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Title: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: STEVE-UK on April 18, 2013, 06:13:57 pm
Has anyone got the new Fibredyne pre filter, Can they be fitted to a standard pre filter housing?

http://gapswater.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_Reverse_osmosis_kits.html
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: STEVE-UK on April 19, 2013, 07:38:37 am
they have just been listed on the gardiners website under new products and it says they can be used with standard pre filter housing,

One thing it doesnt say on gardiners site is that having less filters to go through increases the pressure to your 4040 ro making it more efficient

Ive Just ordered one   ;)
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 07:46:19 am
they have just been listed on the gardiners website under new products and it says they can be used with standard pre filter housing,

One thing it doesnt say on gardiners site is that having less filters to go through increases the pressure to your 4040 ro making it more efficient

Ive Just ordered one   ;)

Duly noted and added - this is a very good point and another reason why these filters will probably replace the use of standard filters completely within the window cleaning  industry. Wish I had invented them  :) I will also be putting a PDF download on the site with the technical stuff and microscopic photos of the structure - they really are very clever.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: chez on April 19, 2013, 08:58:23 am
Do you still have to change them at the regular 3 monthly intervals as you do with the ordinary sediment/carbon filters?
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 08:03:20 pm
Do you still have to change them at the regular 3 monthly intervals as you do with the ordinary sediment/carbon filters?

They would generally last about 3 times longer than a standard triple pack of budget pre-filters. So if you use about 400 litres of water per day on a 4 day week on a 50/50 reject RO Ratio you would need to change this single pre-filter every 24 weeks which is nearly 6 months. In the same time you would have needed to change your average triple pack of budget filters (20,000 litre life) 4 times.

These filters really will save money in use and also will save on carriage charges as only one filter needs sending out once instead of 3 filter sending out 3 times.

To use in a standard 3 canister pre-filter RO unit simply take out all 3 pre-filters on the next change and screw back up two of the canisters empty and fit this single filter in the 3rd canister - then change after 75,000 litres. During this time you will also benefit from higher flow rates and less clogging which could save you further money on resin use as the RO could  be performing at a better efficiency.

Clever chaps these people from Pentair.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: ben M on April 19, 2013, 08:21:23 pm
Look great!
Alex, i have 2 pre- filters before my RO 4040, one 5 micron sediment and one carbon block filter
what do i have to do when i buy this filter?
Thanks
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 08:24:17 pm
Look great!
Alex, i have 2 pre- filters before my RO 4040, one 5 micron sediment and one carbon block filter
what do i have to do when i buy this filter?
Thanks

You would remove both of your old filters and then re-fit one of the canisters empty and the other with one of these filters - if it is the 20" versions you would get about 152,000 litres of life from it. Based on the previous figures that would be nearly a year between changes. Of course this would depend on your actual usage and RO waste ratio.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: ben M on April 19, 2013, 08:36:23 pm
Thank you Alex. I have 10'' versions, i will put a 5 micron sediment first then your new filter, what do you think?
i will order it with my new clamps  ;)
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 08:39:38 pm
Thank you Alex. I have 10'' versions, i will put a 5 micron sediment first then your new filter, what do you think?
i will order it with my new clamps  ;)

Hi Ben

There is no need to put a sediment filter first as these new Fibredyne filters are a combined sediment and carbon filter in one - hence the improved savings and water flow efficiency.

Just leave your first canister empty (or remove) and fit this single filter as your only pre-filter before the RO.

Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: ben M on April 19, 2013, 08:49:17 pm
of course, sorry i didn't read properly, you said re-fit one of the canisters empty
So now from Gardiner pole systems you get better poles,better clamps,better filters, Can i get a better wife from your company?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Only joking, i love her, 6 year anniversary today  :)

Many thanks for your help Alex

 
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 08:59:29 pm
of course, sorry i didn't read properly, you said re-fit one of the canisters empty
So now from Gardiner pole systems you get better poles,better clamps,better filters, Can i get a better wife from your company?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Only joking, i love her, 6 year anniversary today  :)

Many thanks for your help Alex

 

Congratulations to you and your wife - well done.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 19, 2013, 09:04:40 pm
This is why I frequent this forum, there is always something new and better. Will order soon.

Thanks Alex.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: ben M on April 19, 2013, 09:06:51 pm
of course, sorry i didn't read properly, you said re-fit one of the canisters empty
So now from Gardiner pole systems you get better poles,better clamps,better filters, Can i get a better wife from your company?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Only joking, i love her, 6 year anniversary today  :)

Many thanks for your help Alex

 

Congratulations to you and your wife - well done.
Thank you. Congratulations to her, not easy every day to live with a French man... ;)
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: ben M on April 19, 2013, 09:07:27 pm
This is why I frequent this forum, there is always something new and better. Will order soon.

Thanks Alex.
+1
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Dani J on April 19, 2013, 09:08:07 pm
Alex just bought one from you, but the price jumped from £38.00  to £54.90  :o  :)

i think its better if you show the price including V.A.T. and postage  ;)
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 09:16:02 pm
Alex just bought one from you, but the price jumped from £38.00  to £54.90  :o  :)

i think its better if you show the price including V.A.T. and postage  ;)

All of the prices always have (Excluding VAT charge at 20%). If you order over £45 in goods (not inc. VAT) then the postage is free in mainland UK.

If you add something else to the order (+£7.01 or more) we can knock off the delivery charge for you on this order. Just let me know if you would like to do this and I will get the office to ring you on Monday and arrange.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Dani J on April 19, 2013, 09:22:01 pm
Alex just bought one from you, but the price jumped from £38.00  to £54.90  :o  :)

i think its better if you show the price including V.A.T. and postage  ;)

All of the prices always have (Excluding VAT charge at 20%). If you order over £45 in goods (not inc. VAT) then the postage is free in mainland UK.

If you add something else to the order (+£7.01 or more) we can knock off the delivery charge for you on this order. Just let me know if you would like to do this and I will get the office to ring you on Monday and arrange.

Sorry Alex i have already done it now, perhaps one those nice caps come with this order  ;)
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 09:22:55 pm
Alex just bought one from you, but the price jumped from £38.00  to £54.90  :o  :)

i think its better if you show the price including V.A.T. and postage  ;)

All of the prices always have (Excluding VAT charge at 20%). If you order over £45 in goods (not inc. VAT) then the postage is free in mainland UK.

If you add something else to the order (+£7.01 or more) we can knock off the delivery charge for you on this order. Just let me know if you would like to do this and I will get the office to ring you on Monday and arrange.

Sorry Alex i have already done it now, perhaps one those nice caps come with this order  ;)

Perhaps it will  ;)
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 09:28:59 pm
they have just been listed on the gardiners website under new products and it says they can be used with standard pre filter housing,

One thing it doesnt say on gardiners site is that having less filters to go through increases the pressure to your 4040 ro making it more efficient

Ive Just ordered one   ;)

Just a point the Fibredyne filters on our website are the higher capacity Fibredyne-CFBC versions which have about 60% more filtering capacity than the lower specification CFB-Plus ones that you have linked to on the Gaps website.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: windiewasher on April 20, 2013, 12:04:04 am
Do you still have to change them at the regular 3 monthly intervals as you do with the ordinary sediment/carbon filters?

They would generally last about 3 times longer than a standard triple pack of budget pre-filters. So if you use about 400 litres of water per day on a 4 day week on a 50/50 reject RO Ratio you would need to change this single pre-filter every 24 weeks which is nearly 6 months. In the same time you would have needed to change your average triple pack of budget filters (20,000 litre life) 4 times.


These filters really will save money in use and also will save on carriage charges as only one filter needs sending out once instead of 3 filter sending out 3 times.

To use in a standard 3 canister pre-filter RO unit simply take out all 3 pre-filters on the next change and screw back up two of the canisters empty and fit this single filter in the 3rd canister - then change after 75,000 litres. During this time you will also benefit from higher flow rates and less clogging which could save you further money on resin use as the RO could  be performing at a better efficiency.

Clever chaps these people from Pentair.

So i can just buy one of these filters instead of the 3 normal pre filters?
That sounds great.
Also alex has the pole hose come out yet that you mentioned?
Thanks
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Lee GLS on April 20, 2013, 08:59:32 am
Alex. Are these based on the way the ez pure pre filter works? And do they last longer than the ez pure pre filter.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Lee GLS on April 20, 2013, 09:00:57 am
of course, sorry i didn't read properly, you said re-fit one of the canisters empty
So now from Gardiner pole systems you get better poles,better clamps,better filters, Can i get a better wife from your company?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Only joking, i love her, 6 year anniversary today  :)

Many thanks for your help Alex

 
Congratulations Ben. It's our 11th year today, we are in gran canaria for 2 weeks hence why I can't check the post.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 20, 2013, 09:09:46 am
Do you still have to change them at the regular 3 monthly intervals as you do with the ordinary sediment/carbon filters?

They would generally last about 3 times longer than a standard triple pack of budget pre-filters. So if you use about 400 litres of water per day on a 4 day week on a 50/50 reject RO Ratio you would need to change this single pre-filter every 24 weeks which is nearly 6 months. In the same time you would have needed to change your average triple pack of budget filters (20,000 litre life) 4 times.


These filters really will save money in use and also will save on carriage charges as only one filter needs sending out once instead of 3 filter sending out 3 times.

To use in a standard 3 canister pre-filter RO unit simply take out all 3 pre-filters on the next change and screw back up two of the canisters empty and fit this single filter in the 3rd canister - then change after 75,000 litres. During this time you will also benefit from higher flow rates and less clogging which could save you further money on resin use as the RO could  be performing at a better efficiency.

Clever chaps these people from Pentair.

So i can just buy one of these filters instead of the 3 normal pre filters?
That sounds great.
Also Alex has the pole hose come out yet that you mentioned?
Thanks

Yes this is exactly right. It will also last a lot longer than the 3 pre-filter packs - up to 3x longer.

Yes we have our new PVC/Rubber pole hose in stock now - it is getting a very favorable response from our client base due to its great  flexibility and ease of use.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 20, 2013, 09:13:57 am
Alex. Are these based on the way the ez pure pre filter works? And do they last longer than the ez pure pre filter.

No they are different technologies. The EZ-Pure has a 350,000 litre life simply because it is so big!

The Fibredyne CFBC filters have the following life:

10" = 75,000 litre life
20" = 152,000 litre life

I have also added a pdf showing the differences of the Fibredyne filters over standard carbon block.
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Carbon%20Blocks%20Vs%20Fibredyne.pdf
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: ben M on April 20, 2013, 09:25:42 am
of course, sorry i didn't read properly, you said re-fit one of the canisters empty
So now from Gardiner pole systems you get better poles,better clamps,better filters, Can i get a better wife from your company?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Only joking, i love her, 6 year anniversary today  :)

Many thanks for your help Alex

 
Congratulations Ben. It's our 11th year today, we are in gran canaria for 2 weeks hence why I can't check the post.
Congratulations Lee  :) enjoy your holiday  ;)
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: steveo22 on May 18, 2013, 04:05:38 pm
I've got 2 pre filters before the RO, what happens if I put a Fibredyne filter in each?
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: bobplum on May 18, 2013, 07:57:39 pm
Alex, i would watch out, if everything keeps getting better and lasting longer............you may end up cleaning full time, as your sales volume fall, if you can travel up to chester i can give you two days a week ;) ;D
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 18, 2013, 08:03:12 pm
Alex, i would watch out, if everything keeps getting better and lasting longer............you may end up cleaning full time, as your sales volume fall, if you can travel up to chester i can give you two days a week ;) ;D
;D

I will bear that in mind - thanks.
Title: Re: New Fibredyne pre filters
Post by: ben M on May 19, 2013, 12:06:14 am
I've got 2 pre filters before the RO, what happens if I put a Fibredyne filter in each?
leave the first pre filter empty and put the fibredyne filter on the second one,just before the ro  ;)