Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: PurefectWindowCleaning on March 20, 2013, 06:05:07 pm
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Well, after a month, endless phone calls, door banging etc... they answered the phone this morning.
A simple 'I suggest you pay me this money else ill knock your door through myself and get it' they told me to come round and collect as I sounded angry ;D
Tip of £2 aswell :D
Was not giving in, on this one ;D
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;D excellent result
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£8
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£8
Did I stutter? Yes £8.00
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Well, after a month, endless phone calls, door banging etc... they answered the phone this morning.
A simple 'I suggest you pay me this money else ill knock your door through myself and get it' they told me to come round and collect as I sounded angry ;D
Tip of £2 aswell :D
Was not giving in, on this one ;D
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I'm sure that will help with your 'reputation'.
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This one pr*ck cant knock my reputation my friend.
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£8? That is serious upset and celebrating over such a small sum. Is there another thread I missed where you take us through the whole saga of how he kidnapped your kids and set fire to your house?
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This was a particular 1 off that I was refusing to give in to.
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You never heard of 'principles' you let one off they'll all expect it. Good on you for getting it. Some people just blatantly take the p1ss
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You never heard of 'principles' you let one off they'll all expect it. Good on you for getting it. Some people just blatantly take the p1ss
Exactly.
I wasnt having some chap walking round my town, seeing me or my van, and thinking 'ha, I had him right over'
No chance. Its happened before with one or two and im not having it again
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Fair play to ya .
I had the same with a new customer owed me a tenner for 3 months in the end he got fed up of me knocking his door so then he came out of work and paid me lol .
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You never heard of 'principles' you let one off they'll all expect it. Good on you for getting it. Some people just blatantly take the p1ss
It would annoy me, but £8 isn't worth the aggro. What was it you cleaned as a one off for £8? A wing mirror?
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Had a customer turn me over over £900 a couple of years ago. What would you have done if that was the case?
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You never heard of 'principles' you let one off they'll all expect it. Good on you for getting it. Some people just blatantly take the p1ss
It would annoy me, but £8 isn't worth the aggro. What was it you cleaned as a one off for £8? A wing mirror?
Agh your one of these new cleaner s who have a ionics system and only clean mansions. You do ten a day and earn £200 a house. You don't do semis or even know what a council house looks like
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It was 4 windows next door to a regular.
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You never heard of 'principles' you let one off they'll all expect it. Good on you for getting it. Some people just blatantly take the p1ss
It would annoy me, but £8 isn't worth the aggro. What was it you cleaned as a one off for £8? A wing mirror?
Agh your one of these new cleaner s who have a ionics system and only clean mansions. You do ten a day and earn £200 a house. You don't do semis or even know what a council house looks like
Actually I went to quote on some council house semis today. My leafleter must have got lost. ;D
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You never heard of 'principles' you let one off they'll all expect it. Good on you for getting it. Some people just blatantly take the p1ss
It would annoy me, but £8 isn't worth the aggro. What was it you cleaned as a one off for £8? A wing mirror?
Agh your one of these new cleaner s who have a ionics system and only clean mansions. You do ten a day and earn £200 a house. You don't do semis or even know what a council house looks like
Are you worried he's stealing your work Ste ;D
Fair play to ye James fight the power ;)
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WELL DONE JAMES
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Well done mate. It doesn't matter the amount it's the principle. We would never trick someone into working for us without ever intending to pay them so why should we let it be done to us.
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Well done James for sticking to your guns. I would not worry about your reputation for expecting payment.Some just take who ever they can. I will not let people get away with not paying me.I nag until they pay me.
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Well, after a month, endless phone calls, door banging etc... they answered the phone this morning.
A simple 'I suggest you pay me this money else ill knock your door through myself and get it' they told me to come round and collect as I sounded angry ;D
Tip of £2 aswell :D
Was not giving in, on this one ;D
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I can see thats a fake one mate ;D ;D hence the £2 tips ;D
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Yeah im sure they haven't answered the phone and door all month just to avoid the window cleaner for £8 ::)roll
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My services are available for small fee. If they refuse to pay tell them you'll get Gerald to sit on them. I've never lost yet with that threat. >:(
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My services are available for small fee. If they refuse to pay tell them you'll get Gerald to sit on them. I've never lost yet with that threat. >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'd nearly forgotten about that £8.00.
Well done.
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it dont matter if its8 pound or 100 pound you have done the job and want paying
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Had a customer turn me over over £900 a couple of years ago. What would you have done if that was the case?
what did you do about it?
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Had a customer turn me over over £900 a couple of years ago. What would you have done if that was the case?
what did you do about it?
He probably had to put in a Saturday morning to cover it! ;D
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Had a customer turn me over over £900 a couple of years ago. What would you have done if that was the case?
what did you do about it?
They'd gone bust. Nothing I could do. The receiver is dealing with it. Im thinking £10 would be a result with that.
I was fortunate in that it was a very big builders clean and the company that came in and took over the works offered me the job to complete it. I got a very attractive price for that work, which at the very least covered my losses with the previous contractor and made up for a fair proportion of what I was happy enough with. Just a crying shame I didnt get the on-going works. Would have liked that.
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Yeah im sure they haven't answered the phone and door all month just to avoid the window cleaner for £8 ::)roll
You clearly havent been trading long, or got a lot of customers, if you have never come across someone who will avoid paying a small window cleaning bill... damng idiot
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Yeah im sure they haven't answered the phone and door all month just to avoid the window cleaner for £8 ::)roll
You clearly havent been trading long, or got a lot of customers, if you have never come across someone who will avoid paying a small window cleaning bill... damng idiot
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too true ......... scum will go to all lengths to avoid paying.
used to have a round which was collection only in a cheap part of town ... during winter house lights are on from 4ish so at 6pm was easy to see who was in and who was out ... loads used to pretend to be out but usually slipped up when they thought I had gone and would take a look from behind curtain and I would be waiting patiently on the door step for em .. dropped round ages ago as fed up with people like that.
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you would not last long in london
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you would not last long in london
No?
Thats alright then, as I never plan to clean windows in London.
Cheers for the heads up tho
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I think the guy was right to pursue this but only cos it was next to a regular customer, if he had to drive miles to nag the bloke then I'd say leave it, but I would keep on knocking in his case too.
All those people who knocked the guy for pursuing it, would you mention it if someone in a shop shortchanged you a pound, course you would.
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I think the guy was right to pursue this but only cos it was next to a regular customer, if he had to drive miles to nag the bloke then I'd say leave it, but I would on knocking in his case too.
All those people who knocked the guy for pursuing it, would you mention it if someone in a shop shortchanged you a pound, course you would.
Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
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Good on you James.
I've just received a £40 payment from a customer that has owed it since October last year. Despite numerous texts/calls promising she would pay, she never did.
Anyway, sent her a "Letter Before Action" letter from Thomas Higgins and hey presto, 5 days later, she pays.
It used to bother me that she thought she could get away with it, so I went the Thomas Higgins route ;D
Only ever had it done to me twice before, one of them moved out of the area, so I wrote that off (£15). The other one lost his job and was skint, but I saw him in the pub one night and he paid up (£18) ;D
£8 or £80 it would still wind me up
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I'm not sure why some people are getting their knickers in a twist about this. He did the job he wants his money.
Try walking out of Tesco with something worth £8 without paying, their security will wrestle you to the floor and contact the police.
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I'll tell you why people are getting their knickers in a twist...
BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO SEND OUT A MESSAGE TO EVERYONE ON HERE THAT THEIR ROLLING IN IT, AND £8 TO THEM IS A DROP IN THE OCEAN COMPARED TO THEIR BANK ACCOUNT.
I could draw a hundred quid out the bank now if I wanted to and chuck it down a drain and not be bothered...
I don't go round telling people tho.
£8 is £8. Ive earned that £8 and I want it... end of!
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I'll tell you why people are getting their knickers in a twist...
BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO SEND OUT A MESSAGE TO EVERYONE ON HERE THAT THEIR ROLLING IN IT, AND £8 TO THEM IS A DROP IN THE OCEAN COMPARED TO THEIR BANK ACCOUNT.
I could draw a hundred quid out the bank now if I wanted to and chuck it down a drain and not be bothered...
I don't go round telling people tho.
£8 is £8. Ive earned that £8 and I want it... end of!
I'm glad you got your money but have to disagree with your statement above.
I wouldn't have threatened to kick the door in as it disturbs your own 'inner peace' and rarely promotes good feeling.
Calmness of heart = a long life and happiness.
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I wouldn't have threatened to kick the door in as it disturbs your own 'inner peace' and rarely promotes good feeling.
Having had a re-read of the OP I agree I would not have threatened to kick the door in either. There are better, more equally efficient ways to get your money.
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
Ok, try to see it from another perspective rather than just being aggressive about it.
It's nothing to do with it "only being £8" in the way that £8 is not a lot of money. For me, it's that rather than spending time on "endless phone calls, door banging etc..." and then time going round to collect, perhaps another approach would be to forget the £8 and use the time cleaning someone's windows who might turn out to be a good long-term customer. I wouldn't be "£8 short", I'd be "up one new customer."
My view is that my business is cleaning windows. I chase debts until the time spent collecting looks like becoming more than it's worth. I don't care what a non-customer thinks of me. If it costs more (in time, postage, driving, etc) to collect a debt than the value of that debt, I'd be mad to chase.
And now call me a gay, southern jessie who knows nothing about window cleaning and has only just started and has a smart van if it'll help you to deal with my disagreeing with you...
Vin
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James don't chuck the 100 quid down the drain as I will have it.
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I wouldn't have threatened to kick the door in as it disturbs your own 'inner peace' and rarely promotes good feeling.
Having had a re-read of the OP I agree I would not have threatened to kick the door in either. There are better, more equally efficient ways to get your money.
I tried the 'better, more equally efficent' ways, and they failed. So I up'd it a notch and got my pound notes. If it takes that type of approch to get your money (which rarely) happens, then so be it.
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I could draw a hundred quid out the bank now if I wanted to and chuck it down a drain and not be bothered...
I don't go round telling people tho.
No? ;D
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you would not last long in london
he would be mad to work in London! when you live in the south west, you don't want to live or work in London,believe me!
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its a forgeary
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Yeah im sure they haven't answered the phone and door all month just to avoid the window cleaner for £8 ::)roll
You clearly havent been trading long, or got a lot of customers, if you have never come across someone who will avoid paying a small window cleaning bill... damng idiot
Been trading 20 years and have 300 customers. I'm not the one coming across as an idiot.
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Yeah im sure they haven't answered the phone and door all month just to avoid the window cleaner for £8 ::)roll
You clearly havent been trading long, or got a lot of customers, if you have never come across someone who will avoid paying a small window cleaning bill... damng idiot
Been trading 20 years and have 300 customers. I'm not the one coming across as an idiot.
Debatable.
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I could draw a hundred quid out the bank now if I wanted to and chuck it down a drain and not be bothered...
I don't go round telling people tho.
No? ;D
I only wrote it there to get my point across ;)
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i agree with vin to a point.i wrote a £25 job off the other month after going out of my way about 10 times to collect.in hindsight it was a waste of my time and fuel.
luckily non payers are very rare on my round.
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i agree with vin to a point.i wrote a £25 job off the other month after going out of my way about 10 times to collect.in hindsight it was a waste of my time and fuel.
luckily non payers are very rare on my round.
This wasnt out of my way, it was next door to a regular, and about a minute drive from my house ;)
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
James you come across as very immature. I reckon i'd of got the £8 easy without resorting to coming through someones front door. This i think is the issue a lot of people are having, threatening to come through someones door is not good. And infact if you picked the wrong or right person to say this to you could end up either in custody or casualty, as it is it paid off for you. I still think its a pretty dumb road to go down. You appear to be of a stunted mentality in so much as you're happy to brag about what you did and that it saves a guy walking round town thinking he's got the better of you. I don't see it like that. Others don't too. Just like the customer had no choice but to pay, you should also accept the fact a lot of people think you're dumb for doing what you did. And for the record i also think it was a dumb thing to do. It says a lot about you.
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
James you come across as very immature. I reckon i'd of got the £8 easy without resorting to coming through someones front door. This i think is the issue a lot of people are having, threatening to come through someones door is not good. And infact if you picked the wrong or right person to say this to you could end up either in custody or casualty, as it is it paid off for you. I still think its a pretty dumb road to go down. You appear to be of a stunted mentality in so much as you're happy to brag about what you did and that it saves a guy walking round town thinking he's got the better of you. I don't see it like that. Others don't too. Just like the customer had no choice but to pay, you should also accept the fact a lot of people think you're dumb for doing what you did. And for the record i also think it was a dumb thing to do. It says a lot about you.
That's a bit harsh Cleanclear.
I reckon James is quite young, not too long ago I'd have been just the same.
You view things a bit different as you get older
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
James you come across as very immature. I reckon i'd of got the £8 easy without resorting to coming through someones front door. This i think is the issue a lot of people are having, threatening to come through someones door is not good. And infact if you picked the wrong or right person to say this to you could end up either in custody or casualty, as it is it paid off for you. I still think its a pretty dumb road to go down. You appear to be of a stunted mentality in so much as you're happy to brag about what you did and that it saves a guy walking round town thinking he's got the better of you. I don't see it like that. Others don't too. Just like the customer had no choice but to pay, you should also accept the fact a lot of people think you're dumb for doing what you did. And for the record i also think it was a dumb thing to do. It says a lot about you.
Theres a spiritual fellow if ever I saw one.
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That's a bit harsh Cleanclear.
I reckon James is quite young, not too long ago I'd have been just the same.
You view things a bit different as you get older
I wasn't aware there was a criteria here for age, am i right or wrong?
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Yes of course you're right.
Take it you've not seen much of life?
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
James you come across as very immature. I reckon i'd of got the £8 easy without resorting to coming through someones front door. This i think is the issue a lot of people are having, threatening to come through someones door is not good. And infact if you picked the wrong or right person to say this to you could end up either in custody or casualty, as it is it paid off for you. I still think its a pretty dumb road to go down. You appear to be of a stunted mentality in so much as you're happy to brag about what you did and that it saves a guy walking round town thinking he's got the better of you. I don't see it like that. Others don't too. Just like the customer had no choice but to pay, you should also accept the fact a lot of people think you're dumb for doing what you did. And for the record i also think it was a dumb thing to do. It says a lot about you.
Theres a spiritual fellow if ever I saw one.
agree with Matt - this tells us a lot about you clean clear. How does the passage go 'remove the plank from your own eye before you worry about the speck of wood in another s
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
James you come across as very immature. I reckon i'd of got the £8 easy without resorting to coming through someones front door. This i think is the issue a lot of people are having, threatening to come through someones door is not good. And infact if you picked the wrong or right person to say this to you could end up either in custody or casualty, as it is it paid off for you. I still think its a pretty dumb road to go down. You appear to be of a stunted mentality in so much as you're happy to brag about what you did and that it saves a guy walking round town thinking he's got the better of you. I don't see it like that. Others don't too. Just like the customer had no choice but to pay, you should also accept the fact a lot of people think you're dumb for doing what you did. And for the record i also think it was a dumb thing to do. It says a lot about you.
Cleanclear - Please explain how you would of got the money, what would you have done that I hadnt already tried? (you will have to find my other thread, where ive listed what I done)
You will notice that thread is titled 'THAT £8', as it was aimed at the people who commented on my last thread, advising me to forget about the money, and that I will never get it.
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I never chase money if they want to pay they pay if not they don't
I prefer to make money rather than chase it.
Some who haven't paid me for whatever reason are still good custy's
others I just wont do again.
Do I care what the one's who don't pay say no
Do I care what the one's who pay say yes
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I havent collected for years, just leave a self addressed envelope and any money owed by the time next clean is due (which is very rare) doesnt get cleaned plus i,d never be cleaning windows for £8 anyway i,m running a business not a charity.
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I havent collected for years, just leave a self addressed envelope and any money owed by the time next clean is due (which is very rare) doesnt get cleaned plus i,d never be cleaning windows for £8 anyway i,m running a business not a charity.
stupid comment! how much do you charge then for 4 little windows?
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Some who haven't paid me for whatever reason are still good custy's
??? Sorry, thats a bad customer isn't it?
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I havent collected for years, just leave a self addressed envelope and any money owed by the time next clean is due (which is very rare) doesnt get cleaned plus i,d never be cleaning windows for £8 anyway i,m running a business not a charity.
stupid comment! how much do you charge then for 4 little windows?
Must be £20
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I havent collected for years, just leave a self addressed envelope and any money owed by the time next clean is due (which is very rare) doesnt get cleaned plus i,d never be cleaning windows for £8 anyway i,m running a business not a charity.
stupid comment! how much do you charge then for 4 little windows?
£10 weater its got 4 windows or one nothing stupid about thats how i work and so does nearly every window cleaner in my area.
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
Ok, try to see it from another perspective rather than just being aggressive about it.
It's nothing to do with it "only being £8" in the way that £8 is not a lot of money. For me, it's that rather than spending time on "endless phone calls, door banging etc..." and then time going round to collect, perhaps another approach would be to forget the £8 and use the time cleaning someone's windows who might turn out to be a good long-term customer. I wouldn't be "£8 short", I'd be "up one new customer."
My view is that my business is cleaning windows. I chase debts until the time spent collecting looks like becoming more than it's worth. I don't care what a non-customer thinks of me. If it costs more (in time, postage, driving, etc) to collect a debt than the value of that debt, I'd be mad to chase.
And now call me a gay, southern jessie who knows nothing about window cleaning and has only just started and has a smart van if it'll help you to deal with my disagreeing with you...
Vin
Stupid post, so every minute you're not cleaning windows has to be accounted for yet you'd rather pound the streets replacing with another job, you must be owed a lot of money as this would be an endless cycle.
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Cleanclear - Please explain how you would of got the money, what would you have done that I hadnt already tried? (you will have to find my other thread, where ive listed what I done)
You will notice that thread is titled 'THAT £8', as it was aimed at the people who commented on my last thread, advising me to forget about the money, and that I will never get it.
I'd of just done similar to you without threatening to come through the front door. Glad to see your in i'll call and collect it now thanks, i'll be round in a minute. You'll get yourself in trouble threatening people.
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Some who haven't paid me for whatever reason are still good custy's
??? Sorry, thats a bad customer isn't it?
No
Some I have cleaned for years and for example they feel the back didn't get cleaned
because of no footprints in snow ??? [this was two days later]
Gate latch broken because of careless window cleaner [or the wind]
They definitely paid [ no they didn't ]
Gate not shut properly dog escaped not paying [no latch kept shut by plant pot] ::)roll
These are just some examples of custy's who didn't pay and I still clean
and to be fair are good custy's.
Sometimes they have bad days then along comes the windy man ;D
and I'm pretty sure with time to think most know they were wrong so
try to make up with a tip or fascia clean, gutter clean ect
Don't get me wrong if they tried it on again they would be dropped.
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Some who haven't paid me for whatever reason are still good custy's
??? Sorry, thats a bad customer isn't it?
??? ??? ??? ??? ???
No
Some I have cleaned for years and for example they feel the back didn't get cleaned
because of no footprints in snow ??? [this was two days later]
Gate latch broken because of careless window cleaner [or the wind]
They definitely paid [ no they didn't ]
Gate not shut properly dog escaped not paying [no latch kept shut by plant pot] ::)roll
These are just some examples of custy's who didn't pay and I still clean
and to be fair are good custy's.
Sometimes they have bad days then along comes the windy man ;D
and I'm pretty sure with time to think most know they were wrong so
try to make up with a tip or fascia clean, gutter clean ect
Don't get me wrong if they tried it on again they would be dropped.
Rightie oh ;)
Whatever you say guv'nor.
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Cracks me up, cos the ones that are knocking me for it, had they of been in the same situation, would be £8 short, and have a bloke walking round the town thinking hes got the better of you.
No brainer really. ;)
Ok, try to see it from another perspective rather than just being aggressive about it.
It's nothing to do with it "only being £8" in the way that £8 is not a lot of money. For me, it's that rather than spending time on "endless phone calls, door banging etc..." and then time going round to collect, perhaps another approach would be to forget the £8 and use the time cleaning someone's windows who might turn out to be a good long-term customer. I wouldn't be "£8 short", I'd be "up one new customer."
My view is that my business is cleaning windows. I chase debts until the time spent collecting looks like becoming more than it's worth. I don't care what a non-customer thinks of me. If it costs more (in time, postage, driving, etc) to collect a debt than the value of that debt, I'd be mad to chase.
And now call me a gay, southern jessie who knows nothing about window cleaning and has only just started and has a smart van if it'll help you to deal with my disagreeing with you...
Vin
Stupid post, so every minute you're not cleaning windows has to be accounted for yet you'd rather pound the streets replacing with another job, you must be owed a lot of money as this would be an endless cycle.
My stalker is back!
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Some who haven't paid me for whatever reason are still good custy's
??? Sorry, thats a bad customer isn't it?
No
Some I have cleaned for years and for example they feel the back didn't get cleaned
because of no footprints in snow ??? [this was two days later](DUMP)
Gate latch broken because of careless window cleaner [or the wind]](DUMP)
They definitely paid [ no they didn't ]](DUMP)
Gate not shut properly dog escaped not paying [no latch kept shut by plant pot] ::)roll](DUMP)
These are just some examples of custy's who didn't pay and I still clean
and to be fair are good custy's.
Sometimes they have bad days then along comes the windy man ;D](DUMP)
and I'm pretty sure with time to think most know they were wrong so
try to make up with a tip or fascia clean, gutter clean ect ](STILL DUMP)
Don't get me wrong if they tried it on again they would be dropped.
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Thats good that
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£8
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I think you we're right o chase the £8 James. I have and would do again if needed. Although I don't agree with threatening a client. Maybe next time just put the dirt back over the windows ;)
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I havent collected for years, just leave a self addressed envelope and any money owed by the time next clean is due (which is very rare) doesnt get cleaned plus i,d never be cleaning windows for £8 anyway i,m running a business not a charity.
stupid comment! how much do you charge then for 4 little windows?
£10 weater its got 4 windows or one nothing stupid about thats how i work and so does nearly every window cleaner in my area.
So the extra £2, from £8 to £10 turns you into a business and not a charity then does it. What a stupid thing to come out with.
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Cleanclear - Please explain how you would of got the money, what would you have done that I hadnt already tried? (you will have to find my other thread, where ive listed what I done)
You will notice that thread is titled 'THAT £8', as it was aimed at the people who commented on my last thread, advising me to forget about the money, and that I will never get it.
I'd of just done similar to you without threatening to come through the front door. Glad to see your in i'll call and collect it now thanks, i'll be round in a minute. You'll get yourself in trouble threatening people.
READ MY EARLIER POSTS AND YOU WILL SEE HOW I TRIED ALL THESE OPTIONS. I SENT LETTERS, I WENT ROUND KNOCKING, I SENT TEXTS, I TRIED TO MAKE PHONE CALLS, I GOT HUNG UP ON, I RECEIVED MESSAGES PROMISING PAYMENT, I DID NOT RECIEVE PAYMENT.