have paid someone to do mine and I then had to do a load of work to get it on there.

Could someone let me have a look at what one of the Risk assessments & method statements look like, possibly by email link.

Give you some kind of idea - mine can take hours and a recent one was 20 pages of method statement.

Rob ;D

Yes to the logo. Plus they are doing me a RAMS I can use as a template.