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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: davids3511 on March 23, 2013, 06:33:19 pm

Title: Someones going to be busy
Post by: davids3511 on March 23, 2013, 06:33:19 pm
http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/chester/window-clean-direct/19210628
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: Frankybadboy on March 23, 2013, 06:47:03 pm
thats richy wilts i think
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on March 23, 2013, 06:48:16 pm
Yup
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Post by: davids3511 on March 23, 2013, 06:48:21 pm
thats richy wilts i think
It is. He popped up on my Facebook page so I went and had a nosey.
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Post by: colin purewater on March 23, 2013, 06:49:07 pm
Indeed that is me wilts how did I miss a post about that  ???
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Post by: Jimmy Jon on March 23, 2013, 06:55:34 pm
Gutter clearance for £26.00! :o If he gets regular window cleaning customers from it then it could pay off in the long run! I hope it works out Richy, you've got at least 39 to do!  ;D
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Post by: Goldoak cleaning specialists on March 23, 2013, 07:00:12 pm
13 quid profit if that from each one. Ads take half of price shown.
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Post by: deeege on March 23, 2013, 07:08:54 pm
13 quid profit if that from each one. Ads take half of price shown.

£13 turnover not profit. Out of that £13 he will have staff wages, fuel, insurance, water costs and all associated expenses that we all incur. I'm genuinely looking forward to hearing how Richy plans to make this pay.

Over to you Richy........

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Post by: Goldoak cleaning specialists on March 23, 2013, 07:16:51 pm
They also take vat from the sale price..
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Post by: davids3511 on March 23, 2013, 07:19:25 pm
7 days a week too. Clearing a gutter on a Sunday for £13!
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Post by: C o z y on March 23, 2013, 07:21:14 pm
Ah, the Groupon trap. I love these. Saw a couple of big time winners on the carpet section get burned on this.

They were going to make millions, and pick up new custies at the same time etc etc. Fastest way to lose money.

In a couple of days, it will go really quiet, then in about a month, someone will ask how it went, a very long silence.


Great idea.  ;D
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Post by: Goldoak cleaning specialists on March 23, 2013, 07:23:13 pm
I know someone who done 350 deals on window cleaning.  Epic fail. Took him months to complete.  They send money through when clean has been done. Its a real  shame people cnt see this is a con
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: deeege on March 23, 2013, 07:25:52 pm
The problem with using Groupon as a sales tool is that the typical Groupon customer  tends to be a complete tight ar*e that wants and expects something for nothing. Not really the type of customer you would like to retain.

I hope you can make it pay though Richy and am looking forward to hearing your thought process.
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Post by: C o z y on March 23, 2013, 07:29:03 pm
Too late now anyway, a day to go and already sold 39. Ouch  ;D tick tick tick tick ............
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Post by: Goldoak cleaning specialists on March 23, 2013, 07:37:53 pm
Correct.  Im waiting for a offer on carpet cleaning in my area.  Il take it. Average price 12 a carpet.  Sold to me the tight ass..haha. 30x 13= £390. Thats 2/3 gutters in my work...god help u
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Post by: Ste M on March 23, 2013, 07:48:31 pm
I've bought loads of this off richy. I've got family who all live in the postcode catchment. All live in 4 bed detached houses with big connives. Going to make sure the dogs have big dumps all round the place before he comes. I'm also going over to make sure I get my monies worth and I'm filling the gutters up with a clay substance that will be slightly damp so a nightmare to remove  ;D
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: deeege on March 23, 2013, 07:51:46 pm
I've bought loads of this off richy. I've got family who all live in the postcode catchment. All live in 4 bed detached houses with big connives. Going to make sure the dogs have big dumps all round the place before he comes. I'm also going over to make sure I get my monies worth and I'm filling the gutters up with a clay substance that will be slightly damp so a nightmare to remove  ;D

I'm off out canvassing gutter cleans in Chester and Ellesmere Port tomorrow. 4 bed houses for £50 a go. Get Richy to do them all for £13.00 and i'll still make £37.00 per clean without lifting a finger. Everyone's a winner.  :)
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Post by: Goldoak cleaning specialists on March 23, 2013, 07:56:46 pm
Big dumps. Hahaaaaaaaaaaa. Class

Hes lucky i dnt live there he be cleaning with a tooth brush. .I like my gutters sparkling plus the claps are the deep ridged ones. And I got a conni.
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Post by: richywilts on March 23, 2013, 11:25:10 pm
i thought id give it a go get the name out there to new areas its spring time hoepfully once this snow goes and i expect to pick up new work as were carrying them out il prob carry them out myself to be honest do 2-3 a day and then leaflet around them, its only a gutter clear not a gutter clean and the way i bring first cleans up i reckon we may be able to convert 50% over to regular customers

the amount of traffic it has generated to my website been really good so more emails to bank in the database for future advertising campaigns etc

Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: deeege on March 24, 2013, 01:25:53 am
Good luck with it Richy, keep good records and let us know how it goes. I would be having sleepless nights knowing I have 40+ gutter clearances to do, alone!
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 24, 2013, 06:55:35 am
i thought id give it a go get the name out there to new areas its spring time hoepfully once this snow goes and i expect to pick up new work as were carrying them out il prob carry them out myself to be honest do 2-3 a day and then leaflet around them, its only a gutter clear not a gutter clean and the way i bring first cleans up i reckon we may be able to convert 50% over to regular customers

the amount of traffic it has generated to my website been really good so more emails to bank in the database for future advertising campaigns etc


I doubt you will pick up 50% of them as regular custys  :-\
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Post by: robertphil on March 24, 2013, 08:27:21 am
would think most will be done in 20 minutes so not bad money
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Post by: Ste M on March 24, 2013, 08:30:54 am
Richy aint got a vac so he'll be doing them off ladders I'd imagine. If you can do a 4 bed house in 20 minutes then that is some feat. Hour minimum for each house and that's not taking into account the majority may be full to the brim
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Post by: PAUL ERITH on March 24, 2013, 08:43:54 am
i thought id give it a go get the name out there to new areas its spring time hoepfully once this snow goes and i expect to pick up new work as were carrying them out il prob carry them out myself to be honest do 2-3 a day and then leaflet around them, its only a gutter clear not a gutter clean and the way i bring first cleans up i reckon we may be able to convert 50% over to regular customers

the amount of traffic it has generated to my website been really good so more emails to bank in the database for future advertising campaigns etc



If you are storing people's email address don't you need to state this on you site  ??? ???
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: C o z y on March 24, 2013, 10:26:44 am
People who use Groupon are not the customers we're looking for. They want/expect to pay pennies for a job. Next gutter clean or window clean, they'll go back to Groupon for the next sucker who does an offer.
Groupon is designed for restaurants etc for special offers to get new custies. The carpet section of CIU has hundreds of stories about Groupon. Every poor sucker who tried it was saying"it will get us new customers on our data base" etc etc. To be honest, I thought everyone knew about Groupon by now, obviously there're still guys out there who haven't.

Enjoy the ride. 13 quid an hour. Nobody's perfect, we all make mistakes. ;)
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Post by: 8weekly on March 24, 2013, 10:40:39 am
i thought id give it a go get the name out there to new areas its spring time hoepfully once this snow goes and i expect to pick up new work as were carrying them out il prob carry them out myself to be honest do 2-3 a day and then leaflet around them, its only a gutter clear not a gutter clean and the way i bring first cleans up i reckon we may be able to convert 50% over to regular customers

the amount of traffic it has generated to my website been really good so more emails to bank in the database for future advertising campaigns etc



If you are storing people's email address don't you need to state this on you site  ??? ???
He would only gain email addresses if they signed up for a newsletter.
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: ben M on March 24, 2013, 10:43:17 am
People who use Groupon are not the customers we're looking for. They want/expect to pay pennies for a job. Next gutter clean or window clean, they'll go back to Groupon for the next sucker who does an offer.
Groupon is designed for restaurants etc for special offers to get new custies. The carpet section of CIU has hundreds of stories about Groupon. Every poor sucker who tried it was saying"it will get us new customers on our data base" etc etc. To be honest, I thought everyone knew about Groupon by now, obviously there're still guys out there who haven't.

Enjoy the ride. 13 quid an hour. Nobody's perfect, we all make mistakes. ;)
+1
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Post by: Goldoak cleaning specialists on March 24, 2013, 10:52:50 am
Biggest cowbin the west. I reckon ul get 3/4 that stay with u for the 40 you sell..and then ud never be able to do their gutters again unless the following year ud be happy with 13 pound and under after vat. .let me stress they take the vat from the price shown which is then halved. .so 26 for offer 13 to them minus 20%= you take the difference. .around a tenner per gutter..I wouldn't even start the van for that. .

If utwant customer base surely all them people who had thos deals on ur f book account helped. Y not just keep going?

Personally if someone sed I can empty ur guttering for a tenner id say na ur ok id rather pay more for a professional service.

4 bed house guttering easy min £80 all day every day

Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: deeege on March 24, 2013, 10:54:37 am
People who use Groupon are not the customers we're looking for. They want/expect to pay pennies for a job. Next gutter clean or window clean, they'll go back to Groupon for the next sucker who does an offer.
Groupon is designed for restaurants etc for special offers to get new custies. The carpet section of CIU has hundreds of stories about Groupon. Every poor sucker who tried it was saying"it will get us new customers on our data base" etc etc. To be honest, I thought everyone knew about Groupon by now, obviously there're still guys out there who haven't.

Enjoy the ride. 13 quid an hour less Vat so £11.40 Nobody's perfect, we all make mistakes. ;)

+1 (made a small correction for you)
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Post by: windiewasher on March 24, 2013, 10:58:18 am
 ;D
You get 50%
Then they take vat off
He will 13 before vat.
I did groupon but told all customers to get there money back.luckily most of them bought them out my area too so i got away lightly.
Biggest mistake i ever made in business,i hope its not a mistake for you richy but i have a feeling it will be.
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Post by: windiewasher on March 24, 2013, 11:06:10 am
I found the people who use groupon for these deals are quite wealthy but work and generally dont care about the houses but when they want something done they dont want to pay.
 i had one who asked me for a driveway quote after so i said 300 quid.he says i will give you 100 as i have had qualified plasterers working for 50 a day.
 his house approx value of 400k.
 I said do you work for £50 or £100 a day and walked off before he could answer.
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Post by: Stephen.C on March 24, 2013, 06:38:42 pm
I found the people who use groupon for these deals are quite wealthy but work and generally dont care about the houses but when they want something done they dont want to pay.
 Bang on mate.
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: Ian Rochester on March 24, 2013, 07:12:15 pm
£26 for a 4 bed, which probably has low and high level gutters, Groupon take 50% plus vat, so you're doing it for around £11....... mad!!!  We charge £120 for 4 bed minimum
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Post by: Moderator David@stives on March 24, 2013, 07:43:03 pm
I just unfriended richy for posting disgusting links on Facebook , my kids look on Facebook and don't want to be associated with such a prat
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Post by: stuart mc on March 24, 2013, 07:49:02 pm
I just unfriended richy for posting disgusting links on Facebook , my kids look on Facebook and don't want to be associated with such a prat

surely your kids only see the stuff on their friends newfeeds, or do they use yours, don't blame you either way
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Post by: keyser soze on March 24, 2013, 08:13:43 pm
you can do it richy .. nothing ventured nothing gained... all the best on it
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Post by: Moderator David@stives on March 24, 2013, 10:13:24 pm
Stuart

i dont hide my facebook, I leave it on when i go out of the room

Richy had a video showing Male anal sex in a video, I reported him to facebook, dirty disgusting prat
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Post by: stuart mc on March 24, 2013, 10:16:57 pm
Stuart

i dont hide my facebook, I leave it on when i go out of the room

Richy had a video showing Male anal sex in a video, I reported him to facebook, dirty disgusting prat

fair one I would have done the same, and I will not add him either
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Post by: stuart mc on March 24, 2013, 10:37:48 pm
just a thought though dave, he may be a victim of spam, it has happened to more than one of my friends, clicking on links and getting affected
Title: Re: Someones going to be busy
Post by: richywilts on March 24, 2013, 10:49:02 pm
Stuart

i dont hide my facebook, I leave it on when i go out of the room

Richy had a video showing Male anal sex in a video, I reported him to facebook, dirty disgusting prat

dave get a life it was put up as a joke it was not two men humping each other or nothing for every it was a joke of someone riding a bike with a dildo as a seat my friend put it on my facebook i shared it and said maybe some fat women should invest in these as it would solve two problems they would get laid and lose weight at same time

sorry if you found it vulgar it wasnt intended for your childrens eyes, i seen the humour in the clip you obviously never

know need to come on here calling me a prat over it you could have privately messaged me on facebook and asked me to remove it which i have actually done but not because u reported me
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Post by: Moderator David@stives on March 24, 2013, 10:55:03 pm
Richy

There are porn sites for things like that,

I fully stand by what I said, facebook is not for that crap
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Post by: richywilts on March 24, 2013, 11:07:05 pm
yeah and i stand by what i said there no need to come on a forum and try and ridicule me personal and business are two seperate things you should have dealt with it privately on facebook
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Post by: Moderator David@stives on March 24, 2013, 11:11:06 pm
Richy

I only know you from here ?

What you posted was against facebook policy, it is a family site, I am just trying to protect others from here who might have been unfortunate enough to have accepted your friend requests.