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Title: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on April 17, 2013, 03:00:05 pm
For those who have not looked on the site recently!

The New Gardiner Pole Range & Gardiner Clamp Details



Product Overview


New Clamps with the following features:
Adaptive Smart Clamping - no matter how unevenly worn or old the sections get these 'smart clamps' will continue clamping throughout the life of the pole - no more spinning sections
Automatic Tensioning Clamps to provide optimum clamping force on sections at all times
Ergonomic Anatomic clamp levers to offer single thumb actuation - fast & easy left or right handed use.
Delrin® Cam bearing - provides extended more reliable action with simple to replace shims to prolong life of clamp
Sprung Clamp Jaws to provide easier extension and retraction of sections
15% greater clamping area on clamp jaws
15% greater bonding area on clamp bodies
Non-pinch bodies
Catch-Free underside to clamp bodies
Manufactured from high-quality Dupont-Zytel® thermoplastic reinforced nylon
UK Designed & Manufactured for high quality and reliable construction
Utility Patent Applied for in the UK, US, Europe & China
 
New Sections featuring:
Joint Indicator Tape & Overlap Contrasting Section Markers on base of all sections including handles - this will facilitate the addition of extensions quickly and safely
Improved rigidity
Improved internal & external wear resistance
Removable end caps to allow extensions to be added easily
Clamps now more compact on sections - allowing for the most efficient length packaging of any WFP in the world
Maximised lengths on each pole size
All pole sizes will be available with Extension-Packs to increase the range of each pole
Super-Max45 & 50 will feature new High Modulus Carbon to increase rigidty
Super-Max45 & 50 can be extended to 61ft when required

Quality Construction & Maximum Value Built-In
Due to increased efficiencies within the manufacturing & production process and the increased buying power of Gardiner Poles we have been able to improve the quality of our telescopic poles in every aspect whilst being able to make them the best value poles we have ever produced.

Compatible with the widest range of brush & gooseneck accessories available in the water-fed pole market
These new poles have the ability to be used with 18 different lightweight brushes with 100's of jet combinations, 8 carbon goosenecks and an expanding range of QuicK-LoQ gooseneck and tool fittings. No other pole brand has the breadth of fittings available in it's range.

Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 17, 2013, 05:18:48 pm
You obviously have'nt looked on this site lately! Only been posted half a dozen times  :P  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Avo on April 17, 2013, 05:20:49 pm
When they out on release I need another pole!?!?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: 8weekly on April 17, 2013, 05:28:10 pm
Watched the video. They look brilliant. I am no Alex groupie, but I am impressed the way he has focused his efforts on the most frustrating problem with Gardiner's poles. I will be buying a replacement set for my CLx27.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Avo on April 17, 2013, 05:33:15 pm
Just watched it to  :) very nice hey!!!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: jimiwindows on April 17, 2013, 05:47:08 pm
cant find vid
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: elite mike on April 17, 2013, 06:10:10 pm
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-Gardiner-Carbon-Fibre-Pole-Sale-SLXII_Gif.html
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Mike #1 on April 17, 2013, 06:10:25 pm
www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk      got to poles then new CLXII  their is a video of clamps very impressive like them a lot . Mike
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: S.A.J on April 17, 2013, 06:34:49 pm
Here's the vid http://youtu.be/5QE3P6SfJYI

Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: SB Cleaning on April 17, 2013, 06:49:12 pm
Can't wait for these clamps to be released they look the business :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Dave Willis on April 17, 2013, 06:54:08 pm
.................. and the next question for ten bonus points. How does it work?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Fin Clearview on April 17, 2013, 07:05:58 pm
^ beep beep beep first to buzzer - sprung clamp?

Just read the new spec above and it says so, I'm not cheating!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 17, 2013, 07:15:32 pm
what is new? clamp body or clamp lever sets? or both? thanks
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 17, 2013, 07:31:13 pm
i bought a new clamp last week!  >:( >:( >:( only because my pole is worn and wanted to cut off the last inch of the top section! no need anymore with the new clamp  :)
Alex, you should not sell anymore the old clamps, not fair!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: dazmond on April 17, 2013, 07:52:37 pm
i can see my gardiner poles lasting a lot longer with these new clamps!not sure it will be good for a pole seller like alex though!!!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on April 17, 2013, 07:56:48 pm
Alex,

just replaced top 3 clamps on my 3 year old pole 2 months ago,made a massive difference and am well happy,

but being an old pole,not looked after and a bit worn these new clamps are perfect for it.so my question is will we get a bit of a discount on a clamp pack like the boys who recentely bought new poles?

cheers
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 18, 2013, 09:07:14 am
Genious. Will be good for my old MK1 SL-X.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Cliff perkins on April 18, 2013, 05:55:03 pm
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 18, 2013, 05:59:08 pm
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?
they will be.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 18, 2013, 09:53:07 pm
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?

Clamp upgrade kit as well, with instructional video on how to do it.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on April 18, 2013, 09:56:46 pm
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 18, 2013, 10:04:34 pm
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?

Clamp upgrade kit as well, with instructional video on how to do it. No sawing off the old clamps.
how do you know?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Lee GLS on April 18, 2013, 10:11:00 pm
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?

Clamp upgrade kit as well, with instructional video on how to do it. No sawing off the old clamps.
how do you know?

Alex said about this on another forum.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 18, 2013, 10:16:18 pm
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?

Clamp upgrade kit as well, with instructional video on how to do it. No sawing off the old clamps.
how do you know?

Alex said about this on another forum.
thanks Lee. So i could still use your clamp n*1?  ;D
did you get the scrapers?  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 18, 2013, 10:17:37 pm
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?

Clamp upgrade kit as well, with instructional video on how to do it. No sawing off the old clamps.
how do you know?

Alex said about this on another forum.

I think that GQC must have misunderstood an email conversation that we had earlier in the day about this. You do have to saw off the clamps to replace on an older pole, but the video will show how to simply do this without losing any of the pole itself rather than having to completely saw off the end of each section (which can also be done, but loses pole length).

The new clamp bodies will need to directly replace the old clamp bodies in order to get the full operational capabilities of the new clamps.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Deangsi on April 18, 2013, 10:22:37 pm
When will these be released Alex? I need a set for an slx 18 and a set for an slx 22 ;D I could also do with an slx 22bace section with new clamp type also
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 18, 2013, 10:25:48 pm
Thanks Alex. I bought a new clamp last week  :'(  still not used but I will wait the new clamp because my top 2 sections are worn and wanted to saw off the end of each section.
With the new clamp, i don't need to do that anymore  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 18, 2013, 10:37:47 pm
Sorry, must have misunderstood!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 18, 2013, 10:39:00 pm
When will these be released Alex? I need a set for an slx 18 and a set for an slx 22 ;D I could also do with an slx 22bace section with new clamp type also

About 2-3 weeks for the clamp kits as all current production is being sent straight to assembling poles.

You will not need to have a base section from an SLX22 now as we are also releasing a set of extension sections that will do this job. The SLX extension section#5 will do this job - click on the specification chart on the new SLX page to see these extension section details.

Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 18, 2013, 10:41:35 pm
Sorry, must have misunderstood!

May have been my explanation at fault  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 18, 2013, 10:42:19 pm
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 18, 2013, 10:44:46 pm
what else is new? only clamp?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 18, 2013, 10:47:06 pm
what else is new? only clamp?

It's all here - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLXII-NEWPOLES.html
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 18, 2013, 10:53:53 pm
what else is new? only clamp?

It's all here - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLXII-NEWPOLES.html

I have seen that but can you explain more about "improved internal & external wear resistance"
Thanks
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 18, 2013, 10:57:44 pm
what else is new? only clamp?

It's all here - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLXII-NEWPOLES.html

I have seen that but can you explain more about "improved internal & external wear resistance"
Thanks

Drop me an email and I will answer in the morning - bit late for me tonight  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 18, 2013, 10:59:22 pm
One for when you wake up. Will these retro fit the Xtreme poles as well? Just thinking about it, due to the half way clamping points.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 18, 2013, 11:00:39 pm
what else is new? only clamp?

It's all here - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLXII-NEWPOLES.html

I have seen that but can you explain more about "improved internal & external wear resistance"
Thanks

Drop me an email and I will answer in the morning - bit late for me tonight  :)
or you could answer here tomorrow  ;). Good night
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Stephen Fox on April 18, 2013, 11:12:54 pm
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 18, 2013, 11:23:21 pm
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Mr Fox,what do you think about the new gardiner clamp?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 18, 2013, 11:28:57 pm
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Mr Fox,what do you think about the new gardiner clamp?
dont give him a hard time hes got the price of the new slx & clx down.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Stephen Fox on April 18, 2013, 11:51:02 pm
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Mr Fox,what do you think about the new gardiner clamp?

Without actually using it or seeing it in the 'flesh', it is hard to say. There is a danger of making comments on things when you've never used them.....

It looks pretty much the same as the current one, therefore I 'imagine' it works the same and feels the same. Going by what has been stated it has just addressed some issues brought up and experienced by users over the years (5 or so.?). In that respect it seems like an upgrade rather than a 'new' pole or clamp.

It does seem a lot of the 'new features' have been lifted directly from the Phoenix specs!  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: DG Cleaning on April 19, 2013, 12:37:20 am
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Mr Fox,what do you think about the new gardiner clamp?

Without actually using it or seeing it in the 'flesh', it is hard to say. There is a danger of making comments on things when you've never used them.....

It looks pretty much the same as the current one, therefore I 'imagine' it works the same and feels the same. Going by what has been stated it has just addressed some issues brought up and experienced by users over the years (5 or so.?). In that respect it seems like an upgrade rather than a 'new' pole or clamp.

It does seem a lot of the 'new features' have been lifted directly from the Phoenix specs!  ;D
Yep just like a Phoenix apart from a fibre glass bottom section ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: p1w1 on April 19, 2013, 05:38:08 am
Are they comparing there more expensive  hybrid pole to a full carbon one again  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 07:46:44 am
what else is new? only clamp?

It's all here - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLXII-NEWPOLES.html

I have seen that but can you explain more about "improved internal & external wear resistance"
Thanks

I will send an email across to you.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 07:48:31 am
One for when you wake up. Will these retro fit the Xtreme poles as well? Just thinking about it, due to the half way clamping points.

These clamps will certainly fit an Xtreme pole - most of the early 'white prototype' testing was done on well used Xtreme poles.

The new batch of Xtreme 18 & 25 poles will also feature these new clamps.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on April 19, 2013, 08:07:45 am
Hi Alex

The new clamps look really good in the video. I have to say though that video isnt for the faint hearted, it must of taken some will power to put a sander on a nice new pole section. What is the overall size like of the new clamps in comparison to the old ones? I've always though that this was one of your big advantages clamps that take up a fraction of the space in comparison to others.

Simon.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Dave Willis on April 19, 2013, 08:18:20 am
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Mr Fox,what do you think about the new gardiner clamp?

Without actually using it or seeing it in the 'flesh', it is hard to say. There is a danger of making comments on things when you've never used them.....

It looks pretty much the same as the current one, therefore I 'imagine' it works the same and feels the same. Going by what has been stated it has just addressed some issues brought up and experienced by users over the years (5 or so.?). In that respect it seems like an upgrade rather than a 'new' pole or clamp.

It does seem a lot of the 'new features' have been lifted directly from the Phoenix specs!  ;D

Are you going to sue?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Lee GLS on April 19, 2013, 08:24:17 am
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?

Clamp upgrade kit as well, with instructional video on how to do it. No sawing off the old clamps.
how do you know?

Alex said about this on another forum.
thanks Lee. So i could still use your clamp n*1?  ;D
did you get the scrapers?  ;)


Not sure, I'm away at the moment.  :D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: SB Cleaning on April 19, 2013, 09:04:14 am
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Mr Fox,what do you think about the new gardiner clamp?

Without actually using it or seeing it in the 'flesh', it is hard to say. There is a danger of making comments on things when you've never used them.....

It looks pretty much the same as the current one, therefore I 'imagine' it works the same and feels the same. Going by what has been stated it has just addressed some issues brought up and experienced by users over the years (5 or so.?). In that respect it seems like an upgrade rather than a 'new' pole or clamp.

It does seem a lot of the 'new features' have been lifted directly from the Phoenix specs!  ;D

Are you going to sue?
That's what I was thinking....
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 19, 2013, 09:09:10 am
Are the clamps avaliable for sale by themselves ?

Clamp upgrade kit as well, with instructional video on how to do it. No sawing off the old clamps.
how do you know?

Alex said about this on another forum.
thanks Lee. So i could still use your clamp n*1?  ;D
did you get the scrapers?  ;)


Not sure, I'm away at the moment.  :D
lucky you  ;) somewhere nice?  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Tony Edwards on April 19, 2013, 10:04:59 am
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D
Mr Fox,what do you think about the new gardiner clamp?

Without actually using it or seeing it in the 'flesh', it is hard to say. There is a danger of making comments on things when you've never used them.....

It looks pretty much the same as the current one, therefore I 'imagine' it works the same and feels the same. Going by what has been stated it has just addressed some issues brought up and experienced by users over the years (5 or so.?). In that respect it seems like an upgrade rather than a 'new' pole or clamp.

It does seem a lot of the 'new features' have been lifted directly from the Phoenix specs!  ;D
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Crawl back under your hole
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: rg1 on April 19, 2013, 11:30:21 am
According to the website, the CLX II weight is TBA.

Does that suggest they will be heavier?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: dd on April 19, 2013, 11:49:36 am
Think we should be grateful to Facelift because I think Alex has learned from their clamping system and there has been the issue with clamps needing regular adjustment on slx/clx poles for years. Is it a coincidence this has been resolved after the new Facelift poles are starting to get popular?

So thank you Alex, but also thank you Facelift for providing some good competition from which we as end users benefit from.

Please stop knocking Facelift. I understand why people do not like Stephen Fox and I remember him from years back as Foxman (not my favourite person).
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 12:15:33 pm
According to the website, the CLX II weight is TBA.

Does that suggest they will be heavier?

No it doesn't - they will be the same or fractionally lighter gram per cm of extended length. However we have changed the exact extended length on nearly all poles so until we have the final production models and have weighed an average sampling we cannot say exactly what the weights are.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: rg1 on April 19, 2013, 12:25:08 pm
According to the website, the CLX II weight is TBA.

Does that suggest they will be heavier?

No it doesn't - they will be the same or fractionally lighter gram per cm of extended length. However we have changed the exact extended length on nearly all poles so until we have the final production models and have weighed an average sampling we cannot say exactly what the weights are.

Thanks Alex.

Since posting that question, I decided to order a CLX 22 with FREE CLX10. Great Offer!!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 12:26:29 pm
Think we should be grateful to Facelift because I think Alex has learned from their clamping system and there has been the issue with clamps needing regular adjustment on slx/clx poles for years. Is it a coincidence this has been resolved after the new Facelift poles are starting to get popular?

So thank you Alex, but also thank you Facelift for providing some good competition from which we as end users benefit from.

Please stop knocking Facelift. I understand why people do not like Stephen Fox and I remember him from years back as Foxman (not my favourite person).

Naturally I have examined the Facelift clamps as we do with all competing products. I have my opinion of the facelift clamps/poles based on my experience with them and the long term testing we have done with them.

These new Gardiner Smart-Clamps have been in development for nearly two years now so their gestation period pre-dates the latest tweaked facelift clamps. The Patent application process in itself has taken many months to achieve.

As long term users of our poles will know they have been the result of constant continuous improvement. This has continued with these new models and will no doubt continue to do so.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: tlwcs on April 19, 2013, 12:36:27 pm
Hi Alex,
Will any of the new range have an extendable top section that we should use when we have left the milk create outside the bookies, need an extra 4' or just all the time?
Will any of the range have a bag on the base section to carry some snap? (that ones a goer mate)

Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: dd on April 19, 2013, 12:45:59 pm
Think we should be grateful to Facelift because I think Alex has learned from their clamping system and there has been the issue with clamps needing regular adjustment on slx/clx poles for years. Is it a coincidence this has been resolved after the new Facelift poles are starting to get popular?

So thank you Alex, but also thank you Facelift for providing some good competition from which we as end users benefit from.

Please stop knocking Facelift. I understand why people do not like Stephen Fox and I remember him from years back as Foxman (not my favourite person).

Naturally I have examined the Facelift clamps as we do with all competing products. I have my opinion of the facelift clamps/poles based on my experience with them and the long term testing we have done with them.

These new Gardiner Smart-Clamps have been in development for nearly two years now so their gestation period pre-dates the latest tweaked facelift clamps. The Patent application process in itself has taken many months to achieve.

As long term users of our poles will know they have been the result of constant continuous improvement. This has continued with these new models and will no doubt continue to do so.
That is good to know.

Is your opinion of the new facelift favourable?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on April 19, 2013, 02:50:08 pm
Phoenix who??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Winpro,

Why do you think the new SLX/CLX are cheaper??! If your a die hard G fan you have a lot to thank Facelift for!  ;D ;D

No, no, no Stevie boy. These babies were being created well before the Phoenix emerged!! ;)

As I've said before, it's nice to see new poles to the market as I know not long after Gardiners will shift the goalposts even further! ;D So, the "new" Phoenix is now "old hat" 8)

However, I will thank you for Wagtails. ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 19, 2013, 07:45:06 pm
Hi Alex

The new clamps look really good in the video. I have to say though that video isnt for the faint hearted, it must of taken some will power to put a sander on a nice new pole section. What is the overall size like of the new clamps in comparison to the old ones? I've always though that this was one of your big advantages clamps that take up a fraction of the space in comparison to others.

Simon.

Hi Simon

It does go against the grain to purposely wreck a section! However it is not the only section I have wasted in development of these clamps and poles - can't make a cake without....

The overall size of the clamps is very similar and many people would not notice the difference when fitted to the pole. The bodies are 6mm deeper, but now stack more closely thereby actually reducing the stacked size of the clamps compared to the older poles - they are the most compact stacked clamps of any telescopic pole in the world (currently). The clamp body diameter is exactly the same. The lever arm is slightly larger, but is far more ergonomic and even easier to use and less likely to catch.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 22, 2013, 06:09:15 pm
cant be long now  :'( :'(
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: LBWCS on April 22, 2013, 06:31:08 pm
Think we should be grateful to Facelift because I think Alex has learned from their clamping system and there has been the issue with clamps needing regular adjustment on slx/clx poles for years. Is it a coincidence this has been resolved after the new Facelift poles are starting to get popular?

So thank you Alex, but also thank you Facelift for providing some good competition from which we as end users benefit from.

Please stop knocking Facelift. I understand why people do not like Stephen Fox and I remember him from years back as Foxman (not my favourite person).

Naturally I have examined the Facelift clamps as we do with all competing products. I have my opinion of the facelift clamps/poles based on my experience with them and the long term testing we have done with them.

These new Gardiner Smart-Clamps have been in development for nearly two years now so their gestation period pre-dates the latest tweaked facelift clamps. The Patent application process in itself has taken many months to achieve.

As long term users of our poles will know they have been the result of constant continuous improvement. This has continued with these new models and will no doubt continue to do so.

This is why we will continue to purchase gardiner products
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 22, 2013, 07:02:51 pm
mr G says beginning of may.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 25, 2013, 05:02:46 pm
still no date. ::)roll :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 27, 2013, 04:53:04 pm
  ::)roll  :-\ :-X :( 8) ??? :'( :'( :-\ :-\ >:( ;D ok
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Frankybadboy on April 27, 2013, 06:32:29 pm
you could win a new clx11 18ft one here
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=169293.0

for a donation of £10+all for charity ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 27, 2013, 07:33:47 pm
you could win a new clx11 18ft one here
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=169293.0

for a donation of £10+all for charity ;D
Done. Good luck Franky  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 29, 2013, 12:49:40 pm
WHY ARE WE WAITING!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 29, 2013, 12:57:05 pm
WHY ARE WE WAITING!!!!!!

Ohhhhh whhhyyyyyy are we waiting?  ;D

phoned up this morning mid may aparrantly?  ::)roll   :D

still managed to spend £151!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 29, 2013, 01:06:34 pm
WHY ARE WE WAITING!!!!!!

Ohhhhh whhhyyyyyy are we waiting?  ;D

phoned up this morning mid may aparrantly?  ::)roll   :D

still managed to spend £151!
expensive phone call. :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on April 29, 2013, 07:40:36 pm
Less than 29 oors noo 8)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 29, 2013, 07:50:40 pm
Less than 29 oors noo 8)
nope read above ^^^^^^
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 29, 2013, 07:54:48 pm
The first small batches (20 of each size) of CLX27, SLX18, SLX22 & SLX25 poles arrived today. This is the first sample batch to allow me to fully check the production team's quality and assembly resolution. I am pleased to say that they have all met my quality inspections so far today. The rest of the batch is going to be packed up and sent over in the next couple of weeks by air and these will include all of the sizes and variants.

We will not be putting these on sale until Tuesday the 7th of May as I need to have time to fully train the staff in the new poles which are completely new to them as well. I will also be spending the week finishing off the website product details and hopefully shooting some videos of the new poles to demonstrate their features.

When all of this is done then we will be ready to start selling them immediately after the Bank Holiday.

If anyone local wants to pop in and have a look at one of these initial poles they are more than welcome although a phone call before visiting is always a good idea as the firm is extremely busy and some times are much busier than others. Please note that you would not be able to buy one at this time even if calling in.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: robbo333 on April 29, 2013, 08:08:08 pm
I think it's quite refreshing to find a company that takes the time to do it properly, rather than do it quickly. And yes I do have Gardiners Poles, but I'm no a**e licker.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: stevieg on April 29, 2013, 08:11:23 pm
Are these clamps glued on,i hope not!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 29, 2013, 08:46:16 pm

If anyone local wants to pop in and have a look at one of these initial poles they are more than welcome although a phone call before visiting is always a good idea as the firm is extremely busy and some times are much busier than others. Please note that you would not be able to buy one at this time even if calling in.

I've booked my jet. Gatwick to Newquay, bringing a bag of money.  :D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Wingrove on April 29, 2013, 10:03:18 pm

If anyone local wants to pop in and have a look at one of these initial poles they are more than welcome although a phone call before visiting is always a good idea as the firm is extremely busy and some times are much busier than others. Please note that you would not be able to buy one at this time even if calling in.

I've booked my jet. Gatwick to Newquay, bringing a bag of money.  :D

Timber have you seen my bag of money. I have looked every where. I took it with me last night, and no body can find it.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: [GQC] Tim on April 29, 2013, 10:31:39 pm

If anyone local wants to pop in and have a look at one of these initial poles they are more than welcome although a phone call before visiting is always a good idea as the firm is extremely busy and some times are much busier than others. Please note that you would not be able to buy one at this time even if calling in.

I've booked my jet. Gatwick to Newquay, bringing a bag of money.  :D



Timber have you seen my bag of money. I have looked every where. I took it with me last night, and no body can find it.

Hahaha, that cracked me up.  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: DaveG on April 30, 2013, 09:38:43 am
Hi Alex, are the new clamps being released on the same date?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 30, 2013, 10:20:06 am
Hi Alex, are the new clamps being released on the same date?
apparently yes  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: SB Cleaning on April 30, 2013, 08:34:43 pm
Are these clamps glued on,i hope not!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's a good question??
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 08:52:43 pm
Are these clamps glued on,i hope not!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are beautifully glued on to a very high standard. Having just inspected the new batch that has arrived I am very pleased with the quality of the application. Having examined all of the fixing options it is still our preferred method as long as the correct glue is used and the preparation and application in the factory is exactly right - all of which we have ensured with these new poles.

If you want to see me gluing on a set of these new 'Smart Clamps' to an old pole then I have just done a video tutorial for when the upgrade kits go on sale next week. Prepared and glued like this with the glue provided they will stay on for the rest of the life of the pole - http://youtu.be/oz2NiLDIn40
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on April 30, 2013, 09:34:13 pm
Brilliant,cant wait to get a set.Allways buy the best.


Is that a rolex Alex? ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 09:46:27 pm
Brilliant,cant wait to get a set.Allways buy the best.


Is that a rolex Alex? ;D

 ;D

Not a chance, it's a Casio off eBay several years ago.

Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Dani J on April 30, 2013, 09:54:26 pm
Brilliant,cant wait to get a set.Allways buy the best.


Is that a rolex Alex? ;D

I think its Citizen  ;) ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 30, 2013, 10:06:04 pm
nice video Alex  :)
any prices yet?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 10:09:11 pm
nice video Alex  :)
any prices yet?

All prices are now on the website - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLXII-NEWPOLES.html click on the second image to open it full size.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 30, 2013, 10:11:08 pm
i mean the price for the smart clamps kit
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 10:13:45 pm
You can see a sneek peek at the new poles on this new QuicK-LoQ video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjRFPYOx0wk&sns=em
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 10:14:22 pm
i mean the price for the smart clamps kit

Hoping to finalise these tomorrow.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 30, 2013, 10:18:28 pm
thanks Alex, look great the new clamps,can't wait.. :D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: DeLuce on April 30, 2013, 10:38:31 pm
Excellent video. Looking to put these clamps onto my 25' Xtreme. 
By the way, nice to see you've lost the 'tache.  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 10:43:48 pm
Excellent video. Looking to put these clamps onto my 25' Xtreme. 
By the way, nice to see you've lost the 'tache.  ;D

 :D

The 'tache is still there - perhaps the video quality doesn't show it to its best!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on April 30, 2013, 10:44:18 pm
what are the price on the new extreme poles?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 10:50:05 pm
what are the price on the new extreme poles?

Prices are on this page of the website - http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Super-Lite-Xtreme-trade-47---Hi-Modulus-Carbon-Pole--47-77ft--SLXTREME_POLES_ALL.html - click on the second image to open to full size.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: DeLuce on April 30, 2013, 10:51:18 pm

 :D

The 'tache is still there - perhaps the video quality doesn't show it to its best!
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Noooo! Lol. I tried to check too.   ;D

Thanks for providing a good service.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on April 30, 2013, 10:59:30 pm
Excellent video. Looking to put these clamps onto my 25' Xtreme. 
By the way, nice to see you've lost the 'tache.  ;D

 :D

The 'tache is still there - perhaps the video quality doesn't show it to its best!
tom selleck ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on April 30, 2013, 11:00:47 pm

 :D

The 'tache is still there - perhaps the video quality doesn't show it to its best!


Noooo! Lol. I tried to check too.   ;D

Thanks for providing a good service.

It's staying put for now as my wife likes it  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: robert mitchell on May 01, 2013, 08:10:46 am
When is the new extreme 25 coming and how much ?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: robert mitchell on May 01, 2013, 12:54:10 pm
Come on mr gardiner , stop trimming your moustache and sort me out an extreme 25 ......and a set of free clamps for my clx 18 :) :)  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 01, 2013, 01:02:28 pm
Come on mr gardiner , stop trimming your moustache and sort me out an extreme 25 ......and a set of free clamps for my clx 18 :) :)  ;D

Hi Robert

The Xtreme should be with us and ready for sale within the next 2 weeks - prices can be found here - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Super-Lite-Xtreme-trade-47---Hi-Modulus-Carbon-Pole--47-77ft--SLXTREME_POLES_ALL.html click on the second image to enlarge.

The DIY Smart Clamp upgrade kits are not going to be provided FOC, but they will be at 50% discount for all those who have purchased a pole from us in the last 12 months. The prices are about to go live on the website for these kits and will be available from next Tuesday to purchase with a 5 day lead time. Each kit purchased will need to be matched with the office against an actual pole purchase.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 01, 2013, 01:19:48 pm
i mean the price for the smart clamps kit

Here is the link to the prices for the new clamp upgrade kits - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Gardiner-Smart-Clamp-DIY-Upgrade-Kits-ClampII_SET.html
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Lee GLS on May 01, 2013, 03:43:42 pm
Hi Alex, I need a new base section for my slx22, are these available with the new clamps on yet as I also want to order the new clamps at the same time.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 01, 2013, 05:04:36 pm
Hi Alex, I need a new base section for my slx22, are these available with the new clamps on yet as I also want to order the new clamps at the same time.

Hi Lee

In the future we will be stocking the new SLX Extension sections which can be purchased instead of base sections - you would need an SLX extension section#5. These will be more economical to buy and can be added to if needed. They will also feature the Smart Clamps.

These will be available to buy in about 2 weeks time - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLX---Extension-Sections-SLX_EXT.html

Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Lee GLS on May 01, 2013, 05:51:54 pm
Hi Alex, I need a new base section for my slx22, are these available with the new clamps on yet as I also want to order the new clamps at the same time.

Hi Lee

In the future we will be stocking the new SLX Extension sections which can be purchased instead of base sections - you would need an SLX extension section#5. These will be more economical to buy and can be added to if needed. They will also feature the Smart Clamps.

These will be available to buy in about 2 weeks time - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLX---Extension-Sections-SLX_EXT.html



Great thanks

Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: robert mitchell on May 01, 2013, 09:20:58 pm
Im torn between getting the extreme25 or slx 25?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 01, 2013, 09:41:13 pm
Im torn between getting the extreme25 or slx 25?
don't be tight, buy an extreme25  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Carl@Cwc on May 01, 2013, 09:42:32 pm
gonna be getting a couple set of these as soon as they available.
which set for slx22 alex pls
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 01, 2013, 09:51:01 pm
gonna be getting a couple set of these as soon as they available.
which set for slx22 alex pls
come on,think about it, you don't need Alex for that!  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 01, 2013, 09:58:27 pm
Alex are the clamp upgrades only available through the office? I ask because there must be plenty of us with 2 or 3 year old poles that are not eligable for a discount and it would be handy to be able to add this to cart whilst online?

 :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 01, 2013, 10:00:18 pm
Alex are the clamp upgrades only available through the office? I ask because there must be plenty of us with 2 or 3 year old poles that are not eligable for a discount and it would be handy to be able to add this to cart whilst online?

 :)
maybe to avoid that you use the new clamps on another pole brand  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: DG Cleaning on May 01, 2013, 10:00:38 pm
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Having said that you do get a brush and gooseneck included which makes it a better deal than previously.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 01, 2013, 10:03:04 pm
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing. :-\
me too,i am lost  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: windiewasher on May 01, 2013, 10:13:57 pm
alex i see you have lots of extensions for the clx,isit possible to add a section to a clx 27?
cheers
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 07:51:13 am
gonna be getting a couple set of these as soon as they available.
which set for slx22 alex pls

The SLX22 is a 5 section pole so you need the second option (4 clamps).
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 07:54:11 am
Alex are the clamp upgrades only available through the office? I ask because there must be plenty of us with 2 or 3 year old poles that are not eligable for a discount and it would be handy to be able to add this to cart whilst online?

 :)

The clamp upgrades are only available through the office as to begin with everyone who has bought a Gardiner pole since the 7th of May 2012 will get a 50% discount and anyone who has bought a Gardiner pole prior to this will get 25% off. So it is worth ringing up and getting your pole purchase linked to a previous order and getting the discount.

Currently these will not be available to anyone who has not previously bought a Gardiner pole from us - why anyone would want to I'm not quite sure unless they just wanted to check the clamps out. As far as I know these clamps will not fit on to any other pole.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 07:57:39 am
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Having said that you do get a brush and gooseneck included which makes it a better deal than previously.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing.

As you have seen we have worked hard to bring the price of the base pole itself down to the best value possible - this is particularly noticeable on the larger sizes of the SLX poles.

There are many options now all of which are charged for as extras, this is so that clients only pay for what they want and will use. Previously all clients ended paying for hose and gooseneck even though they often already had these items.

There are a lot of options, but if you work your way through them in logical order they do allow for almost all permutations catering to the requirements of most of our clients. Basically choose a brush and gooseneck, then choose hose and connector and the job is done.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 07:59:42 am
alex i see you have lots of extensions for the clx,isit possible to add a section to a clx 27?
cheers

Yes you can add the CLX extension#7 to the the CLX27 giving you about a 31ft pole - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-CLX-Extension-Sections-CLX_EXT.html
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: windiewasher on May 02, 2013, 08:07:17 am
alex i see you have lots of extensions for the clx,isit possible to add a section to a clx 27?
cheers

Yes you can add the CLX extension#7 to the the CLX27 giving you about a 31ft pole - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-CLX-Extension-Sections-CLX_EXT.html
Thanks alex.
Any idea when i will be able to buy some new bits?
Thanks
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: robert mitchell on May 02, 2013, 08:14:16 am
Alex , am I right in thinking that to extend my clx 18 to a 22 I would need a section 5 extension
?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 08:32:46 am
Alex , am I right in thinking that to extend my clx 18 to a 22 I would need a section 5 extension
?

Yes you are right.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 08:34:19 am
I've not been following the forum so much recently as I thought everything had been said that *could* be said.  It looks like the smart clamps have proven me wrong  :) .  This could be the answer to my CLX27 issues as I find that I have to clamp it with each section extended a few inches.  Presumably it's not such a hard surface as the SLX.  It's a funny thing because I've had clamps on my mind recently.  I was going to ask Alex if there was a way of including some type of better gripping material between clamp and pole.  I was also going to suggest that the "tightener" could be made in a way that made it easier to tighten after a certain point e.g. made with something sticking out rather than totally round.  The smart clamps seem to have superceded such things though.
Can the smart clamps be fitted to an Xtreme pole.  i.e. is there enough play in them to overcome the fact that the ends of sections have a larger diameter? (I have an earlier 48 ft model without any half way points).
If this is done by spring, I imagine it must be a very strong spring, particularly on the end clamp that hold brushes and screw threads.

The Smart Clamp upgrade kit will fit the Xtreme 48 Poles - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Gardiner-Smart-Clamp-DIY-Upgrade-Kits-ClampII_SET.html

It will not allow it to clamp anywhere along its length though.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 08:34:58 am
alex i see you have lots of extensions for the clx,isit possible to add a section to a clx 27?
cheers

Yes you can add the CLX extension#7 to the the CLX27 giving you about a 31ft pole - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-CLX-Extension-Sections-CLX_EXT.html
Thanks alex.
Any idea when i will be able to buy some new bits?
Thanks

These extensions should be with us in about 10 days now.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: robert mitchell on May 02, 2013, 08:37:11 am
Cheers alex .
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Lee GLS on May 02, 2013, 09:01:38 am
Hi Alex, I am going to order the smart clamps for my 2 year old slx, but I also have a slx35 which I bought from a forum member a couple of years ago, will I be able to order clamps for this?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 02, 2013, 09:17:05 am
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Having said that you do get a brush and gooseneck included which makes it a better deal than previously.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing.

As you have seen we have worked hard to bring the price of the base pole itself down to the best value possible - this is particularly noticeable on the larger sizes of the SLX poles.

There are many options now all of which are charged for as extras, this is so that clients only pay for what they want and will use. Previously all clients ended paying for hose and gooseneck even though they often already had these items.

There are a lot of options, but if you work your way through them in logical order they do allow for almost all permutations catering to the requirements of most of our clients. Basically choose a brush and gooseneck, then choose hose and connector and the job is done.

IMAO when you buy a pole it will be easier and not so confused to choose only a brush and gooseneck, then choose hose and connector.Not have some many options. Just my opinion anyway  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 10:12:21 am
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Having said that you do get a brush and gooseneck included which makes it a better deal than previously.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing.

The push-fit valves have risen from the stand-alone price of £9.50 to the fitted price of £13.12 this is because when fitting them to the pole hose other costs are incurred such as:
Slightly longer hose pack
2x Stem to Barb adapter (not always needed for push-fits with our pole hose, but we fit them to save any pull-out issues)
2x O clips

It is fractionally cheaper to buy the hose packs and the flow valves and make them yourself, it depends if convenience or cost is the priority.
We decided to let clients have the full range of options.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 10:18:02 am
Hi Alex, I am going to order the smart clamps for my 2 year old slx, but I also have a slx35 which I bought from a forum member a couple of years ago, will I be able to order clamps for this?

Hi Lee

You will be able to buy a clamp set for the second hand pole, but not with any discount.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: DG Cleaning on May 02, 2013, 10:23:11 am
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Having said that you do get a brush and gooseneck included which makes it a better deal than previously.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing.

The push-fit valves have risen from the stand-alone price of £9.50 to the fitted price of £13.12 this is because when fitting them to the pole hose other costs are incurred such as:
Slightly longer hose pack
2x Stem to Barb adapter (not always needed for push-fits with our pole hose, but we fit them to save any pull-out issues)
2x O clips

It is fractionally cheaper to buy the hose packs and the flow valves and make them yourself, it depends if convenience or cost is the priority.
We decided to let clients have the full range of options.

Thanks Alex, Like I said previously I do think its a better deal
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 10:24:33 am
IMAO when you buy a pole it will be easier and not so confused to choose only a brush and gooseneck, then choose hose and connector.Not have some much options. Just my opinion anyway  ;D

I think that you are probably right. I have removed the options to choose other types of goosenecks and brushes.

There are now just the following options:

Inclusive carbon gooseneck and free brush.
Quick-LoQ Gooseneck (optional)
Quick-LoQ Brush (optional)
Fanjet option
Hose option
Connector option
Flow Valve option
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 10:25:32 am
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Having said that you do get a brush and gooseneck included which makes it a better deal than previously.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing.

The push-fit valves have risen from the stand-alone price of £9.50 to the fitted price of £13.12 this is because when fitting them to the pole hose other costs are incurred such as:
Slightly longer hose pack
2x Stem to Barb adapter (not always needed for push-fits with our pole hose, but we fit them to save any pull-out issues)
2x O clips

It is fractionally cheaper to buy the hose packs and the flow valves and make them yourself, it depends if convenience or cost is the priority.
We decided to let clients have the full range of options.

Thanks Alex, Like I said previously I do think its a better deal

I have noted yours and Ben M's comments about too many options though and have removed 3 of the options as posted above.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wayupnorth on May 02, 2013, 10:34:22 am
Are the new poles available yet, where are these new prices of options shown, I cant find them  ???
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on May 02, 2013, 03:38:41 pm
Are the new poles available yet, where are these new prices of options shown, I cant find them  ???
new poles on sale 7th of may.click on the small box next to the picture of the new clamps you might have to refresh page for it to show up. http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/The-New-SLXII-NEWPOLES.html
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Wrekin C S on May 02, 2013, 04:17:11 pm
Looks a bit confusing which pole and which brush, gooseneck, etc - never had one of these before so unsure which is which any recommendations?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: SunShineCleaning on May 02, 2013, 05:04:16 pm
What if you just want a bare pole?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on May 02, 2013, 05:07:36 pm
What if you just want a bare pole?
lol never thought of that. ive got three superlite brushes & dont really need another. pole & goose neck would be fine.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 02, 2013, 05:13:39 pm
Hi Alex, I am going to order the smart clamps for my 2 year old slx, but I also have a slx35 which I bought from a forum member a couple of years ago, will I be able to order clamps for this?

Hi Lee

You will be able to buy a clamp set for the second hand pole, but not with any discount  :P
nice try Lee  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on May 02, 2013, 05:21:06 pm
Hi Alex, I am going to order the smart clamps for my 2 year old slx, but I also have a slx35 which I bought from a forum member a couple of years ago, will I be able to order clamps for this?

Hi Lee

You will be able to buy a clamp set for the second hand pole, but not with any discount.
nice try Lee  ;D
if you dont ask you dont get  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 02, 2013, 05:23:40 pm
Just looked at Gardiners website, the base pole price is cheaper but things that were previously included are now extra such as pole hose etc.
Having said that you do get a brush and gooseneck included which makes it a better deal than previously.
Also the fitted flow valve,has gone up from £9 odd to £13 odd.
There's so many options now I'm finding it very confusing.

The push-fit valves have risen from the stand-alone price of £9.50 to the fitted price of £13.12 this is because when fitting them to the pole hose other costs are incurred such as:
Slightly longer hose pack
2x Stem to Barb adapter (not always needed for push-fits with our pole hose, but we fit them to save any pull-out issues)
2x O clips

It is fractionally cheaper to buy the hose packs and the flow valves and make them yourself, it depends if convenience or cost is the priority.
We decided to let clients have the full range of options.

Thanks Alex, Like I said previously I do think its a better deal

I have noted yours and Ben M's comments about too many options though and have removed 3 of the options as posted above.
well done Alex,better without so many options  :)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 06:29:38 pm
What if you just want a bare pole?

This is the basic option and is the starting point for all our new poles (apart from those with free carbon gooseneck and brush).

For instance if you go to the page for a CLX18 - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CL-X-Carbon-Composite-Pole-CLX_18.html

When these are available to buy (Tuesday 7th 8.00am) if you simply clicked the Add to Cart button you would buy a CLX18 bare pole with no hose, connector gooseneck or brush.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wpclean on May 02, 2013, 09:00:03 pm
Alex would you recommend changing over  to the new clamps for a good condition one year old pole, or waiting till the old clamps wear ?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wayupnorth on May 02, 2013, 09:09:47 pm
Alex, Thank you so very much for your new lineup, this has removed any doubt whatsoever as to which pole I should buy as I start my business. You can certainly expect a sale from me when you release them.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 02, 2013, 09:21:34 pm
Alex would you recommend changing over  to the new clamps for a good condition one year old pole, or waiting till the old clamps wear ?

I am a great believer in 'if it 'aint broke don't fix it' so if the pole is working well and the sections are evenly worn then continue as you are is the easy cheap option.

As soon as the sections show signs of uneven wear then a clamp upgrade would be ideal. Of course if you look after the pole well with regular cleaning and maintenance the pole may not wear unevenly and you can continue using it with the original clamps fitted.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Wrekin C S on May 03, 2013, 01:12:35 am
Whats the difference between CLX and SLX?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Spruce on May 03, 2013, 06:36:14 am
Whats the difference between CLX and SLX?

The SLX has aircon and leather upholstery as standard.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 03, 2013, 07:30:40 am
Whats the difference between CLX and SLX?

The SLX has aircon and leather upholstery as standard.

 ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 03, 2013, 07:36:31 am
Whats the difference between CLX and SLX?

SLX Carbon Fibre - more rigid for a given length than:-
CLX Carbon Fibre/Fibre Glass mix
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 03, 2013, 07:36:43 am
Hi Alex, I am going to order the smart clamps for my 2 year old slx, but I also have a slx35 which I bought from a forum member a couple of years ago, will I be able to order clamps for this?

Hi Lee

You will be able to buy a clamp set for the second hand pole, but not with any discount.
nice try Lee  ;D
if you dont ask you dont get  ;)

Very true. thats why i sent a sneaky email to Alex to prepay for a new slx, but he tactfully told me to jog on and join the que!  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Avo on May 03, 2013, 08:33:00 am
Has the weight of the clx changed my mate got one 2 weeks ago and it feels different more ridgid with less flex than an older one and more weighty
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Wrekin C S on May 03, 2013, 09:58:42 am
I read on here a while back that the 25ft pole was a good all rounder or am I thinking of something else cant find the old post now?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: wfp master on May 03, 2013, 03:12:07 pm
Hi Alex, I am going to order the smart clamps for my 2 year old slx, but I also have a slx35 which I bought from a forum member a couple of years ago, will I be able to order clamps for this?

Hi Lee

You will be able to buy a clamp set for the second hand pole, but not with any discount.
nice try Lee  ;D
if you dont ask you dont get  ;)

Very true. thats why i sent a sneaky email to Alex to prepay for a new slx, but he tactfully told me to jog on and join the que!  ;D
the go on sale at 8 in the morning get up at 7 & get your buy now finger ready. :) i will be.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 03, 2013, 03:17:49 pm
Alex, Can we buy only clamps number 2 and 3? thanks
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: rg1 on May 03, 2013, 03:25:39 pm
Whats the difference between CLX and SLX?

The SLX has aircon and leather upholstery as standard.

Aircon has been upgraded to Climate Control for the SLX MK2
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: master cleaner on May 03, 2013, 04:34:25 pm
will these clamps not work on  the extreme poles ie being able to clamp anywhere on the pole ?

gary
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: robert mitchell on May 03, 2013, 05:14:53 pm
hi alex ,

If i buy a new slx 22 ami i right in thinking i will be able to add an extension to make it a 26?

Would go for a 25 but prefer the shorter closed length of the 22.

How far can it be extended with extensions?
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 03, 2013, 05:52:29 pm
Has the weight of the clx changed my mate got one 2 weeks ago and it feels different more rigid with less flex than an older one and more weighty

The weights have not changed between the CLX your mate has just bought and the older one you have. However there will be a weight difference now as your one will have shed up to 1/6th of its weight through wear, which is why it also feels less rigid.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 03, 2013, 05:54:05 pm
will these clamps not work on  the extreme poles ie being able to clamp anywhere on the pole ?

gary

These new clamps will be able to be fitted to the Xtreme poles (in fact the new Xtreme18 & 25 coming next week will have them fitted). However it will not change the way they work as the difference between clamping zones and the shaft on the Xtreme is too great for the clamp to adjust between.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 03, 2013, 06:01:28 pm
Alex, Can we buy only clamps number 2 and 3? thanks

You can now - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Gardiner-Smart-Clamp-DIY-Upgrade-Kits-ClampII_SET.html

 ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 03, 2013, 06:31:34 pm
hi alex ,

If i buy a new slx 22 ami i right in thinking i will be able to add an extension to make it a 26?

Would go for a 25 but prefer the shorter closed length of the 22.

How far can it be extended with extensions?

If you buy an SLX22 you will be able to add to it first of all with the SLX extension section#6 this would give you about 26ft.

You can then carry on and add an extension section#7, #8, #9 and then even a modular #10 extension section giving you about 45/46ft
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: p1w1 on May 03, 2013, 06:46:44 pm
hi alex ,

If i buy a new slx 22 ami i right in thinking i will be able to add an extension to make it a 26?

Would go for a 25 but prefer the shorter closed length of the 22.

How far can it be extended with extensions?

If you buy an SLX22 you will be able to add to it first of all with the SLX extension section#6 this would give you about 26ft.

You can then carry on and add an extension section#7, #8, #9 and then even a modular #10 extension section giving you about 45/46ft
Are the extensions for the poles all protected like normal base sections.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 03, 2013, 06:50:57 pm
Are the extensions for the poles all protected like normal base sections.

They are. All of the SLX extensions have a thin insulative outer layer on top of the carbon fibre so that they can safely be used as a handle section.

They do not come with and end cap fitted though (as they can be bought in multiples) so the correct sized end cap would need to be bought separately.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on May 03, 2013, 07:06:34 pm
What if you just want a bare pole?

Plenty of them in a bar I used to frequent. £50 for half an hour.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 06, 2013, 08:24:09 pm
Looks a bit confusing which pole and which brush, gooseneck, etc - never had one of these before so unsure which is which any recommendations?

Hi WWC

I thought about what you have posted and I agree that it can be confusing with all of the options. Therefore I have now included a short video guide to all of the pole options on every pole page to talk users through the multitude of choices available.

You can see an example of this video on this page - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SLX-II-Carbon-Pole--SLX_18.html

If ordering a pole with an included carbon gooseneck and brush then the 10" carbon with the Medium-Mixed DT brush is an excellent starting point. If ordering a pole with no included gooseneck and brush then a QuicK-LoQ Resi-Neck with a Medium-Mixed DT brush would be a good choice.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Llaaww on May 06, 2013, 08:42:23 pm
Alex, as you are here, Is your backpack suitable for use a a soap dispenser for gutters??

And is it ok to call in to collect it.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 06, 2013, 08:46:01 pm
Alex, as you are here, Is your backpack suitable for use a a soap dispenser for gutters??

And is it ok to call in to collect it.

Hi LLAAWW

Yes this would be fine to use the backpack for spraying soap and other cleaning chemicals.

We have a good stock of them in hand - it's always a good idea to call ahead as the items can be ready and waiting for you for when you arrive - otherwise at busy times there may be a wait.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Llaaww on May 06, 2013, 08:49:45 pm
Ok thanks.

I need some other stuff as well, but nothing too complicated.

Will buzz during the week.
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: ben M on May 06, 2013, 09:32:36 pm
Looks a bit confusing which pole and which brush, gooseneck, etc - never had one of these before so unsure which is which any recommendations?

Hi WWC

I thought about what you have posted and I agree that it can be confusing with all of the options. Therefore I have now included a short video guide to all of the pole options on every pole page to talk users through the multitude of choices available.

You can see an example of this video on this page - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SLX-II-Carbon-Pole--SLX_18.html

If ordering a pole with an included carbon gooseneck and brush the the 10" carbon with the Medium-Mixed DT brush is an excellent starting point. If ordering a pole with no included gooseneck and brush then a QuicK-LoQ Resi-Neck with a Medium-Mixed DT brush would be a good choice.
nice video Alex,very useful. One silly question maybe,why do you send automatically a carbon gooseneck? Thanks
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Lee GLS on May 06, 2013, 09:34:59 pm
It's a freebie!
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 06, 2013, 09:39:07 pm
alarm clocks at the ready!  ;D
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Fin Clearview on May 06, 2013, 10:01:24 pm
I hope one of those minty fresh boxes in the background has my name on Alex  ;)
Title: Re: New Gardiners Poles!
Post by: Alex Gardiner on May 06, 2013, 10:10:55 pm
nice video Alex,very useful. One silly question maybe,why do you send automatically a carbon gooseneck? Thanks

As has been said it is our current promotional give away item.

We have now moved on to the QuicK-LoQ carbon fibre goosenecks as our latest offering but still have a stock of carbon goosenecks. We are using these to add even more value to some of our pole range.