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Title: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on April 26, 2013, 09:38:29 pm
Does anyone know if there's a brush for water fed pole that's specifically designed for cleaning cars?
I do my own with normal brushes but I wouldn't want to risk it on someone elses car in case I damaged the paint work
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: windiewasher on April 26, 2013, 09:46:33 pm
Does anyone know if there's a brush for water fed pole that's specifically designed for cleaning cars?
I do my own with normal brushes but I wouldn't want to risk it on someone elses car in case I damaged the paint work
Vikan do some m8
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: Lee GLS on April 26, 2013, 09:48:04 pm
Does anyone know if there's a brush for water fed pole that's specifically designed for cleaning cars?
I do my own with normal brushes but I wouldn't want to risk it on someone elses car in case I damaged the paint work


gardiners have an economy brush for cladding and vehicles, its only £15 and works really well
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: A-W-C on April 26, 2013, 09:53:02 pm
I have the vikan hi-low brush and also the gardiners cladding brush,both brushes are great but i prefer the vikan for vehicle cleaning the gardiners brush is perfect on upvc  ;)
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on April 26, 2013, 09:54:17 pm
Thanks, I will check these out
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on April 26, 2013, 09:58:18 pm
Excuse my ignorance, what does it mean if a brush is flagged or unflagged?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: A-W-C on April 26, 2013, 10:09:54 pm
Flagged is when the end of the bristles have been split to make them softer so less chance if scratching usually used for vehicle cleaning and on plastics etc
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: Scrimble on April 26, 2013, 10:10:18 pm
you shouldnt use a brush to wash a car with, you with scratch the paintwork

if you couldnt care less about your vehicle then prob best to use the cheapest brush you can find
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: A-W-C on April 26, 2013, 10:40:28 pm
you shouldnt use a brush to wash a car with, you with scratch the paintwork

if you couldnt care less about your vehicle then prob best to use the cheapest brush you can find

Oh ye you are right cuz vikan are wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: CleanClear on April 26, 2013, 10:49:38 pm
http://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/vikan-brush-11-with-pencil-jet-1059-p.asp

THis is the brush you want for cleaning cars, rubber edging and flocked (or flagged) soft bristles.
Thats what i use.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: home6442 on April 26, 2013, 11:09:49 pm
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: rosskesava on April 26, 2013, 11:38:07 pm
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

I'll remember that when when I clean my 6 year old van that's done 160 000 miles and get used almost every day.

Wax, what wax?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: Fin Clearview on April 26, 2013, 11:47:04 pm
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

Excuse my ignorance but why would it do that?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: ben M on April 27, 2013, 12:09:11 am
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.
???
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: windiewasher on April 27, 2013, 12:28:03 am
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.
Really :o
we better stop cleaning windows with filtered water too :o
Never thought of that waterbased paint,does that mean you will wash it off ???
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on April 27, 2013, 12:37:31 am
 ;D  ;D  ;D

Some people.

So what happens when you go through a car wash and the paint gets the poop knocked out of it with those 10' bushes?

Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: rosskesava on April 27, 2013, 12:47:23 am
Some times when it rains, depending on the weather conditions, rain can have a tds as low as 15 which is for all intent and purposes, pure water.

If you are then driving at 70 mph, wouldn't that be worse on the paintwork than just cleaning with pure water on your driveway or where ever?

And wouldn't the car and van manufacturers have researched that in terms of the 'water based paint'?

My van, which has been scrubbed weekly for nearly 6 years with pure water using a Vikan made for vehicles brush, still has paint work and no rust.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: deeege on April 27, 2013, 06:31:06 am
;D  ;D  ;D

Some people.

So what happens when you go through a car wash and the paint gets the poop knocked out of it with those 10' bushes?



What happens is you end up with loads of tiny swirly scratches on the bodywork of your car. Anyone who looks after their vehicle will use a hand car wash and avoid the automatic one (or preferably wash it themselves)

Also, on the automatic car washes the final blast of vapour that you drive through is purified water, obviously to stop it spotting when it dries. Does this also wash off the cars wax John?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: Mike #1 on April 27, 2013, 07:01:29 am
you shouldnt use a brush to wash a car with, you with scratch the paintwork

if you couldnt care less about your vehicle then prob best to use the cheapest brush you can find

Totally agree you can and will scratch the paintwork on cars my truck is scratched to bits from using local garage jetwash and it causes fine scratches which can be seen in sunlight and my truck paint work looks a mess .

Try getting someone to sign a scratch waiver for cleaning their car  ;D ;D . Mike

Thought this was window cleaning forum anyway not a detailing forum

Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: rg1 on April 27, 2013, 08:13:22 am
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

Remind me not to take my car out when it rains.  ???
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: dazmond on April 27, 2013, 08:28:39 am
i use a vikan brush i originally bought for window cleaning.i converted a short unger optiloc pole into a wfp.

i clean both my van and car with it usually once a week with pure.

in fact ill be cleaning both vehicles after work today.

i wouldnt clean anybodys elses cars/vans with it though for the chief reason is i cant be bothered!i make acceptions and clean my girlfriends car though from time to time!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: Dave Willis on April 27, 2013, 09:41:26 am
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

That's why I never drive in the rain.
It burns your eyes
Dissolves your skin
Rots your van
Sterilizes your windows
Eats algae
Strips your innards if you drink it
Burns through your t shirt

Just some of the crap I've read on here.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: Dave Willis on April 27, 2013, 09:59:22 am
Gardiners cladding brush looks interesting - not seen it before. Anyone got one?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: rg1 on April 27, 2013, 10:05:47 am
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

That's why I never drive in the rain.
It burns your eyes
Dissolves your skin
Rots your van
Sterilizes your windows
Eats algae
Strips your innards if you drink it
Burns through your t shirt

Just some of the crap I've read on here.

So none of these things are true then?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on April 27, 2013, 10:49:47 am
My original question was asking if there is a brush 'specifically' for car cleaning, but none of the ones suggested are being sold as a car cleaning brush so there is a chance that they would indeed scratch a cars paint work.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: CleanClear on April 27, 2013, 11:18:15 am
My original question was asking if there is a brush 'specifically' for car cleaning, but none of the ones suggested are being sold as a car cleaning brush so there is a chance that they would indeed scratch a cars paint work.

Vikan brush, sold as a car cleaning brush to go on the Vikan Car cleaning pole system.
http://r.ebay.com/jhh7pn

Looks familiar?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: rg1 on April 27, 2013, 11:20:20 am
My original question was asking if there is a brush 'specifically' for car cleaning, but none of the ones suggested are being sold as a car cleaning brush so there is a chance that they would indeed scratch a cars paint work.

Or here: http://www.vehicle-cleaning-brushes.co.uk/buy-vikan-brushes.html

Take your pick  ;)
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on April 27, 2013, 01:32:57 pm
My original question was asking if there is a brush 'specifically' for car cleaning, but none of the ones suggested are being sold as a car cleaning brush so there is a chance that they would indeed scratch a cars paint work.

Vikan brush, sold as a car cleaning brush to go on the Vikan Car cleaning pole system.
http://r.ebay.com/jhh7pn

Looks familiar?


Thanks mate
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: rg1 on April 27, 2013, 01:47:05 pm
My original question was asking if there is a brush 'specifically' for car cleaning, but none of the ones suggested are being sold as a car cleaning brush so there is a chance that they would indeed scratch a cars paint work.

Vikan brush, sold as a car cleaning brush to go on the Vikan Car cleaning pole system.
http://r.ebay.com/jhh7pn

Looks familiar?


Thanks mate

Same brush cheaper here: http://www.vehicle-cleaning-brushes.co.uk/buy-vikan-brushes.html
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: oldman on April 28, 2013, 05:25:38 am
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

IDIOT  ::)roll.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: dd on April 28, 2013, 09:24:40 am
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

That's why I never drive in the rain.
It burns your eyes
Dissolves your skin
Rots your van
Sterilizes your windows
Eats algae
Strips your innards if you drink it
Burns through your t shirt

Just some of the crap I've read on here.

So none of these things are true then?
I have found pure water makes holes in cotton t-shirts and destroys scrims if you wash them in it regularly. It also dries your hands more than ordinary water as it absorbs the oils from your skin more.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: home6442 on April 29, 2013, 12:20:22 am
For all the muppets who still think water passed through  D I resin is the same as
rain why don't you take a drink of it.
Cleaning your car with filtered water will remove the wax leaving the paint open to
damage from the sun and bird muck.
 
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: home6442 on April 29, 2013, 12:22:24 am
Warning don't drink D I water I know there are people here stupid enough
to do it.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: windiewasher on April 29, 2013, 12:34:14 am
Warning don't drink D I water I know there are people here stupid enough
to do it.
Its done me no harm. :-*
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: rosskesava on April 29, 2013, 12:45:09 am
Warning don't drink D I water I know there are people here stupid enough
to do it.

Ion exchange resin is non toxic.

DI water, if drunk, will soon mix with god knows what in the stomach and become very impure very quickly.

On each packet of resin there are NO health warning are there? If DI water was that toxic to drink, don't you think that all the WFP companies would mention that?
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: home6442 on April 29, 2013, 12:59:54 am
Strange on the bag I bought it said not to get in contact with your skin.

Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: robert mitchell on April 29, 2013, 07:18:29 am
Di resin is carcinogenic so prob no short term risk but long term , who knows .

 Ro Water is fine to drink.
 A lot of car washes use pure water to rinse , it wont harm your paintwork wether its water based or not .
The brushes can scratch your car if they pick up bits of dirt but then again so csn sponges .
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: wfp master on April 29, 2013, 01:05:01 pm
For all the muppets who still think water passed through  D I resin is the same as
rain why don't you take a drink of it.
Cleaning your car with filtered water will remove the wax leaving the paint open to
damage from the sun and bird muck.
interesting
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: oldman on April 29, 2013, 03:33:03 pm
For all the muppets who still think water passed through  D I resin is the same as
rain why don't you take a drink of it.
Cleaning your car with filtered water will remove the wax leaving the paint open to
damage from the sun and bird muck.
 

Only one muppet on this thread......and it aint me  ;).
Filtered water will not remove the wax on a car......Duh!  ::)roll.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: dd on April 29, 2013, 04:51:15 pm
I was advised by a supplier of water purification equipment that it was OK to use pure water as a final rinse process but not to use it to actually wash the car as it does tend to strip the wax.

After you have washed car with solution that normally leaves behind some sort of protective barrier then rinsing of the suds is OK.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: luther1 on April 29, 2013, 05:25:13 pm
Wouldn't use filtered water to clean cars.
It will remove any protective wax and might damage some of
the water based paint that's now used on new cars and vans.

You couldn't be more wrong. Base coat is water based,lacquer isn't. Nearly all cars are lacquered and even if they weren't they have been oven baked so wfp would be no different to rain.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: oldman on April 29, 2013, 06:03:36 pm
I was advised by a supplier of water purification equipment that it was OK to use pure water as a final rinse process but not to use it to actually wash the car as it does tend to strip the wax.

After you have washed car with solution that normally leaves behind some sort of protective barrier then rinsing of the suds is OK.

Your supplier is is talking nonsense.
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: HampshireWindowCleaning on April 29, 2013, 11:30:45 pm
There seems to be quite a split in opinion as to wether it's safe to clean cars with wfp's and pure water, not really what I was hoping for as i'm none the wiser
Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: home6442 on April 29, 2013, 11:57:08 pm
I was asked to clean a few touring caravans and because I own one myself
know that the paint can be easily damaged.
So decided to do a bit of online research and from what I read decided it wasn't worth the risk.
If filtered water can damage certain metals and some plastics then what chance would car paint
have.
Like all the guys who posted here I am no expert on filtered water or car paints.
Your best option is to check it out for yourself elsewhere and then decide.
Plenty of info out there.


Title: Re: Car cleaning brush?
Post by: luther1 on April 30, 2013, 08:08:45 am
I worked as a paint sprayer for ten years before becoming a window cleaner and its a fact that if you use the correct brush pirified water will not damage the paint or plastic. There are even car washes now that use pure water now with a superb ro setup.