Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paul McHugh on March 20, 2013, 02:55:57 pm
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I'm a bit embarrassed to bring this post up really but here goes,
Yes I'm fairly new at the job only a couple of months into it now
have not done many cleans and like a lot of you struggling to get any business.
I do seem to be throwing away a fair bit of prespray after every job.
Ok ok, but add it up at the end of a year and you busy guys are costing yourselves.
So, cold unused spray. could we mix it with something, can we use it again added to
fresh pre spray .
I thought about using it added to the clean water to enhance the clean, I only put
acid rinse in my my tank normally, up to now using solutions products,
Anyway am I missing a trick!! or as above, caring for the environment and the worlds resources
or just a Tight Git!
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I use 2 litre spray bottles, so rarely have any left over after a job ;D ;D
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Keeping costs down is the name of the game ;D I use Mircro splitters and Chemspecs DFC range and have had no problems using the following day if I have any left over but I don't mix with fresh, I use left overs first. Consider even when mixing chems 'hot' by the time you pre-spray it's cooled considerably and on large jobs it's getting cold anyway. One trick is whilst you're learning to judge how much you will need is knock a litre off what you think you may need so you are not mixing up too much. I have not had much experience with MPower and with SPM containing an oxidiser that may also effect how it keeps, check with Solutions I'm sure Nick will give sound advice. Enzall cold can make a great spotter!
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Shaun Ashmore!
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Shaun Ashmore!
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M power doesn't keep very well at all... After a day it starts to "clean" the water, and hence reduces the effectiveness... After a few days it is no good for cleaning, but will help the tomatoes to grow ;D ;D
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It costs pennies per job, I don't give a second thought - always mix new the next day.
The more jobs you do, the more you will gauge how much to mix up on each one, but seriously the cost is so small it's of no consequence.
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It costs pennies per job, I don't give a second thought - always mix new the next day.
The more jobs you do, the more you will gauge how much to mix up on each one, but seriously the cost is so small it's of no consequence.
I'm of the same opinion. Pennies lost, but if a per spray is sub par the next day it may yield a poorer result or take longer. These things are more likely to affect your bottom line in the long run.
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Why would you throw it away? what makes you think it is no good the next day.
Do you only make your spotters on a daily basis or do you throwthem out every day too.
I always just add to mine the next day and it works fine.
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Paul does that mean you add it to the fresh and just reduce the quantity a bit
oh and how long do you think they keep before losing there effect
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Just make less than you are doing.
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Hector so on larger carpets you make another 2 liters and then maybe more ?
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I use SPM or equivalent and it aint as good the next day.
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I use a m/s ( triphosphate) which is the base chem of spm for my customers as a spotter. I have been to a customer 18 months later that has still half a bottle left and still works fine ;)
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I use a m/s ( triphosphate) which is the base chem of spm for my customers as a spotter. I have been to a customer 18 months later that has still half a bottle left and still works fine ;)
SPM (or equivalent ) has something else in it too though Paul. ;)
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Yep it has an oxi booster, its this that will be spent. It will still work though, but as you say not as strong.
There are other things that you can do to boost your prespray and spotters and also make them lat longer, but thats a secret ;D
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Yep it has an oxi booster, its this that will be spent. It will still work though, but as you say not as strong.
There are other things that you can do to boost your prespray and spotters and also make them lat longer, but thats a secret ;D
I'm sure all will be revealed at the TACCA weekend. ;D
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Hector so on larger carpets you make another 2 liters and then maybe more ?
Yes Paul... although these days I pretty much get the quantity spot on..
I have 250 ml plastic bottles with lines painted round measuring the quantity of chemical per 1 litre, so I can make up in 1 litre increments if I like.
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Billy Russell I'm not tight I'm 'careful' austerity isn't just for the government it's for life!
Shaun
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An extension to this same thread
The product that's left if made from Powder ie SPM, I found on more than one occasion
the wand on the sprayer blocks up "aarrrhh" and after clearing blocks up again
at least with the left overs its usually free off bits/lumps and works just fine result!!
On a serious note even when I put powder to water a liter at a time before gently
pouring into sprayer and collecting those bits at the bottom before they go in
I still get the bloody spray wand blocked what do you do to stop it.
without resorting to liquid solutions
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As Steve says, I like mine like Hovis...fresh every day.
M Power works out at about 10p per litre so it's not
exactly going to affect your bottom line.
Throw 2 litres away a day that's £1 per week 46 weeks
is £46 per year.
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An extension to this same thread
The product that's left if made from Powder ie SPM, I found on more than one occasion
the wand on the sprayer blocks up "aarrrhh" and after clearing blocks up again
at least with the left overs its usually free off bits/lumps and works just fine result!!
On a serious note even when I put powder to water a liter at a time before gently
pouring into sprayer and collecting those bits at the bottom before they go in
I still get the bloody spray wand blocked what do you do to stop it.
without resorting to liquid solutions
I would just chalk it up to experience. ;)
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Did someone say saving money?
Welcome to my world my friend 8)
Yes, pre-spray left in your sprayer over night is fine. Infact, i've used Enz-all (an enzyme based pre-spray) over night in my van and used it the next day with great results. But this is not common with other enzyme based products.
Tony
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Paul Mchugh,
you will save yourself a lot of hassle by filtering everything that goes into your sprayers. even if you just pour it in through a towel. There is nothing worse pr more unproffessional looking than messing about with a sprayer. It is also difficult to do a good job if your equipment is not functioning properly. The best way is to buy funnels with filters in them but if they are not handy just pour through a towel or cloth.
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardif.com
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Thats a good tip Peter.
Billy Russell always sends me his old tights to use as filters, some times though they have lumpy bits in them. :o
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Cottage Cheese? :D
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Billys are no good, what with the holes cut out over the @rse.
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Maybe use a microsplitter and add a seperate booster such as Energiser or Energbrite. Even if thats spent the next day you can just add another scoop.
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On a serious note even when I put powder to water a liter at a time before gently
pouring into sprayer and collecting those bits at the bottom before they go in
I still get the bloody spray wand blocked what do you do to stop it.
without resorting to liquid solutions
Buy a funnel with a gauze filter in it or put an old pair of tights / stockings over the funnel.
Leftovers? I spray the moss on the drive. Powerburst works best, followed by solutions HD. The rest of the solutions range don't do a good job as they seem to be good for the environment. ;D
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Thanks for some great posts lads, had to laugh at the hole in the tights still chuckling
Hey, I feel an @rse the tights on the funnel of course doh!
I know lots of folk rave about M Power, it just doesn't do it for me 10min dwell 20 or 30 tried em all
which co does enzal come from chemspec ?
Big day for me the Jeiba arrives!!
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are you mixing the Mpower too strong Paul?
It really needs to be no stronger than 1:100
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Thats a good tip Peter.
Billy Russell always sends me his old tights to use as filters, some times though they have lumpy bits in them. :o
;D ;D ;D
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Paul
I had a huge improvement in results with M-Power when I started using at 1:120 (the recommended dilution!) as opposed to 80-100:1.
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