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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 01:28:16 pm

Title: Inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 01:28:16 pm
i have an old manor with leaded windows and double glazing panels to clean (inside)
I can remove each panel, what is the best way to clean them(both side)?
many thanks
Ben
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: 8weekly on April 07, 2013, 01:35:41 pm
Get someone else to do it. Sounds a pain in the backside job. Especially as a One-off. I did one similar last summer and would never do one again.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 01:40:16 pm
Get someone else to do it. Sounds a pain in the backside job. Especially as a One-off. I did one similar last summer and would never do one again.
it wasn't my question,was it?  >:(
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: Stephen Fox on April 07, 2013, 01:46:34 pm
Are you on your own doing this?
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 01:47:59 pm
Are you on your own doing this?

yes i am  :'(
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: Stephen Fox on April 07, 2013, 01:50:17 pm
Ok, really need two people on a job like this - one takes the panes out and holds while the other cleans. You should fly through it when you get a routine going. Can you get someone in to help? On your own will be a bit of a mission
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 01:52:07 pm
i know but i am on my own so what is the best way to do it then?
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: Stephen Fox on April 07, 2013, 01:57:09 pm
Slightly damp microfibre on the leaded, maybe another dry one if really dirty. I'd bring a few in as backups and replacements. squeegee the panes.

Personally i would take out all the panes first then clean the leaded. Then go back and clean the panes and put them back - tend to work faster doing the same job rather than chopping and changing (taking pane out, cleaning it, cleaning the leaded then putting panes back, etc). Without seeing the job it's a guess though.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: 8weekly on April 07, 2013, 02:11:21 pm
Get someone else to do it. Sounds a pain in the backside job. Especially as a One-off. I did one similar last summer and would never do one again.
it wasn't my question,was it?  >:(

Just giving my thoughts.

I hope you have priced well. The one I did last year was well priced, but fiddly and even though it took a day and a half, you could tell that they thought £50 would be the right price. I decided when I finished that I wouldn't do another one like it. The biggest problems were that the windows were filthy inside and out and the amount of junk in front of the windows. I don't think they had been done for a couple of years.

The above said, as a two man job it wouldn't be so bad - as Stephen said.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 02:20:24 pm
Get someone else to do it. Sounds a pain in the backside job. Especially as a One-off. I did one similar last summer and would never do one again.
it wasn't my question,was it?  >:(

Just giving my thoughts.

I hope you have priced well. The one I did last year was well priced, but fiddly and even though it took a day and a half, you could tell that they thought £50 would be the right price. I decided when I finished that I wouldn't do another one like it. The biggest problems were that the windows were filthy inside and out and the amount of junk in front of the windows. I don't think they had been done for a couple of years.

The above said, as a two man job it wouldn't be so bad - as Stephen said.
i do the outside every 6 weeks. £375 for the inside, should take me 2 days i reckon
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: Michael Peterson on April 07, 2013, 03:36:58 pm
id be charging a lot more than that for a pain in the bum one off taking 2 days
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: jimiwindows on April 07, 2013, 04:50:22 pm
take double glazing panels out to clean but make sure you put them back the way you took them out.if you are alone just lean panels up against wall if on carpet make sure you put something under panels when you clean.good luck its not that hard.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: Mike #1 on April 07, 2013, 05:56:41 pm
It can really depend on how easy or difficult the secondry glazed units are to remove and replace some can be real pain I do custys twice a year and it takes me an hour to do 3 windows which are 130cm x 75cm approx . Mik
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on April 07, 2013, 06:27:20 pm
id be charging a lot more than that for a pain in the bum one off taking 2 days

£375 plus the outside price... that's over £200 a day... by yourself!

Yet you would charge 'a lot more' than that?

What would you charge Michael?

I'd be happy with over £200 a day...
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: PoleKing on April 07, 2013, 06:38:08 pm
James-think most WFPers on here would charge more than c.£20p/h.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on April 07, 2013, 06:43:03 pm
James-think most WFPers on here would charge more than c.£20p/h.


Its easily £25.00 plus, as there is still the outside price to take into consideration.

Your at one house, no travelleing.

Id be happy with that, didnt say you wouldnt, I WOULD.


My question was what would Michael charge.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: PoleKing on April 07, 2013, 06:52:21 pm
That's fair enough.
I wasn't digging bud-just saying.
It'd probably depend where in the country someone is too.
Southern lads seem to charge more-probably because property is more expensive in general.
Be interesting to find out Micheal's hourly rate and where he is in the country-if he wants to share.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: 8weekly on April 07, 2013, 07:11:57 pm
id be charging a lot more than that for a pain in the bum one off taking 2 days

£375 plus the outside price... that's over £200 a day... by yourself!

Yet you would charge 'a lot more' than that?

What would you charge Michael?

I'd be happy with over £200 a day...
I think for a pain in the backside one off, you have to be earning more than for your regular work. If you would normally turnover less than £190 a day, then it's good money. If you t/o more than that, then it isn't so good.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 08:03:35 pm
thanks guys
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: sunshine windows on April 07, 2013, 09:42:12 pm
I did one similar last summer.

As said earlier, remove all the secondary double glazing and make sure you know which panes came from which windows.

When cleaning, make sure you have plenty of old cloths or towels to soak up all the dirty water or you'll be making stains on carpets or wooden floors.

If you are leaning them against internal walls to clean, make sure you have protection at the point of contact, you'll either damage the wallpaper or scuff the paint.

It took us around 22 man hours to do 72 large windows, both sides of secondary units and inside and out of main windows. They were absolutely plastered in fly poop and dead flies everywhere.

Good luck

Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 09:43:54 pm
I did one similar last summer.

As said earlier, remove all the secondary double glazing and make sure you know which panes came from which windows.

When cleaning, make sure you have plenty of old cloths or towels to soak up all the dirty water or you'll be making stains on carpets or wooden floors.

If you are leaning them against internal walls to clean, make sure you have protection at the point of contact, you'll either damage the wallpaper or scuff the paint.

It took us around 22 man hours to do 72 large windows, both sides of secondary units and inside and out of main windows. They were absolutely plastered in fly poop and dead flies everywhere.

Good luck


thank you
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: sunshine windows on April 07, 2013, 11:12:12 pm
You're welcome.

I forgot to mention, I just put down plenty of protection on the floor and used an applicator (just damp) and squeegee to clean the secondary double glazing units.

They were that dirty, there was no way a light spray and rub with microfibres was going to get them up to scratch.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 07, 2013, 11:14:11 pm
You're welcome.

I forgot to mention, I just put down plenty of protection on the floor and used an applicator (just damp) and squeegee to clean the secondary double glazing units.

They were that dirty, there was no way a light spray and rub with microfibres was going to get them up to scratch.
they are not very dirty, what do you mean by light spray?
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: sunshine windows on April 08, 2013, 07:00:09 am
Some people use a household squirty spray bottle, filled with your normal mix of solution for cleaning windows trad. Just spray a light mist and microfibres off. No running water involved with this method.
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: Smudger on April 08, 2013, 07:50:43 am
good advice from sunshine - i also take a vacuum (Henry) because usually you get a lot of dead insects
and flaking paint behind the units and it's easier to clean after vac'ing the debris and then you can
clean up after yourself ( essential when the custy has £80.00 sq meter carpet or hand woven Persian rugs  >:(  )

Darran
Title: Re: inside clean,help please
Post by: 8weekly on April 08, 2013, 08:02:50 am
I just use pure. Mind you I have never cleaned really dirty leaded inside. The example above were sash.
Title: Re: Inside clean,help please
Post by: A@R WINDOWCLEANING on April 08, 2013, 06:29:07 pm
Ive done a few like this just remove them put them on a few cloths laid out and quickly trad both sides ,personally the quickest and most thorough way to do it good luck mate
Title: Re: Inside clean,help please
Post by: ben M on April 08, 2013, 07:30:28 pm
Ive done a few like this just remove them put them on a few cloths laid out and quickly trad both sides ,personally the quickest and most thorough way to do it good luck mate
good idea,thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Inside clean,help please
Post by: Fin Clearview on April 08, 2013, 09:06:38 pm
i have an old manor with leaded windows and double glazing panels to clean (inside)
I can remove each panel, what is the best way to clean them(both side)?
many thanks
Ben

I think we call this secondary glazing. Squeegee both sides. Spray and microfibre lead lights.