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Title: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 24, 2013, 08:09:08 pm
Just in the process of producing a wireless analogue controller the results are good so far, managed to get upto a distance of 122m From the van, line of site.
Plus works from inside the house to the van from about 50m

See image below, it shows on the map where I was standing when testing the controller.

Looking at a selling price £54.99 + p&p

What are people's thoughts about this?

Cheers

(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1364155164_post-5113-0-44937800-1361967962_thumb.png)
Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 24, 2013, 08:14:07 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 24, 2013, 08:19:29 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Cheers working on that bolt on one to
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: richard jagger on March 24, 2013, 09:05:56 pm
Had one form a year and a half years you get unit of e bay. Have a roof mount bee sting antenna. which helps with reception. I used to use my one on my backpack.I have a 3 channel one works at reduced speed and two at full speed on the pump.and on and off.
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 24, 2013, 09:13:46 pm
What did it cost you if you don't mind me asking?

The ones I have at the minute have the antenna on the box, but looking at supplying an external antenna to use with system.
 
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: mark m on March 24, 2013, 10:07:08 pm
I was chatting to Rc a little while back regarding buying more wfp equipment for a second van which I am going to set up shortly and he mentioned the wireless controller he was making . I received this yesterday and wired it up today sorry for the poor video as you know not the best weather today, i really don't know if it is any good but he seems more than confident  so I am going to give it a good test for the next week or so .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CpeSJG0PE0
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 24, 2013, 10:18:03 pm
Hi mark, how are you? nice video,keep us posted  ;)
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 24, 2013, 10:23:40 pm
I was chatting to Rc a little while back regarding buying more wfp equipment for a second van which I am going to set up shortly and he mentioned the wireless controller he was making . I received this yesterday and wired it up today sorry for the poor video as you know not the best weather today, i really don't know if it is any good but he seems more than confident  so I am going to give it a good test for the next week or so .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CpeSJG0PE0

Glad it turned up ok. Look forward to see how you get on with it. Nice video so far on the set up. Taken note on the length of wire cheers
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: richard jagger on March 25, 2013, 03:31:47 pm
Add a digital volt metre to that as it makes sense to check the battery. E bay. A far a s cost goes its some time ago and cost ne 23 quit.
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 25, 2013, 03:35:33 pm
adding a volt metre will only put costs up on this really, its not worth the hassle of it,

£23 for a wireless controller? if only!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: a900 on March 25, 2013, 04:02:15 pm
I have been reading this thread and wondering how this is better than a normal pump controller that controls the flow and presure shut off?
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 25, 2013, 04:15:15 pm
i wouldnt say it was better than any other on the market,

it dose the same job as the others but at a fraction of the cost, loads of people have problems with the digital ones, you get an airlock and they shut the system down, this carrys on and can pump  it out,
my controllers are rated at 15amps and fused down to 10amps, the digital ones are mainly 7.5amps. so theres extra protection there is anything should happen,
plus this has a wireless switch that can turn it on and off,
the cost of this is still less than the the just buying a digital one!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: richard jagger on March 25, 2013, 05:00:29 pm
Thats what it cost me to make.
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: PoleKing on March 25, 2013, 07:20:42 pm
Please excuse my ignorance but I don't get why you would use these?
I use a waterstop on the end of my hose-plug the pole hose in-water comes out.
Disconnect it and the water stops.
Genuine question...
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 25, 2013, 08:16:08 pm
Please excuse my ignorance but I don't get why you would use these?
I use a waterstop on the end of my hose-plug the pole hose in-water comes out.
Disconnect it and the water stops.
Genuine question...


Hey Darren,

its not everyones cup of tea, its just another way to stop the water really, like a tap, aqua-daptor, rectus fittings, kinking the pipe etc.

things that it could do is save bending down  to disconnect the pipes from front to back of house, in between windows that are a little distance apart etc.

another ideal thing that it can be used for is to reseting a hot water system instantly without waiting for the pressure to build up in the pipe!

Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: PoleKing on March 25, 2013, 08:22:55 pm
Fair enough.
Cheers
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 25, 2013, 08:29:20 pm
Fair enough.
Cheers

no problem,
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: a900 on March 25, 2013, 08:36:00 pm
would the remote me waterproof?
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 25, 2013, 08:40:43 pm
would the remote me waterproof?

could put it in a plastic bag for you lol  ;D

its fine with the odd little splash of water.
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 25, 2013, 08:41:45 pm
can't wait the review from Mark, i have no doubt that is good anyway.
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 25, 2013, 08:44:58 pm
can't wait the review from Mark, i have no doubt that is good anyway.


yer thats what im looking forward to, lets hope the outcome is good for him!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 28, 2013, 07:20:35 pm
Come on Mark,don't be shy... :)
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: mark m on March 28, 2013, 07:23:58 pm
not the easiest item to make a video on bit I tried my best  ;D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjkbHnOEIMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paneEQwMWbY
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 28, 2013, 08:26:26 pm
Great,thank you Mark  :)
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: richard jagger on March 28, 2013, 09:05:32 pm
What a lovely orchestrated plug for you Richard. I am sure you will get some one wanting one. Putting them on e bay soon? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 28, 2013, 09:11:04 pm
Lol yer well sent one out free for someone else to test and review it. 2 more will be going out free for others to test too. Plus sold one on ebay, went for more than the buy now price I have been thinking about! There's another one been put on ebay today!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: G & M on March 28, 2013, 11:55:08 pm
Richard how much are the controllers. Do they work without the r/c as in will the pump switch off when you turn off the water at the brush. Also is it compatible with bigger pumps. I have a 12ltr pump from vyair. I burned out one controller with a similar pump a year ago.
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 29, 2013, 05:18:02 am
Richard how much are the controllers. Do they work without the r/c as in will the pump switch off when you turn off the water at the brush. Also is it compatible with bigger pumps. I have a 12ltr pump from vyair. I burned out one controller with a similar pump a year ago.

The price hasn't been 100% agreed yet but looking around £55-£60. The last one on ebay went for £66.

Yes the controller still works with out the remote as long as the pump has pressure switch fitted.
It should cope with that pump, these are made to take higher amps, most digital controllers are only rated at 7.5amps where this is rated at 10amps. Plus it comes with. 1 years guarantee
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: landy2 on March 29, 2013, 11:23:04 am
I just don't see the point of one , I just turn tap at the end of pipe then pump controller turns pump of , why complicate things  ???
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 29, 2013, 11:43:21 am
I just don't see the point of one , I just turn tap at the end of pipe then pump controller turns pump of , why complicate things  ???

Like I say it's not for everyone, the main reason I made this was time bring costs down for the people that want something like this, some places sell this type of product for £200, i just brought it down to a more affordable price.

If fixed to pole the pole can still be held with both hands, saves looking around for a tap,

things that it could do is save bending down  to disconnect the pipes from front to back of house, in between windows that are a little distance apart etc.

another ideal thing that it can be used for is to reseting a hot water system instantly without waiting for the pressure to build up in the pipe!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: G & M on March 29, 2013, 09:08:14 pm
Mark I have one of these pumps for a different job. Is it possible to get a controller that will handle the amount of amps it uses

Flojet Pentaflex Series
DIAPRAGM PUMP
80 PSI (5.5 BAR) / 7.0 GPM (26.5 LPM)
SPECIFICATIONS
Pump Design:   5 chamber diaphragm
Motor Design:   Permanent magnet DC Voltages:   12, 24 VDC
Motor rating:   IP 54 (splash proof)
Amp Draw:   13.5 amps @ 10 psi for 12 VDC
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 29, 2013, 09:17:25 pm
Mark I have one of these pumps for a different job. Is it possible to get a controller that will handle the amount of amps it uses

Flojet Pentaflex Series
DIAPRAGM PUMP
80 PSI (5.5 BAR) / 7.0 GPM (26.5 LPM)
SPECIFICATIONS
Pump Design:   5 chamber diaphragm
Motor Design:   Permanent magnet DC Voltages:   12, 24 VDC
Motor rating:   IP 54 (splash proof)
Amp Draw:   13.5 amps @ 10 psi for 12 VDC

I can make one that's rated at 15amps or even 30amp one!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: G & M on March 29, 2013, 09:43:47 pm
Richard that is great, will you give me a price on one, I have two vyair 12ltr pumps with the pressure switch knackered, will your controller work the pump without the pressure switch. (my own fault the pressure switches blew)
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 29, 2013, 09:46:45 pm
Richard that is great, will you give me a price on one, I have two vyair 12ltr pumps with the pressure switch knackered, will your controller work the pump without the pressure switch. (my own fault the pressure switches blew)

I'll sort one out for you and let you know, but they would need a pressure switch on the pumps,
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: G & M on March 29, 2013, 09:58:17 pm
Thanks Richard
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: Dani J on March 29, 2013, 10:00:13 pm
not the easiest item to make a video on bit I tried my best  ;D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjkbHnOEIMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paneEQwMWbY

well done mark, great video mate  :)
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 29, 2013, 10:02:14 pm
Thanks Richard
No problem, let you know tomorrow
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: C-Thru. on March 29, 2013, 10:13:04 pm
I have had my system remote controlled for the last five years, only for On/Off but couldnt work without it!
got system from Fleabay bout £20.
easy to fit and wire in...

Simples....

here's a similar one...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-REMOTE-CONTROL-ON-OFF-SWITCH-2-REMOTES-10A-COMPLETE-KIT-FULL-INSTRUCTIONS-/190765295341?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item2c6a7f66ed (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-REMOTE-CONTROL-ON-OFF-SWITCH-2-REMOTES-10A-COMPLETE-KIT-FULL-INSTRUCTIONS-/190765295341?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item2c6a7f66ed)

Goochie
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 29, 2013, 10:20:07 pm
I have had my system remote controlled for the last five years, only for On/Off but couldnt work without it!
got system from Fleabay bout £20.
easy to fit and wire in...

Simples....

here's a similar one...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-REMOTE-CONTROL-ON-OFF-SWITCH-2-REMOTES-10A-COMPLETE-KIT-FULL-INSTRUCTIONS-/190765295341?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item2c6a7f66ed (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-REMOTE-CONTROL-ON-OFF-SWITCH-2-REMOTES-10A-COMPLETE-KIT-FULL-INSTRUCTIONS-/190765295341?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item2c6a7f66ed)

Goochie

Very poor range on that, only a maximum of 50m in the right conditions! The ones I do have done a maximum of 122m so far!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: C-Thru. on March 29, 2013, 10:27:13 pm
maybe on that particular one, which is the first one I found on Fleabay tonight,
I get upto 100m from mine, depending on sightline,
For £20 never let me down, not even had to change a battery in remote yet!
Great value for money, highly recommend!
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 29, 2013, 10:33:24 pm
maybe on that particular one, which is the first one I found on Fleabay tonight,
I get upto 100m from mine, depending on sightline,
For £20 never let me down, not even had to change a battery in remote yet!
Great value for money, highly recommend!


Do you have flow controller with it or just that without any flow controller?
Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: C-Thru. on March 30, 2013, 02:24:48 pm
Yes it is with a flow controller, the switch is inline before the controller, so set flow rate at start of day and thats it!
Then switch on/off as needed. saves a lot of water, been great system so far...
I did try and post some photo's but the upload thing on this site is sh*t.
will try again...

Aha, worked this time... so remote is little black box top right corner, I extended the antenna (brown cable, under white tape surrounding whole thing) so receives from further distance. Ignore Amp meter that is defunct, idea that didn't work, but voltage meter works great, lovely way of keeping and eye on battery, Only £4 again fleabay from china.
Whole pump assembly mounted on board attached to tank box, so that it can be removed on cold nights, simple.
So everything is always on, then Remote switch controls the lot!
£20 well spent...

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Title: Re: 100m+ wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 30, 2013, 02:45:45 pm
not to bad, at least with ours there are high grade components than those ones, most controllers on the market today only can take 7.5amp, some are 10amps. the switch that you put up is upto 10amps. plus you cant use them on any digital contollers either.

the controllers we do everything is in one unit that is water proof and has its own waterproof external fuse. the components we use start at 15amps and can go upto 30amps depending on what the pumps draw. so ours offer a high rating and more protection, less likely to burn out and fail.

we are looking into a retail cost of £54.99 for the whole unit with 1year warrenty on it.
if just the switches for the analogue controllers then it would be less.

 

Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 30, 2013, 03:24:28 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Cheers working on that bolt on one to
i am looking forward to it  ;)
Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 30, 2013, 03:25:22 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Cheers working on that bolt on one to
i am looking forward to it  ;)

its sitting on my desk now, just need to get it tested!
Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 30, 2013, 03:26:35 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Cheers working on that bolt on one to
i am looking forward to it  ;)

its sitting on my desk now, just need to get it tested!
great! :)
Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 30, 2013, 03:27:34 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Cheers working on that bolt on one to
i am looking forward to it  ;)

its sitting on my desk now, just need to get it tested!
great! :)

should be sorted next week!
Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: ben M on March 30, 2013, 03:30:03 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Cheers working on that bolt on one to
i am looking forward to it  ;)

its sitting on my desk now, just need to get it tested!
great! :)

should be sorted next week!
thanks Richard, please send me an e-mail when it is done
Title: Re: 100m wireless analogue controllers
Post by: R.C Property on March 30, 2013, 03:30:34 pm
Look great Richard,well done mate.. ;)
Cheers working on that bolt on one to
i am looking forward to it  ;)

its sitting on my desk now, just need to get it tested!
great! :)

should be sorted next week!
thanks Richard, please send me an e-mail when it is done

yer will do.