Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Burbidge on March 27, 2013, 05:09:48 pm
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How many of you own an Ionic system in this forum or any other system where you must buy your refills from the manufacturer ?
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Not me
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No,
Absolute waste of money imo
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Got ionic don't buy from refills as use eagle ipc to make my pure water.
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Got ionic don't buy from refills as use eagle ipc to make my pure water.
So you have an Ionic system? do you mean it is a water delivery only system and you make your water in a static tank with the Eagle IPC unit?
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I too have an Ionic system but don't need to use their filters as the water is so soft where I live.
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I got an Ionic system, and do buy refils from them but to be honest I havent bought any from them for just over two years now as I do maintain the system every day and although they state changing some every 300,000 l I still havent and have gone way over that and my water is still coming out at 0ppm, even the DI filter has still got the blue coloured resin in it and still has probably about 5/6 months of life left before I have to replace it, and I will only go by my tds as to when I need to change them
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I have a pure2o system which is ionics tank and frame but with a normal 4040 system .
Best of both worlds and can get filters / resin from anywhere .
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that robert, is a very sensible thing do do
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I have the Pro 6 best system I have had
Martin
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Hi
I have got the filters bolted to a static water tank.
Its the only system I've ever used so I don't know if there is a better way.
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Thanks micheal .
I dont see the point in all the special filters when the 4040 does the same job cheaper .
It gets my tds down from 250 down to six from ro then 0 with resin .
And you csn buy pre filters , membrane and resin from anywhere .
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Pro 6 with all Ionic filter's no problem.
Now 4 years old.
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whether you use a diy system or mftr fitted system regardless of brand - if you get 0 tds and have no problem with system how do you agree that its worth paying hundreds or 1000s more for a system?
i love the idea of ionics for more reasons than the system alone - ie service centres round the country quick and easy replacement of cartridges.
but i wonder of the likes of these machines are better suited to guys that do a lot of large commercial stuff and even multi man operators as oppose to the one man band?
would love an ionics but reality is that i couldnt justify the spend on my sized business unless it was 3 times the current size and then would i not just be busy paying for a system i could have got for half the price?
thoughts / debate or argument anyone? lol ;D
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I got an Ionic system, and do buy refils from them but to be honest I havent bought any from them for just over two years now as I do maintain the system every day and although they state changing some every 300,000 l I still havent and have gone way over that and my water is still coming out at 0ppm, even the DI filter has still got the blue coloured resin in it and still has probably about 5/6 months of life left before I have to replace it, and I will only go by my tds as to when I need to change them
Yeah me too. Actually Sam managed to get almost a year out of one colour change resin. Do you think thats normal? How many on here dont have a system like this but use a DI vessel.... how much resin do you use in a year?
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I have the Pro 6 best system I have had
Martin
How often have you changed your filters Martin?
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Thanks micheal .
I dont see the point in all the special filters when the 4040 does the same job cheaper .
It gets my tds down from 250 down to six from ro then 0 with resin .
And you csn buy pre filters , membrane and resin from anywhere .
What you paying for your refills?
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whether you use a diy system or mftr fitted system regardless of brand - if you get 0 tds and have no problem with system how do you agree that its worth paying hundreds or 1000s more for a system?
i love the idea of ionics for more reasons than the system alone - ie service centres round the country quick and easy replacement of cartridges.
but i wonder of the likes of these machines are better suited to guys that do a lot of large commercial stuff and even multi man operators as oppose to the one man band?
would love an ionics but reality is that i couldnt justify the spend on my sized business unless it was 3 times the current size and then would i not just be busy paying for a system i could have got for half the price?
thoughts / debate or argument anyone? lol ;D
Yeah the Ionic systems look nice and Ionic would term themselves as the Rolls Royce of the industry but there are much cheaper systems on the market now such as the GrippaMax and in the current climate cost is a factor wether you are buying refills or a complete system I think. Its something window cleaning business' are considering more so.......
I just got Sam to crack open an old Ionic blue resin cartridge and weigh its content. He didn't quite scrape it all out and it was still a little damp but it came to about 5kg. So thats £73.95+vat per 5kg. I have seen resin on offer in 25Kg bags for £65.00+vat. Does this mean that the Ionic resin is a higher grade than the 25kg bag? Would the 25kg bag resin last as long as the Ionic cartridge?
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Pure2o give you best of both worlds , ionics crash tested tank and frame , proper 4040 ro system , good build quality and service and its made and fitted at the same place by the same people .
And they will price match , they actually beat grippamax by over a grand in my case .
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Pure2o give you best of both worlds , ionics crash tested tank and frame , proper 4040 ro system , good build quality and service and its made and fitted at the same place by the same people .
And they will price match , they actually beat grippamax by over a grand in my case .
Thats good news saving that much hay :) Where do you live compared to Swindon or the depot you needed to take your van for fitting?
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I travelled from southampton to swindon , I have a membership for village hotels gyms so had a workout then relaxed in the pool , sauna etc and its within walking distance .
Service was really good as well .
To get that price I had quotes from grippa and brodex by email .
I negotiated all the quotes down but grippa wouldnt come down enough to get near pure2o .
The poles I got from ionics were not brilliant though , a grafter 32 was included in that 2250 .
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Hi Lee
Change the Resin about every 8 weeks and the filters when due, had the system just over a year and changed them once, I think we have put about 230.000 lt of water through them
Martin
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Ionics systems are an expensive option for people who dont know or cant be bothered to find out about how to purify water to cean windows, the colour coded resin cannister is great for those who cant be bothered and are clearly too rich to buy a tds meter. My opinion is that it is all a complete waste of time and money buying Ionics as it is really not that technical to work out that tap water needs to go through a pre filters then a decent membrane via large diameter pipe then through resin if you are keen to get it to zero TDS and thats it.
Save your money , get yourself a tank installed by a local mechanic/welder/bodyworker , get a pump and a controller from cleaning spot and call June at Gapswater and she wil tell you how to get pure water and supply you with the bits you need. This will save you a fortune and benefit you by understanding how it all works so when something goes wrong you can work it out yourself rather than get some overpaid numpty down who will charge you through the nose for some extortionate colour coded rainbow nonsense.
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Ionics systems are an expensive option for people who dont know or cant be bothered to find out about how to purify water to cean windows, the colour coded resin cannister is great for those who cant be bothered and are clearly too rich to buy a tds meter. My opinion is that it is all a complete waste of time and money buying Ionics as it is really not that technical to work out that tap water needs to go through a pre filters then a decent membrane via large diameter pipe then through resin if you are keen to get it to zero TDS and thats it.
Save your money , get yourself a tank installed by a local mechanic/welder/bodyworker , get a pump and a controller from cleaning spot and call June at Gapswater and she wil tell you how to get pure water and supply you with the bits you need. This will save you a fortune and benefit you by understanding how it all works so when something goes wrong you can work it out yourself rather than get some overpaid numpty down who will charge you through the nose for some extortionate colour coded rainbow nonsense.
Some of your remarks a right. I have always has issues with the resin that's why I fitted a DI.
For me it was all about the fitting and a plug and play system, its now for the last two years a very cheap system to run as the fillters last for a very long time. My waste water is very low less than 20%. its all about what you want my system cost just under 3k Im happy.
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I travelled from southampton to swindon , I have a membership for village hotels gyms so had a workout then relaxed in the pool , sauna etc and its within walking distance .
Service was really good as well .
To get that price I had quotes from grippa and brodex by email .
I negotiated all the quotes down but grippa wouldnt come down enough to get near pure2o .
The poles I got from ionics were not brilliant though , a grafter 32 was included in that 2250 .
This is a great story... always pays to barter :)
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Hi Lee
Change the Resin about every 8 weeks and the filters when due, had the system just over a year and changed them once, I think we have put about 230.000 lt of water through them
Martin
Martin your changing the resin after every 8 weeks? On your Ionic system, right? So costing you about £500pa in resin?
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Ionics systems are an expensive option for people who dont know or cant be bothered to find out about how to purify water to cean windows, the colour coded resin cannister is great for those who cant be bothered and are clearly too rich to buy a tds meter. My opinion is that it is all a complete waste of time and money buying Ionics as it is really not that technical to work out that tap water needs to go through a pre filters then a decent membrane via large diameter pipe then through resin if you are keen to get it to zero TDS and thats it.
Save your money , get yourself a tank installed by a local mechanic/welder/bodyworker , get a pump and a controller from cleaning spot and call June at Gapswater and she wil tell you how to get pure water and supply you with the bits you need. This will save you a fortune and benefit you by understanding how it all works so when something goes wrong you can work it out yourself rather than get some overpaid numpty down who will charge you through the nose for some extortionate colour coded rainbow nonsense.
Some of your remarks a right. I have always has issues with the resin that's why I fitted a DI.
For me it was all about the fitting and a plug and play system, its now for the last two years a very cheap system to run as the fillters last for a very long time. My waste water is very low less than 20%. its all about what you want my system cost just under 3k Im happy.
Hi so you fitted a DI vessel to by pass Ionics colour change resin? Did I understand that correctly?
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Thanks Lee , its always worth bartering and they encourage you to do so with there price match offer .
I know ionics get slated a lot but the customer service was second to none .
Im already finding my 400 litre system a bit limiting so will prob go back for a trade in deal in about a year .