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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: best on March 21, 2013, 09:46:47 am
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went to the cleaning show at the NEC and spoke to IONICS, they said when you rinse you do not need to take the Brush off the glass, just zig zag down the glass with the brush still touching. :-\
This does not seem right to me.
How do you rinse? ??? ???
does any one do it like IONICS? ;)If so what brush do you use?
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At 60 ft rinse on glass on housed I've always took brush off glass.
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do you need to rinse?
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You can do either. Many believe with flocked brushes that dirt can be trapped in the fibres of brush hence the lifting of the brush. I would think with a low flow it would advised to lift the brush.e.g. backpacks. But if you have a flow of +- 4/5 Litres over the glass you could just zig zag over the glass without lifting the brush.Each developes there own technic over time.
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As high flow rate as the pump will push out. We use 100psi with no controller. I have a flocked, Darren's isn't, we both rinse on.
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You can compromise:
As you draw the brush across the glass, twist the pole so you raise the trailing end of the brush. When you reach the edge, twist the pole the other way to raise the opposite end of the brush - you then rinsed the bit where the end of the brush was touching and continue across to the opposite edge. Repeat in zigzag motion down the glass.
Not so critical in these days of super light poles and brushes, but back in the days of my first pole (Omnipole) it saved an awful lot of straining to hold the brush and pole off the glass ;D
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I do it the way IONICS explain it. But only at the top of the window, not zig - zagging all the way down.
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This is just one technique that suits the brush they offer on their kit, a different brush may rinse better by pulling it off the glass.
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Plenty of people rinsing brush on:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=150310.0
Vin
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Rinse on the glass mate.
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Yes zig zag down the window
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Top windows I rinse on, but rinse off with bottom windows
Less strain
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it took me a while to trust rinsing on the glass, and i still only do it on higher than ground floor, but by the end of the day it saves you a hell of a lot of muscle strain.
it is the rinsing off the glass stance where your back and shoulders are at their greatest strain. rinse on the glass with a van set up and you shouldnt be putting your back/shoulders under much strain at all! (unfortunately i currently have a trolley set up so 25ltr barrels are my enemy
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Would rinseing on the glass be a risk with 1.5 lt a minute coming out of the brush head would save me some effort when over some connys.
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always done it the ionic way , with a backpack at low speed, never had a problem
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Best,
I do as Ionics have told you, never lost any work over the years, infact I pick work up.
Listen to Ionics, its the way I learned.
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When it sheets I rinse on.
When it beads I rinse off.
Could probably rinse on when it beads but always think it won't work.
I'm probably in the wrong here can anyone please advise?
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When it sheets I rinse on.
When it beads I rinse off.
Could probably rinse on when it beads but always think it won't work.
I'm probably in the wrong here can anyone please advise?
Interesting that, I prefer to rinse on if the water is beading or the glass is badly hydrophobic.
I feel that this is actually sweeping the glass and therefore brushing away any dirt that may still be in the beading water.
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tried rinsing on different glass different flow and i have never been able to guarentee to the standard to be has high has when rinsing off.
now im meticulous so i know many will be happy with leaving what i wouldnt maybe thats why
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now im meticulous so i know many will be happy with leaving what i wouldnt maybe thats why
nope, rinsing on leaves nowt if you do it properly
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now im meticulous so i know many will be happy with leaving what i wouldnt maybe thats why
nope, rinsing on leaves nowt if you do it properly
so how do you do it properly?
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Yes so how many times do you pass the glass with on and at what flow has like iv said I have tested on different variables without success
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across the top head left right ,left right
up & down from left frame to right & back
then zig zag down top to bottom
i use a john hewitt 505 backpack on the slowest flow, i dunno what it is in ltr/min but its faster than a sureflow bp middle setting
when i first started i was rinsing a lot & i couldn't see why i needed to lift the brush off so i never did, no idea if the brushes i was using were flocked or not ( a vikan then a brodex)
using gardiners sill dual trim for last 2 yrs gradually i started rinsing less & less. obviousely sometimes i get bits on the glass but another zig zag down always gets them & if i'm going round a corner & i cant see the glass properly i sometimes give it a spray or for juliet balconies & i've never had a complaint about bits left on the glass.
yesterday i tried a gardiners dual trim superlite for the first time & that seems even faster to zigzag well happy with it
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Pencil or fan jets?
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pensil jets, heard fans splash a bit & i have some with bad frames that i dont wash so never tried them
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wash'n go for me.