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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: SunShineCleaning on April 17, 2013, 07:32:11 am
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As per my other thread: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=168844.0
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Have you got a safety mat to cover your safety mat so people don't trip over the safety mat?
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Have you got a safety mat to cover your safety mat so people don't trip over the safety mat?
I'm looking into it.
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where'd you get your safety mat? i'm going to get one
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where'd you get your safety mat? i'm going to get one
The one in the picture is just rubber matting which isn't really heavy enough so I'm still looking.
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By the time you have pulled the hose round the
Back of the house then come back to the van
To put safety mat over hose on the pavement
Someone could of already tripped over the hose!
Unless you put cones out the you would be covered!
So wasted of time IMO
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By the time you have pulled the hose round the
Back of the house then come back to the van
To put safety mat over hose on the pavement
Someone could of already tripped over the hose!
Unless you put cones out the you would be covered!
So wasted of time IMO
However if you didn't use it at all they could trip over the hose at any time.
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Stuart, you need a third option, 'WOULD USE ONE BUT WITHOUT SO MANY CONES'
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By the time you have pulled the hose round the
Back of the house then come back to the van
To put safety mat over hose on the pavement
Someone could of already tripped over the hose!
Unless you put cones out the you would be covered!
So wasted of time IMO
However if you didn't use it at all they could trip over the hose at any time.
I was told by h&s cones are adequate do that will do
For me
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That picture looks like elf'n'safety gone crazy.
If that was me there would be one cone and I'd ensure the hose lay flat.
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By the time you have pulled the hose round the
Back of the house then come back to the van
To put safety mat over hose on the pavement
Someone could of already tripped over the hose!
Unless you put cones out the you would be covered!
So wasted of time IMO
However if you didn't use it at all they could trip over the hose at any time.
I was told by h&s cones are adequate do that will do
For me
Was that the HSE or someone with H&S training?
In my other life which involves H&S I have noticed that even trained H&S people have a variety of views depending on how well they have been trained and their own personality and view of H&S.
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That picture looks like elf'n'safety gone crazy.
If that was me there would be one cone and I'd ensure the hose lay flat.
I agree
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By the time you have pulled the hose round the
Back of the house then come back to the van
To put safety mat over hose on the pavement
Someone could of already tripped over the hose!
Unless you put cones out the you would be covered!
So wasted of time IMO
I work as follows: I place the hosereel on the house side of the footpath, connect the reel to the van outlet with a patch piece of hose, cover the patch piece with the mat, then take the end of the hose to the house. The hose acroos the path is only exposed for a few seconds till I cover it with the mat - and I'm in attendance anyway so can ward off any evil pedestrians :-) .
Usually one cone and one mat. Very occasionally more of either if the path is very wide for instance but that is rarely an issue.
That sounds like you have it sorted. I like the Idea of a patch piece to the hose reel.
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We need to see a video of a mobility scooter trying to pass between those cones.
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We need to see a video of a mobility scooter trying to pass between those cones.
You're quite right it has narrowed the pathway too much. I need a larger mat. The cones are holding down the edges to a degree.
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:D :D :D so ridiculous this mat with cones!
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We need to see a video of a mobility scooter trying to pass between those cones.
It'll be on the Top Gear Christmas DVD with Jeremy Clarkson getting particularly animated.
I do that with a safety mat.........but I put it over a manhole with the cover removed :D.
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Has anyone actually tripped over microbore hose?
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How many of us in all honesty park up and use the 100m to its full advantage?
I've got one where I can cover 3 streets and a cul de sac without moving the van 21 houses in total.
I'd need a big mat for that ;D
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Park on the lawn :)
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How many of us in all honesty park up and use the 100m to its full advantage?
I've got one where I can cover 3 streets and a cul de sac without moving the van 21 houses in total.
I'd need a big mat for that ;D
Maybe you could share some photos.
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How many of us in all honesty park up and use the 100m to its full advantage?
I've got one where I can cover 3 streets and a cul de sac without moving the van 21 houses in total.
I'd need a big mat for that ;D
Maybe you could share some photos.
Tbh I reckon most on here do the same as me.
I could do all you suggest and keep moving the van and putting the mat out (mats are unsafe by the way) but I'd half my hourly rate.
Photos? When I'm out there its to clean windows not faff taking photos.
The hose is bright yellow about 8mm thick and I make sure its laid nice and flat.
The problem with window cleaning is its very easy, some might say boring, so we invent issues to keep the old grey matter ticking over ;D
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How many of us in all honesty park up and use the 100m to its full advantage?
I've got one where I can cover 3 streets and a cul de sac without moving the van 21 houses in total.
I'd need a big mat for that ;D
Maybe you could share some photos.
Tbh I reckon most on here do the same as me.
I could do all you suggest and keep moving the van and putting the mat out (mats are unsafe by the way) but I'd half my hourly rate.
Photos? When I'm out there its to clean windows not faff taking photos.
The hose is bright yellow about 8mm thick and I make sure its laid nice and flat.
The problem with window cleaning is its very easy, some might say boring, so we invent issues to keep the old grey matter ticking over ;D
Maybe some have 'evolved' further and improve the average. ;D
Are you still part time?
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Devolve I reckon.
Yep still part time, why?
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Devolve I reckon.
Yep still part time, why?
Just chatting.
Didn't get the chance at the Impact workshop. There were a couple of Barnsley lads complaining about the prices they could charge. I remember you saying the same for your work in Killamarsh.
I use the fact that I'm ahead of the pack in my area as a selling point to customers and therefore drive up the prices.
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I'm out of Killamarsh now ;D
I'm doing ok price wise on the new stuff but would like to charge more.
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I'm out of Killamarsh now ;D
I'm doing ok price wise on the new stuff but would like to charge more.
I think the key is to keep looking for fresh areas/customers and keep your prices going upward.
I have none of the work I started with in 1991.
Like I said evolve and reinvention are key.
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I dont think its enough,you need to be towing this behind the van in case you run low on cones!
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By the time you have pulled the hose round the
Back of the house then come back to the van
To put safety mat over hose on the pavement
Someone could of already tripped over the hose!
Unless you put cones out the you would be covered!
So wasted of time IMO
I work as follows: I place the hosereel on the house side of the footpath, connect the reel to the van outlet with a patch piece of hose, cover the patch piece with the mat, then take the end of the hose to the house. The hose acroos the path is only exposed for a few seconds till I cover it with the mat - and I'm in attendance anyway so can ward off any evil pedestrians :-) .
Usually one cone and one mat. Very occasionally more of either if the path is very wide for instance but that is rarely an issue.
100% ;D
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where'd you get your safety mat? i'm going to get one
The one in the picture is just rubber matting which isn't really heavy enough so I'm still looking.
I'll ask Jamie in the office to put up a link to the supplier we sourced, nice mat, but pricey at £100
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I just cordon the road off.
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Park on the drive ?
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how many house you do each day?
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both of them.
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prayer mat at work whatever next.
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Personally for me, working with the rear van door open is a big no-no.
I think this has the potential to do someone more damage than a trip from a hose, especially on windy days.
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What you want is a cable protection ramp.
www.pittmantraffic.co.uk
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how many house you do each day?
Who are you asking?
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What you want is a cable protection ramp.
www.pittmantraffic.co.uk
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Looks like the business. 8)
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That's ridiculous that thing. You'll be tripping grannies up all over the gaff. It'll be like the bleedin' Somme!
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Go to the Cable tidy and hose ramp section and look at the
G H P black rubber one. It says it for indoor use but
cant see why it wouldn't do outside.
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What you want is a cable protection ramp.
www.pittmantraffic.co.uk
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Looks like the business. 8)
Looks like a trip hazard to me.
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Go to the Cable tidy and hose ramp section and look at the
G H P black rubber one. It says it for indoor use but
cant see why it wouldn't do outside.
Go to where? A link would clarify I'm sure.
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Go to the web page www.pittmantraffic.co.uk
On the left you will see a list of different items for sale
Click on the cable tidy and hose ramp section.
The link wouldn't work.
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Go to the web page www.pittmantraffic.co.uk
On the left you will see a list of different items for sale
Click on the cable tidy and hose ramp section.
The link wouldn't work.
They are made for a specific purpose. i.e HGV's, not pedestrians! People are more likely to fall over that than your hose!!
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As per my other thread: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=168844.0
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Your hose is coloured yellow for a reason. Why would you insist on covering it with a black mat!!
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As per my other thread: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=168844.0
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Your hose is coloured yellow for a reason. Why would you insist on covering it with a black mat!!
You're quite right. I will have to address this issue with a new batch of photos.
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As per my other thread: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=168844.0
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Your hose is coloured yellow for a reason. Why would you insist on covering it with a black mat!!
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As per my other thread: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=168844.0
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Your hose is coloured yellow for a reason. Why would you insist on covering it with a black mat!!
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What is that made of?
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Rubber
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As per my other thread: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=168844.0
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Your hose is coloured yellow for a reason. Why would you insist on covering it with a black mat!!
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y388/Stuart_Webster/20130422_135834_zps3428a6a9.jpg)
What is that made of?
Photoshop? ;D
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Proves nothing. :P
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Window cleaning used to be so simple,where did it all go wrong?? :)
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Window cleaning used to be so simple,where did it all go wrong?? :)
Ambulance chasing no win no fee "have you had an accident that was not your fault" lawyers.
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I'm all for trying to make it safe but that's just overboard really, a person can just as easily trip over on the edge of that mat as they can some 6mm hose. Its really simple if you want to be totally safe and cover yourself on domestics then use a trolley or backpack.
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As per my other thread: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=168844.0
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Your hose is coloured yellow for a reason. Why would you insist on covering it with a black mat!!
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y388/Stuart_Webster/20130422_135834_zps3428a6a9.jpg)
What is that made of?
lets be honest, we all know its a thin layer of custard.
can I also say that I just run the hose over the pavement, sometimes I don't even use a cone, it is, after all, as has previously been stated, a YELLOW hose
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WHAT IF THE POLE FALLS OVER? ;D
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WHAT IF THE POLE FALLS OVER? ;D
What pole?
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Nice.
Ann Summers?
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i just think your being paranoid and defo over thinking this.
just put a cone out and make sure hose is flat to the ground.itll save you time and you just might be able to squeeze a few more jobs in a day and make more money.
regards
dazmond
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WHAT IF THE POLE FALLS OVER? ;D
What pole?
The one you use on the end of your yellow hose that's covered with a yellow mat in case someone trips over your yellow hose.
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WHAT IF THE POLE FALLS OVER? ;D
What pole?
The one you use on the end of your yellow hose that's covered with a yellow mat in case someone trips over your yellow hose.
In the van.
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i just think your being paranoid and defo over thinking this.
just put a cone out and make sure hose is flat to the ground.itll save you time and you just might be able to squeeze a few more jobs in a day and make more money.
regards
dazmond
I'm cleaning two of Chatsworth Estates pubs tomorrow. Guests coming and going all day. Just the job for outside the main door!
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frank gallagher WILL trip over your matt defo as he ll be blind drunk and probably necked a few dodgy E s!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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frank gallagher WILL trip over your matt defo as he ll be blind drunk and probably necked a few dodgy E s!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D
Wrong Chatsworh Dazmond!
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Just to prove to Dazmond which 'Chatsworth Estate' I was refering to:
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buy a backpack...end of issue :)
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buy a backpack...end of issue :)
Lifting and filling issues.
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buy a backpack...end of issue :)
Lifting and filling issues.
get somebody else to lift and fill for you ;D
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Lifting and filling issues.
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I've heard it all from you know I bet you even work in one of these.
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Lifting and filling issues.
I've heard it all from you know I bet you even work in one of these.
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How would that work?
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buy a backpack...end of issue :)
Lifting and filling issues.
Lift it out empty,fill,use and repeat as required. If this is too much to lift empty then maybe window cleaning is not for you!! Maybe a nice job in a bubble wrap factory or summit! ;)
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buy a backpack...end of issue :)
Lifting and filling issues.
Lift it out empty,fill,use and repeat as required. If this is too much to lift empty then maybe window cleaning is not for you!! Maybe a nice job in a bubble wrap factory or summit! ;)
Factory work is not for me. I doubt they would pay me £200 per day!
I have used backpacks in the past. What a massive faff.
I really don't see what is so troublesome about taking 15 seconds to put a mat over the hose.
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im not WFP but if I was id fear the hose- over- path issue- pound to a pinch o muck somebody will trip at sometime (some on purpose) and the risk is high
old folk fall hard and fast, ye gods what would you do then??
this reminds me , a few years back a lonely man customer followed me as I was returning to my van with the ladders on my shoulder and he hit his forehead on my ladder feet /although I was walking away from him at a fair pace ,he managed to nut the feet and then cried out "oh,oh my head blah blah" ,
now im sure he did it on purpose, wanted to start a claim ,not for the money,but for THE ATTENTION and form filling . luckily for me,there was no mark on his forehead and the moment passed
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im not WFP but if I was id fear the hose- over- path issue- pound to a pinch o muck somebody will trip at sometime (some on purpose) and the risk is high
old folk fall hard and fast, ye gods what would you do then??
I think what happens is that when we start with wfp we are aware of the dangers and open to 'best practice'. As time goes on we get a bit complacent as we work with the hose every day. Passers by aren't really expecting it, especially the old or partially sighted.
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As anyone actually had a customer sue them for tripping over a hose??,never seen it on here yet,although i am fairly new to the forum.
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As anyone actually had a customer sue them for tripping over a hose??,never seen it on here yet,although i am fairly new to the forum.
Not to my knowledge no. That said I don't wish to be the first.
I remember a chap being done for someone tripping over his black hose. Now we all use yellow.
It only takes one!