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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ben M on March 30, 2013, 08:16:04 am
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The New SLXII
Product Overview
Featuring the world's most advanced WFP clamping system
Any pics somewhere?
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are there different clamps, if there are it will be some awesome pole
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apparently! can't wait to see them!
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someone must be testing them for alex
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someone must be testing them for alex
exactly
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;)
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;)
you? ;)
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Me?
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yes you?
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I wish ;D
i think Alex has been testing himself for the last 3 months or so..
Depends on what changes there are, if it's just clamps then it's no big deal, but lighter stronger, shorter closed lengths then we will be in for a treat !
Darran
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The excitement builds! Do we have a date for them yet?
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Im waiting for more info on them...
My current slx is near the end, its about 4 years old has had all new section at various intervals and new brushes and new goose neck.
Ha ha it must be Triggers broom!
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I heard that the new slx11 is going to be cheaper than the old slx's that were in the sale ??? ;D
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Dont see why they would sell them any cheaper Steve? But a new set of 22s is top of to buy list ;-)
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I am going to wait for the slx III.
Seriously it is about time Alex sorted the clamps out. I think this will be the major difference.
As I see it there are 3 good poles out there: Gardiners range, Facelift and the new x-line poles. Happy days.
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Anybody knows what happened to the waterfedpolecompany? Their website's been offline for ages.Their distributors don't stock their poles anymore.
I need a few clamps for my Elite pole :-[
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I am awaiting all sizes to test
Alex must of forgot its bank hol mon
Maybe they will arrive Tuesday onwards ;D
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Dont see why they would sell them any cheaper Steve? But a new set of 22s is top of to buy list ;-)
I was only joking Ads, just to irratate the ones who brought the slx's that were on sale ;D
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Anybody knows what happened to the waterfedpolecompany? Their website's been offline for ages.Their distributors don't stock their poles anymore.
I need a few clamps for my Elite pole :-[
X-Line evolution poles use the same clamps mate . Mike
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whats wrong with the current clamps ? - never had any probs with them
very tempted to get the slx 30 thats on sale at present but interested in the specs for the new range.
the x-line looks good but prob stick with what i know for carrying spares etc...
Darran
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Dont see why they would sell them any cheaper Steve? But a new set of 22s is top of to buy list ;-)
I was only joking Ads, just to irratate the ones who brought the slx's that were on sale ;D
LoL
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whats wrong with the current clamps ? - never had any probs with them
very tempted to get the slx 30 thats on sale at present but interested in the specs for the new range.
the x-line looks good but prob stick with what i know for carrying spares etc...
Darran
Mine constantly need adjusting due to uneven pole wear.
I did a poll on here a while back and the majority of those who responded experienced the same problem of having to adjust clamps on an hourly basis. To help counter this I generally do not fully close sections so the clamps bite on a less worn section. (I do look after my poles, keep pole hose clean etc.)
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whats wrong with the current clamps ? - never had any probs with them
very tempted to get the slx 30 thats on sale at present but interested in the specs for the new range.
the x-line looks good but prob stick with what i know for carrying spares etc...
Darran
Mine constantly need adjusting due to uneven pole wear.
I did a poll on here a while back and the majority of those who responded experienced the same problem of having to adjust clamps on an hourly basis. To help counter this I generally do not fully close sections so the clamps bite on a less worn section. (I do look after my poles, keep pole hose clean etc.)
i know mine is the same and after just a year i have 2 worn sections. I will probably buy a facelift when i can change it ( i clean completely my pole every week)
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is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?
Darran
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is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ? YES
or at various places along the length?
Darran
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is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?
Darran
the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins
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is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?
Darran
the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins
This sounds like you have a faulty section as this is not a usual feature!
Drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk and I can look into replacing this for you.
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is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?
Darran
the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins
i reckon i have the exact same problem on 2 sections of a slx i brought a couple of weeks back, from brand new i found the top section of the pole (last 3 inches or so) was thinner the the bottom of the section so i have been having the problem when i have to slightly adjust it for the top by tightening it i cant then fully close the clamp when pole was extended or if it did lock over it was very hard to undo the clamp to collapse it. I wanted to measure the outside diameter of the pole but dont have the right tool for the job (verniers i think). I thought it wasn't the case but now you have said the same thing it must be a slight difference in outside diameter.
I also have a brand new slx i haven't even unwrapped so i'm gonna see if thats the same. Also i know it cant be the clamp that's loosening as there is some sort of clue on the thread of the bolt to stop this happening.
Paul
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Paul - yes a digital vernier or micrometer is waht you need - pop into any engineering co. and i'm sure
they would quickly measure the size for you.
The wear on mine ( over 3 years ) is on the first inch or so - my opinion is this will happen regardless
of any clamp design/company - i started out with brodex 18 ft pole ( aluminium ) and the same wear evident on that pole - different clamp design and differnet pole materials
Darran
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whats wrong with the current clamps ?
They come unglued.
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re glue them !
i use superglue gel - never to come apart again ;D
Darran
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Paul - yes a digital vernier or micrometer is waht you need - pop into any engineering co. and i'm sure
they would quickly measure the size for you.
The wear on mine ( over 3 years ) is on the first inch or so - my opinion is this will happen regardless
of any clamp design/company
I agree. I had the same problem with xtel poles.
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i agree with what your saying, this pole is only a few weeks old tho..
To be honest all previous poles ive had from gardiners have been fine the odd clamp coming loose which i just glued back on (although i do think the clamps could be improved on as ive found they do need constant adjusting a bit after a while), just this one needed adjusting from the start..i have had something similar before with a couple of older poles when i brought a couple of extensions for a 22ft slx where as 1 of the poles base section fitted into the extensions the other one wouldn't (would only go in about 5 - 6 inches then wouldn't budge) in fairness alex did mention to contact him about it but it wasn't necessary for it to fit both poles so didn't bother.
So i do think that not every pole is exactly the same diameter but i also would think that this would be almost impossible to get every pole the same there must be some tolerance differences to be expected.
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is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?
Darran
the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins
i reckon i have the exact same problem on 2 sections of a slx i brought a couple of weeks back, from brand new i found the top section of the pole (last 3 inches or so) was thinner the the bottom of the section so i have been having the problem when i have to slightly adjust it for the top by tightening it i cant then fully close the clamp when pole was extended or if it did lock over it was very hard to undo the clamp to collapse it. I wanted to measure the outside diameter of the pole but dont have the right tool for the job (verniers i think). I thought it wasn't the case but now you have said the same thing it must be a slight difference in outside diameter.
I also have a brand new slx i haven't even unwrapped so i'm gonna see if thats the same. Also i know it cant be the clamp that's loosening as there is some sort of clue on the thread of the bolt to stop this happening.
Paul
Hi Paul
It sounds as if you have also got a section that is faulty. Drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk with the details and we can get this sorted for you.
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Paul - yes a digital vernier or micrometer is waht you need - pop into any engineering co. and i'm sure
they would quickly measure the size for you.
The wear on mine ( over 3 years ) is on the first inch or so - my opinion is this will happen regardless
of any clamp design/company - i started out with brodex 18 ft pole ( aluminium ) and the same wear evident on that pole - different clamp design and differnet pole materials
Darran
I did not have the same issues with the univerals and xtel poles I used to use. Clamps needed adjusting occasionally but not hourly or even more.
I think/hope Alex has resolved this now. Having been using one of the new quick loc fittings on my brush and find it good as it stops brush twisting on the thread.
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re glue them !
i use superglue gel - never to come apart again ;D
Darran
Which glue do you use out of interest just ordered S-Max and would like a glue which actually works as lot of super glues are pretty useless .
Used time bond glue around the house which is fantastic but really needs a good 12 hrs or so to fully set . Mike
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re glue them !
i use superglue gel - never to come apart again ;D
Darran
Which glue do you use out of interest just ordered S-Max and would like a glue which actually works as lot of super glues are pretty useless .
Used time bond glue around the house which is fantastic but really needs a good 12 hrs or so to fully set . Mike
I think Gardiner's recommend an epoxy based one. I have used the one they supply and perhaps it is the way I do it, but the fix only lasts 2-3 months. It doesn't cost a huge amount of time, but it is annoying.
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I find the 2part glue Gardiners supply crap to.
I use the araldite 2 part epoxy, i find that better
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re glue them !
i use superglue gel - never to come apart again ;D
Darran
Which glue do you use out of interest just ordered S-Max and would like a glue which actually works as lot of super glues are pretty useless .
Used time bond glue around the house which is fantastic but really needs a good 12 hrs or so to fully set . Mike
We do not sell our poles in the anticipation that clamps will become detached ;D and in reality this rarely happens.
Most twin pack epoxy based glues will work well - the key is in the surface preparation.
With most of my current prototype and testing poles I do not glue the clamps on at all. I simply put a wrap of insulating tape around the end of the section and jam the clamp body on to the section - works well and would also work if a clamp did come loose during a day's work - only about a minute's downtime.
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
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Just looked at your site Alex and I'm very impressed are the pole weights with brush or bear??
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
It is always good to be prepared.
One of the things I learned early on with WFP is to keep spares!
I now always keep a spare pump for each operator, complete set of spare connectors and fittings. I also always try to have a full tool kit on board and a faithful roll of insulating tape - good for electrical, water or fixing issues.
I usually have a spare pole on board as well just in case I leave one behind somewhere or it gets run-over - never happened, but you never know.
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Just looked at your site Alex and I'm very impressed are the pole weights with brush or bear??
The pole weights are just for the poles - including the end-cap and full clamp assemblies.
Brush weights are listed separately and will vary depending on the brush chosen.
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MR Gardiner,you told us SLXII is coming April 2013.
It's the 1st of April 2013 today,your time is up.
Can we see the poles?
Pretty please ;D
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MR Gardiner,you told us SLXII is coming April 2013.
It's the 1st of April 2013 today,your time is up.
Can we see the poles?
Pretty please ;D
Still got up to 29 days to play with :)
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
It is always good to be prepared.
One of the things I learned early on with WFP is to keep spares!
I now always keep a spare pump for each operator, complete set of spare connectors and fittings. I also always try to have a full tool kit on board and a faithful roll of insulating tape - good for electrical, water or fixing issues.
I usually have a spare pole on board as well just in case I leave one behind somewhere or it gets run-over - never happened, but you never know.
I had a pole run over once.
Alex may you can put this in your sales manifesto
"If you SLX should happen to get run over by a Toyota Hilux, fear not, because only the base section will split abit. You can feel contented, that you pole will not be crushed, but rather, will lift one wheel up of the ground"
Feel free to use that pithy quote
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
It is always good to be prepared.
One of the things I learned early on with WFP is to keep spares!
I now always keep a spare pump for each operator, complete set of spare connectors and fittings. I also always try to have a full tool kit on board and a faithful roll of insulating tape - good for electrical, water or fixing issues.
I usually have a spare pole on board as well just in case I leave one behind somewhere or it gets run-over - never happened, but you never know.
I had a pole run over once.
Alex may you can put this in your sales manifesto
"If you SLX should happen to get run over by a Toyota Hilux, fear not, because only the base section will split abit. You can feel contented, that you pole will not be crushed, but rather, will lift one wheel up of the ground"
Feel free to use that pithy quote
Rushing to update the website as I type ;D
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the slx I just got the clamp bolt are realy hard to tighten or un tighten any suggestion s alex
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the slx I just got the clamp bolt are realy hard to tighten or un tighten any suggestion s alex
This will be the Nylock on the new bolts being slightly tight. When initially setting the clamps up (although they should have come correctly adjusted for first use) you may need to use a pair of pliers to tighten to exactly the right point. Once set you should not need to adjust this for a long time. As the pole ages these Nylock bolts will become less tight and easier to adjust using just your fingertips.
What can also help greatly is to tighten up and undo the bolt 2 or 3 times with pliers as this wears off the 'edge' from the Nylock and should make them adjustable with fingertips for future use.
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
It is always good to be prepared.
One of the things I learned early on with WFP is to keep spares!
I now always keep a spare pump for each operator, complete set of spare connectors and fittings. I also always try to have a full tool kit on board and a faithful roll of insulating tape - good for electrical, water or fixing issues.
I usually have a spare pole on board as well just in case I leave one behind somewhere or it gets run-over - never happened, but you never know.
I had a pole run over once.
Alex may you can put this in your sales manifesto
"If you SLX should happen to get run over by a Toyota Hilux, fear not, because only the base section will split abit. You can feel contented, that you pole will not be crushed, but rather, will lift one wheel up of the ground"
Feel free to use that pithy quote
I like it! ;D ;D ;D Next time I have a pole break, I might just tell my wife that story! ;) ;)
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
It is always good to be prepared.
One of the things I learned early on with WFP is to keep spares!
I now always keep a spare pump for each operator, complete set of spare connectors and fittings. I also always try to have a full tool kit on board and a faithful roll of insulating tape - good for electrical, water or fixing issues.
I usually have a spare pole on board as well just in case I leave one behind somewhere or it gets run-over - never happened, but you never know.
I had a pole run over once.
Alex may you can put this in your sales manifesto
"If you SLX should happen to get run over by a Toyota Hilux, fear not, because only the base section will split abit. You can feel contented, that you pole will not be crushed, but rather, will lift one wheel up of the ground"
Feel free to use that pithy quote
I have given this quote its own testimonial page.
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SL-X_TESTIMONIAL.html
This page will however self-destruct before midnight tonight ;D
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
It is always good to be prepared.
One of the things I learned early on with WFP is to keep spares!
I now always keep a spare pump for each operator, complete set of spare connectors and fittings. I also always try to have a full tool kit on board and a faithful roll of insulating tape - good for electrical, water or fixing issues.
I usually have a spare pole on board as well just in case I leave one behind somewhere or it gets run-over - never happened, but you never know.
I had a pole run over once.
Alex may you can put this in your sales manifesto
"If you SLX should happen to get run over by a Toyota Hilux, fear not, because only the base section will split abit. You can feel contented, that you pole will not be crushed, but rather, will lift one wheel up of the ground"
Feel free to use that pithy quote
I have given this quote its own testimonial page.
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SL-X_TESTIMONIAL.html
This page will however self-destruct before midnight tonight ;D
Sadly Steve its a true story.
Thanks to print screen, it will live on in My Pictures for ever.
Maybe one day it will be worth some money.
Oh and it made me laugh, not the pole being run over, that made me cry
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Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike
It is always good to be prepared.
One of the things I learned early on with WFP is to keep spares!
I now always keep a spare pump for each operator, complete set of spare connectors and fittings. I also always try to have a full tool kit on board and a faithful roll of insulating tape - good for electrical, water or fixing issues.
I usually have a spare pole on board as well just in case I leave one behind somewhere or it gets run-over - never happened, but you never know.
I had a pole run over once.
Alex may you can put this in your sales manifesto
"If you SLX should happen to get run over by a Toyota Hilux, fear not, because only the base section will split abit. You can feel contented, that you pole will not be crushed, but rather, will lift one wheel up of the ground"
Feel free to use that pithy quote
I have given this quote its own testimonial page.
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SL-X_TESTIMONIAL.html
This page will however self-destruct before midnight tonight ;D
Excellent! You should keep the page, everyone loves humour, well...most. ;D ;D ;D
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I have given this quote its own testimonial page.
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/SL-X_TESTIMONIAL.html
This page will however self-destruct before midnight tonight ;D
Haha awesome!
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Just looked at your site Alex and I'm very impressed are the pole weights with brush or bear??
Quite heavy with a bear on the end I should imagine! ;D
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Do not search the Google with the keyword "dancingbear".
I don't ;D
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I'm going to work my slx till there's noting left of it! :D
My slx 25 must be getting onto 3 year old now - given it so much stick but it's still going !!
It's been dropped, thrown, abused in sand, rarely cleaned but still going !
I have just treated it to a full set of clamps.
It's shorter due to top and bottom of each section being trimmed bout a couple inches.
It's thinner after all the work it's done.
It has no end stop on section 2, this is because I use it as short caravan brush with different brush head.
I've loved it so much I just bought a slx35.
It doesn't feel that much heavier, or more awkward to work with.
The pole is much numptyblier / ribbed !! Trying to remember if the 25 was like that new ??