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Title: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: john martin on March 18, 2013, 06:27:20 pm

 Others have mentioned this is coming ... but i see a few specs now .

http://www.prochem.co.uk/endeavor.htm


 Some nice features , like the way the heater slides in , giving an internal/external use option i presume .

 Rotary vane pump ? have we seen that before ?  This is what im getting on a google search ...
 http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v5/231730913/Rotary_Vane_Water_Pump_B125F.jpg

Weight looks good enough at 50kg .

 Twin 6.6  ....   the 279CFM looks right ...  the 154" lift looks optimistic , nobodys got more than 130 i'v seen , but near enough .

Fairly expensive though . 
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on March 18, 2013, 06:42:14 pm
I can't see it being much different from the competition it's a dedicated carpet cleaning machine with the 150 or 250 psi water pump not really sure that 800 psi was needed anyway on other models although the jag I had a great free flowing pump it was very good.

I think the higher price is to allow for the supplier to make a chunk as well as offering discounts of rrp.

Shaun
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 18, 2013, 06:52:21 pm
Don't like that at all, and very expensive.

Ashbys Enforcer would be a better purchase.
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Andrew@Approved Carpet Cleaning on March 18, 2013, 07:06:13 pm
Not convinced. Yes i know looks are'nt everything, but it looks very dated. Much better looking and performing machines out there.
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: stuart_clark on March 18, 2013, 07:11:59 pm
I still think the Storm is the best 6.6 machine out there! best build quality best looks and best price
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Len Gribble on March 18, 2013, 07:39:08 pm
I like idea for the wand holder, wonder where they got that from :D
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Carpet Dawg on March 18, 2013, 07:47:57 pm
Dont see the point in the wand holder myself. Dont you have to take it off when loading or off loading from the van anyway.

I presume you cant adjust the pump?

Body is a bit dated too.

Apart from that, i'm sure it cleans fine  ;D
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Kev Loomes on March 18, 2013, 08:04:52 pm
Agree, don't like that at all! And surely wouldn't it have been better to reduce the heat to a 2kw and then put another vac on? As opposed to one vac and 3kw heater?
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: M.Acorn on March 18, 2013, 08:10:15 pm
Only 2 years on the tank !! Was 7 on the Sieempro
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: john martin on March 18, 2013, 08:26:15 pm
Agree, don't like that at all! And surely wouldn't it have been better to reduce the heat to a 2kw and then put another vac on? As opposed to one vac and 3kw heater?


Its a twin vac ,  or do u mean 2kw+ a vac on one cord ?

it would be good if its a two cable machine including the heater , but id say the heater is third cord . Dont know .   3kw is worth having  .

I dont find the looks too bad  , although the Enforcer looks much more robust and well built , Storm and evolution look quality too .

Its an Edic body like before  , might look better in the flesh
this is the US  T&G version

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00GsiQaeHgvuoM/Edic-1200-Psi-Endeavor-Grout-and-Tile-Carpet-Multi-Purpose-Extractor-Cleaner.jpg
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Russ Chadd on March 18, 2013, 09:28:59 pm
Seriously... Prochem are a little late in offering us this machine... cheaper machines on the market with similar if not better features.
If it has an inline heater which can be use in or out of the machine... then i like this feature
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Kev Loomes on March 18, 2013, 09:42:03 pm
I probably read it wrong lol, thought it said one vac.
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: neilwebber on March 19, 2013, 05:13:05 pm
I saw this model at the Cleaning Show today.  I agree that the water pump seems to be a bit under powered, and the opening for the clean solution tank seemed to be a bit awkward (depending on the shape of your bucket).  It looked a bit of a beast as well !
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: stuart_clark on March 19, 2013, 08:37:15 pm
Kev
It says dual vacs mate
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Kev Loomes on March 19, 2013, 09:14:41 pm
Oh ok cheers for clearing that up Stu.
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: jim mca on March 19, 2013, 09:23:43 pm
Its not just the psi of the pump but the flow rate that counts the 800psi pumps have a good flow rate at 150psi so can flush much better than a 150psi pump and if its the same heat n run inline its pants compared with a magma heater
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Russ Chadd on March 20, 2013, 11:43:49 am
Jim is correct... i compared the flow rate between both of my machines... one is regulated to a max of 400 psi and the other 150 psi.
when the 400 was turned down to 150 both machines gave similar output using the same wand
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: john martin on March 20, 2013, 12:17:07 pm

Flow seems linked to the HP of the motor ,  in the endeavor flow might depend on what rotary vane pump is used and how big the motor driving it , looking at  the proconpumps website , they have rotary pumps that can do 140us gph on a 1/2HP @ 250psi  ,  which would i think be comparable flow to the big motored pumptecs .
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Mark_Jubb on March 21, 2013, 10:55:45 pm
Saw it at the Cleaning show today and didn't particularly like it at all.
Very bulky, very heavy. Wand holding straps on the front looked cheap and the magnetic device for holding the lid open on the clean water tank either didn't work or was completely missing. I think there are probably some better value machines available.
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: Jamie Pearson on March 21, 2013, 11:49:10 pm
I just posted a picture of the internals on our facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/cleaningsystemsuk (https://www.facebook.com/cleaningsystemsuk)

Cant like the image from my phone.
Title: Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
Post by: john martin on March 22, 2013, 12:01:54 am

 Thanks , it shows that unusual pump   :)