Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mike Halliday on April 28, 2013, 04:43:56 pm
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..... From the TACCA day?
2 things stuck in my mind, one was a quick talk with Jamie about how to find commercial contracts.
For a long time I did some strange things to try and contact big companies but I stopped doing Them as I came to the decision that 'professional' companies don't do gimmicky marketing?
But when Jamie started talking about cupcakes, posting shoes, sending holiday postcards it just clicked with me maybe those things I did weren't strange after all.
Secondly John Kelly and Richard from chemspec showed some forgers and talked about treating doctors surgeries and offices against communicable deseases and how there are companies making big money going into offices on a monthly basis and just fogging them. An investment of £400 for a fogger and £20 of chemical and they are earning silly money.
Both of these were gems of information which were just casually mentioned...... and that's what's great about days like this, if you keep your ears open you can hear business changing information.
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John Kelly and Richard from chemspec showed some forgers and talked about treating doctors surgeries and offices against communicable deseases and how there are companies making big money going into offices on a monthly basis and just fogging them. An investment of £400 for a fogger and £20 of chemical and they are earning silly money.
This is the one that I took away from the day. It was the only demo that I saw in between my sessions but that little gem can help our business and our customers.
Glad to be of help Mike. Persistance was the main point I was trying to get over. It may well be that they dont currently have a budget for a maintenance programme. However staying in touch until the next budget review, helping them submit a proposal for the service and finally them coming to you as they have funding is the key.
The shoe sending is one of Brian Philbins tricks, not mine. Remember I am 6'4" and Scottish. That means I have size 12 feet. Imagine the cost of sending those in the post!
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I learnt not to travel 2.5 hours with Billy after he's had a night of drinking Guiness!
The Dr. Surgery one was good - I missed the shoe one though??
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I love a good stat: did you know a wool carpet can hold upto 15% of the moisture in a room and that's before it's been cleaned.
I love to talk pricing with people not my own pricing but theirs and how they came to their figure and how they sold it to the customer to get the job a few little nuggets came around to change or alter my own slant on pricing.
Shaun
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Solutions are not well liked somebody put the video up ::)roll
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Jamie
Thats Odd I am 6ft 5 but only have size 10 ft :'(
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Jamie
Thats Odd I am 6ft 5 but only have size 10 ft :'(
ah but you are not Scottish my friend ;D
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Solutions are not well liked somebody put the video up ::)roll
Nick was damn good to you once Steve, correct me if I am wrong but didn't he pass quite a lot of work to you?
Also remember in the dim and distant past you were singing his praises and saying how much you were earning because of things he had taught you and the products you used to buy off him.
Get over yourself, leave it alone and grow up.
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Just talking to a few of the guys watching Dave immersion cleaning rugs was great but most of all to put my prices up if franchises can charge top dollar so can I and cut myself into 2 for next year feel I missed a lot
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I learnt many things this weekend dont follow a sat nav and be a smart ass and turn a 1 mile journey into a 6 mile journey and go round in a circle 4 times.
When the bell rings to get in a q for a hog roast sprint as cc s seem to leg it to the food.
On a more serious not i found all aspects covered to be very usefull alloy marketin s talk on seo was very interesting.
Paul did a very good leather restoration demo which was easy to understand
I enjoyed seeing the nu life demo and the sytems they use.
Prob the best tips i picked up and wanted to learn about were cleaning rug fringes correctly
So much to see and learn could of easily taken 2 days
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John Kelly and Richard from chemspec showed some forgers and talked about treating doctors surgeries and offices against communicable deseases and how there are companies making big money going into offices on a monthly basis and just fogging them. An investment of £400 for a fogger and £20 of chemical and they are earning silly money.
This also interested me alot, always a pleasure talking to Richard aswell a very knowledgeable guy.
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Solutions are not well liked somebody put the video up ::)roll
Nick was damn good to you once Steve, correct me if I am wrong but didn't he pass quite a lot of work to you?
Also remember in the dim and distant past you were singing his praises and saying how much you were earning because of things he had taught you and the products you used to buy off him.
Get over yourself, leave it alone and grow up.
Get your facts right before coming on here all high and mighty you know nothing of the dealings I had with Nick,I actually visited Nick last year to bury the hatchet and things are good between the 2 of us.
It wasn't me having a pop at Solutions at the show this time so crawl back into your hole
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Richard is a very approachable guy one of the gentlemen of our industry, actually recommends other people's products if they are better suited to your needs.
Shaun
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Solutions are not well liked somebody put the video up ::)roll
Nick was damn good to you once Steve, correct me if I am wrong but didn't he pass quite a lot of work to you?
Also remember in the dim and distant past you were singing his praises and saying how much you were earning because of things he had taught you and the products you used to buy off him.
Get over yourself, leave it alone and grow up.
Get your facts right before coming on here all high and mighty you know nothing of the dealings I had with Nick,I actually visited Nick last year to bury the hatchet and things are good between the 2 of us.
It wasn't me having a pop at Solutions at the show this time so crawl back into your hole
Then why stir crap where it wasn't needed. You are always the first to have a pop at Solutions.
Put your dummy back in.
Are you saying you never championed Solutions and Nick never gave you any (very well ) paid work?
Answer that truthfully and I will gladly crawl back in my hole. Talk crap and you'll get some back.
Grow up Steve.
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Solutions are not well liked somebody put the video up ::)roll
Nick was damn good to you once Steve, correct me if I am wrong but didn't he pass quite a lot of work to you?
Also remember in the dim and distant past you were singing his praises and saying how much you were earning because of things he had taught you and the products you used to buy off him.
Get over yourself, leave it alone and grow up.
Get your facts right before coming on here all high and mighty you know nothing of the dealings I had with Nick,I actually visited Nick last year to bury the hatchet and things are good between the 2 of us.
It wasn't me having a pop at Solutions at the show this time so crawl back into your hole
Then why stir crap where it wasn't needed. You are always the first to have a pop at Solutions.
Put your dummy back in.
Are you saying you never championed Solutions and Nick never gave you any (very well ) paid work?
Answer that truthfully and I will gladly crawl back in my hole. Talk crap and you'll get some back.
Grow up Steve.
I'll answer your question truthfully had 1 job in Manchester which paid well,1 in Bradford which cost me money that's it. Yes I championed Nick until I saw through all the b/s.
I'm continuing to run a successful business without Solutions reverted back to chemspec products which are top notch products and work well
Thanks for your interest in my business
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........oh just remembered. I also learned, from Billy -YES Billy, not to drink with Peter Maybury
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Back to the original question I learnt that releasit is more economical than dynamall. The new electric t/m from woodbridge is better than I anticipated and fits into a berlingo
http://www.wcsuk.com/cleaning-machines/carpet-cleaning-machines/truckmount-machines-and-accessories/truckmount-machines/mytee-escape-electric-truckmount.html
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No interest in your business or you whatsoever.
Just bored of your constant anti Nick and anti Solutions sniping where there is no need.
If this is how you "bury the hatchet" with someone then you are a very sad man indeed.
Now crawl into YOUR hole, grow up and get over yourself. You really are boring, humourless and so predictable.
Carry on Steve, anyone with half a brain saw your posts many many years ago.
Would have wriitten to you on Facebook rather than a public forum but deleted you off there a long time ago as well.
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No interest in your business or you whatsoever.
Just bored of your constant anti Nick and anti Solutions sniping where there is no need.
If this is how you "bury the hatchet" with someone then you are a very sad man indeed.
Now crawl into YOUR hole, grow up and get over yourself. You really are boring, humourless and so predictable.
Carry on Steve, anyone with half a brain saw your posts many many years ago.
Would have wriitten to you on Facebook rather than a public forum but deleted you off there a long time ago as well.
Bye then :-*
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Doubt its a "bye".
Speak next time you are crying and stirring about Solutions.
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Doubt its a "bye".
Speak next time you are crying and stirring about Solutions.
Just let it go man people will start talking ::)roll
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get a room you two.... :-* :-*
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get a room you two.... :-* :-*
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See :-*
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How well did the woodbridge etm perform? Ive seen it running close up and it looked powerful but did not see it running down any length of hose. The weekend sounded amazng and gutted I could not make it.
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Well I couldn't make it to the TACCA day, but one thing I've just learned is how funny it is when two grown men have a tiff on a cleaning forum.
Especially when one is based on an 80's film and the other looks to be based on an 80's band ;D
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At 50ft it seemed very powerful don't know what it would be like with longer lengths but the downside using longer lengths would be you need longer electric cables running to the property which could be a problem
I'm not having a tiff simply replying to questions asked.He wasn't even there but if he wants I could give him a list of names who were in the room having a pop at his mate I wasn't even in the room I was getting the organisers some drinks in the bar so missed it all ;D
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What did I learn?
Chem Dry do inventory checks so they're not going to be happy with one person!
A lot of people have a problem with one supplier
For a bunch of individuals we can collectively group together when needed
All things said, we are a generous bunch of guys
Some could enter the All England talking championships
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What did I learn?
Chem Dry do inventory checks so they're not going to be happy with one person!
A lot of people have a problem with one supplier
For a bunch of individuals we can collectively group together when needed
All things said, we are a generous bunch of guys
Some could enter the All England talking championships
Don't Garyj will be after you ;D
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At 50ft it seemed very powerful don't know what it would be like with longer lengths but the downside using longer lengths would be you need longer electric cables running to the property which could be a problem
I'm not having a tiff simply replying to questions asked.He wasn't even there but if he wants I could give him a list of names who were in the room having a pop at his mate I wasn't even in the room I was getting the organisers some drinks in the bar so missed it all ;D
You say leave it then carry on!
So something happened when neither of us were there. One of us decided to use that as an excuse to have a pop where it wasn't needed and wasn't warranted. Why else ask for what must be a defamatory video to be published. Haven't you the guts to do it yourself or do you need a minion to do it for you? Are you hoping to go back to the days when you had and needed a little gang to back you up? Pathetic.
You decided to stir some crap even though you claim you have buried the hatchet.
And now you make an assumption me and Nick are mates, why don't you just come clean and admit what your post is really about? As you said, you have buried the hatchet with Nick so I can only assume you have an ulterior motive ;).
You are a bully Steve, plain and simple.
I'll await your no doubt eloquent reply with baited breath ::)roll
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What did I learn?
Chem Dry do inventory checks so they're not going to be happy with one person!
A lot of people have a problem with one supplier
For a bunch of individuals we can collectively group together when needed
All things said, we are a generous bunch of guys
Some could enter the All England talking championships
Don't Garyj will be after you ;D
See, you can't leave it and yet again are looking for back up.
Boring and predictable as always.
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At 50ft it seemed very powerful don't know what it would be like with longer lengths but the downside using longer lengths would be you need longer electric cables running to the property which could be a problem
I'm not having a tiff simply replying to questions asked.He wasn't even there but if he wants I could give him a list of names who were in the room having a pop at his mate I wasn't even in the room I was getting the organisers some drinks in the bar so missed it all ;D
You say leave it then carry on!
So something happened when neither of us were there. One of us decided to use that as an excuse to have a pop where it wasn't needed and wasn't warranted. Why else ask for what must be a defamatory video to be published. Haven't you the guts to do it yourself or do you need a minion to do it for you? Are you hoping to go back to the days when you had and needed a little gang to back you up? Pathetic.
You decided to stir some crap even though you claim you have buried the hatchet.
And now you make an assumption me and Nick are mates, why don't you just come clean and admit what your post is really about? As you said, you have buried the hatchet with Nick so I can only assume you have an ulterior motive ;).
You are a bully Steve, plain and simple.
I'll await your no doubt eloquent reply with baited breath ::)roll
Yet the keyboard warrior carries on, I don't have a little gang I can look after myself when I say I wasn't in the room I should mention it was when the incident occurred only heard about the video after the event never saw one but given the cheering that was going on and the talk of who would be first to upload video.I saw a still picture but that is all.All my details are on my website if you want to continue your bullying in private I await your call
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Do you want me to call you now?
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if you want
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the keyboard warrior carries on
I thought he looked more like Limahl than Howard Jones :)
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LOL, talks crap as well.
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Bit hard to talk to someone when they hang up.
Hilarious.
You have my number now, call anytime.
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We weren't getting anywhere you have your theory about me and I have mine about you plus the break had finished on tv
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As new to the game I gained some knowledge about Marble, Leather, encap,stains, a very enjoyable day, lots of hard work had gone into the venue well done to the organisers. A very worthwhile trip sorry could not stay for the roast.Many thanks to all for the advice.
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Derek
Next year get the hog roasted earlier ;D
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In between filming and taking photographs i did manage to have a good look at the ETM supplied by Woodbridge.
Its pretty compact and not a bad looking unit, im not convinced the gas fired heater is a great idea as all it will do is heat the water before it enters the pump so by the time it reaches the end of the line the water would be cool.
It was interesting watching the faces of TM owners when they put their hands over the end of the vac hose!
Liked watching Dave power washing the rugs outside, here's a guy who is totally confident in what he does...
I now have an interest in leather restoration... ;)
Discovered how to clean your toilet without using bleach or vim ;D
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Is the burner too small Russ ?
would be good to have a storage tank plumbed to the van cooling system like bane .. and then the heater perhaps ... or just a big diesel heater ?
might get away with an electrical inline in some places .
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Russ this type of heating system works well for window cleaners all be it at 100psi the guy said the machine doesn't dump hot water like t/ms and they had the demo one set to 60 degrees but I don't think they fired the heater up
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It was a caravan water heater, I posted 6months ago a video of one I tried. It needs a bypass system of returning preheated water into a water box so when you let go of the wand trigger it keeps fired up and returns the water into a holding tank.
If you could feed the heater with warm water you could achieve higher temps. 60degrees is not hot enough, it will cool to much by the time it gets to the wand.
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Anyone thinking of buying the ETM would seriously need to think about how practical it would be given the variety of locations it is likely to be used in, purely from the perspective of feeding it power. A first or second floor apartment where you can only take the power from the apartment which could be 100 feet from the entrance? EOT's with no power in them. Places where you cannot park near to the building. At least with a comparable portable you can take the machine to the job.
Nice looking piece of kit though.
Simon
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Anyone thinking of buying the ETM would seriously need to think about how practical it would be given the variety of locations it is likely to be used in, purely from the perspective of feeding it power. A first or second floor apartment where you can only take the power from the apartment which could be 100 feet from the entrance? EOT's with no power in them. Places where you cannot park near to the building. At least with a comparable portable you can take the machine to the job.
Nice looking piece of kit though.
Simon
You have a good point Simon and this is one of the reasons i opted for a porty which can be van mounted or (most of the time) removed and taken to the location.
There is no doubt at all that this machine is powerful, the heating system to me looks totally inefficient and pointless, the easiest way to heat the water without having to run another cable to the van would be to use a little giant LPG in line heater which should produce post-pump hot steaming water.
I know this isnt the thread to do a full review about the machine, but if i am honest i thought it looked a little cheap and flimsy for all that cash, the recovery tank was also tiny so you are totally relying on the auto dump and auto de foam to work... the cost to replace 4 vacs would break your heart!
ETM's still need to be developed to compete with regular TM's... but they are getting there...
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There is also an issue of dumping waste water in the street for which you can get a massive fine.
Another potential issue is running two power cords into the street - indeed running two power cords to any machine is illegally, or so I was told on Saturday.
Simon
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So were do tm owners dump there waste water and do you need a licence to carry it
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I learned loads the other day, not only did I get some quality 1 on 1 rug cleaning with both Dave and Paul I watched Paul transform some battered old leather pieces within hours. Never been interested in Leather restoration but now I am.
I got some tips regarding improving turnover from Dave L which I have started to put into place today so straight away earning from the day.
To me though it's just more about seeing old and new faces and swapping tips/stories between us all.
Fantastic day but walking for hours to find a night club or open pub gone midnight just to return to the hotel room and drink decaffinated coffee and ovaltine needs addressing!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Correct Andy you just couldn't get a late drink :'( del
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I learned loads the other day, not only did I get some quality 1 on 1 rug cleaning with both Dave and Paul I watched Paul transform some battered old leather pieces within hours. Never been interested in Leather restoration but now I am.
I got some tips regarding improving turnover from Dave L which I have started to put into place today so straight away earning from the day.
To me though it's just more about seeing old and new faces and swapping tips/stories between us all.
Fantastic day but walking for hours to find a night club or open pub gone midnight just to return to the hotel room and drink decaffinated coffee and ovaltine needs addressing!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
"pizza for will lane!!!, PIZZA FOR WILL LANE!!!" pmsl
i didn't really have time to watch the trainers but me and the wife had some good chats with attendee's, shaun ashmore and max/ollie campbell gave us some nice food for thought which we have adapted and been implementing today.
the thing is, its not that you don't think of the idea its just hearing it from someone who does it and is successful is motivation to try it yourself. if you see what i mean, hard to explain.
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Never to go looking for a pub with Andy ;D or deliver him a pizza
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We went to the relish tandori glad i put the bog roll in the fridge before i went to bed
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This style/type of day was started by Dave L and me for one reason only, the posts above say it all but basicaly the one thing every body should take away from a day like this is CONFIDENCE TO HAVE A GO.
To many guys go on courses and are still s hit scarred to have ago incase they cock something up. By watching guys doing it live in a easy to do style giving tips and tricks is the way that gives them the confidence and a bit of fire in their belly to try it and progress their business. ;). Glad you all had a great weekend, i did. :)
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Spot on, fortune favours the brave!
Think it was Billy who had fir in is belly and Ash up his behind.
Shaun
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Spot on, fortune favours the brave!
Think it was Billy who had fir in is belly and Ash up his behind.
Shaun
Shaun think bert and ernie mis understood the term hands on weekend
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Typo , fire ;D
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I learnt that a Journey can take three hour longer when they shut the motorway for a few junctions :-)
and Fogging could be a good earner
Cheers Tony
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Spot on, fortune favours the brave!
Think it was Billy who had fir in is belly and Ash up his behind.
Shaun
Shaun think bert and ernie mis understood the term hands on weekend
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i put 2 things into practice what i learned at the weekend
1) i saw a rug with a mark on it and left it as i wasn't supposed to clean it. thank you andy ;D
2) for regulars i normally charge £1 a minute, was called in to clean a regulars letting property, proper minger, small 2 bed empty. took me 1 hour and 20 mins start to finish, cracking job, charged £140. i know i'm not there yet but that was brave for me, thank you shaun ashmore.
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Derek
how do I become a member of tacca ? I filled in the online form some time ago,
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i did send you an email tony but got no reply, email me derek@affordablecleaners.co.uk and i'll sort it.
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Was that meant for me or Tony
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sorry stuart, i know too many tony clarks, ;D so yeah i meant you tony, i mean stuart ;D
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Actually my middle name is Tony ! Honest
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I should have tried harder at school as most carpet cleaners are very poor. These events are like government backed job clubs.
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they only had the TACCA day on a saturday so that it caused no disruption to those of us that have to sign on.
Peter
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Poor....I could write a book on being poor I just can't afford a pen and paper!
Shaun
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You could afford a pen Shaun because you could get the money back from renting it to your kids ;) del