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Title: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 18, 2013, 05:30:27 pm
ive been using the dual trim extreme brush since the start of this year & i really like it,
 but,
i find that the finer/shorter central bristles get all matted together


(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z295/dune19670/004-12_zps35bdb8c7.jpg)


so thought i would try an old estandard extreme and make my own dual trin version to see if this would perform any better

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z295/dune19670/002-12_zps01bc1232.jpg)

anyone else tried this, if so how did you get on with it ???
i'll let you know how i get on with it.
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 18, 2013, 05:43:02 pm
Been doing it for yonks Steve. What I do is cut all the bristles down & have the inner two rows "just" shorter than the outer rows. This makes a very subtle dual trim & one amazing brush!!! More accurate, faster, better scrubbing power & the bristles last much longer than standard length!

If you have a dual trim to begin with (Xtreme that is) then trim the outer two rows so that they are just longer than the inner two- you'll never look back. I'm still using the same brush I've used every day for 10 months!! It's ready for changing about now though. ;)
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 18, 2013, 05:43:48 pm
I've got some pics, I'll try & put them up later. ;)
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 18, 2013, 05:45:09 pm
I was just going to ask you that  ;D
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: Dave Willis on March 18, 2013, 06:00:36 pm
How do you manage to wreck one end and not the other  ???
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: Dave Willis on March 18, 2013, 06:02:06 pm
I've often wondered what a brush made the other way round would be like - short stiff bristles and long soft outer.
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 18, 2013, 06:05:11 pm
How do you manage to wreck one end and not the other  ???


Secret  ;D
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: dazmond on March 18, 2013, 06:18:07 pm
do you use hot water with that first  brush steve?ive never knackered a brush like that in nearly 3 years of WFP!! ;D
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 18, 2013, 06:20:35 pm
do you use hot water with that first  brush steve?ive never knackered a brush like that in nearly 3 years of WFP!! ;D

Yes mate, i do.
But tbh its only been lukewarm water, i think its because the inner bristles are finer.???
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 18, 2013, 06:53:27 pm
do you use hot water with that first  brush steve?ive never knackered a brush like that in nearly 3 years of WFP!! ;D

Yes mate, i do.
But tbh its only been lukewarm water, i think its because the inner bristles are finer.???


The inner bristles are much finer/softer so as you say they will be affected by heat/abrasion more than the stiffer outer bristles.

The second brush that you have shown is a much stronger bristle and is probably much better suited to a warm/hot water system than the medium mixed brush.
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 18, 2013, 07:01:04 pm
Its a shame that the finer bristles tend to curl up Alex as i like the feel of the brush, feels like a flocked brush.
I'll have to see how my chopped version performs ??
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: SB Cleaning on March 18, 2013, 07:03:10 pm
Been doing it for yonks Steve. What I do is cut all the bristles down & have the inner two rows "just" shorter than the outer rows. This makes a very subtle dual trim & one amazing brush!!! More accurate, faster, better scrubbing power & the bristles last much longer than standard length!

If you have a dual trim to begin with (Xtreme that is) then trim the outer two rows so that they are just longer than the inner two- you'll never look back. I'm still using the same brush I've used every day for 10 months!! It's ready for changing about now though. ;)
I'm gonna give it a go on my extreme brushes.
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 18, 2013, 07:07:28 pm
Been doing it for yonks Steve. What I do is cut all the bristles down & have the inner two rows "just" shorter than the outer rows. This makes a very subtle dual trim & one amazing brush!!! More accurate, faster, better scrubbing power & the bristles last much longer than standard length!

If you have a dual trim to begin with (Xtreme that is) then trim the outer two rows so that they are just longer than the inner two- you'll never look back. I'm still using the same brush I've used every day for 10 months!! It's ready for changing about now though. ;)
I'm gonna give it a go on my extreme brushes.

Take your time & make a good job ;) I use a piece of very thin ply-wood to slide between the rows of bristles. I then use a brand new scraper to cut against this, working my way along an inch or so at a time. ;)

I can't use normal length bristles anymore, it just feels like a floppy mop on the end!
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 18, 2013, 07:12:41 pm
I found a piece of metal 30mm high and about 100mm long, slid it between the rows and used a pair of scissors to trim the bristles back.
I think i might trim the outer bristles down a tad aswell like has been suggested
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: richard jagger on March 18, 2013, 07:16:39 pm
I don`t hve that problem with hot water as I put my brushes in slightly hotter than my pole water but not boiling at the end of each day just hanging in until cool and the next day the are all strait again.
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 18, 2013, 07:18:26 pm
Are you using the dual trim extreme ???
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 18, 2013, 07:22:45 pm
Hope this works- the brush isn't the medium mixed but you get the idea. ;)


The black one is cut down & shown next to a standard one.

(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u631/winproclean/DSC00797_zpsaadf1046.jpg)


(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u631/winproclean/DSC00796_zps46a8e6de.jpg)
Title: Re: prototype extreme brush
Post by: richard jagger on March 19, 2013, 07:24:28 am
If its me you talking to Steve the answer is yes I do use one.from time to time.
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: Lee GLS on March 19, 2013, 12:25:16 pm
Winpro, do you still use the black brush, or have you moved over to the medium mixed and trimmed that down. How well does the black scrub?
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 19, 2013, 12:32:08 pm
Winpro, do you still use the black brush, or have you moved over to the medium mixed and trimmed that down. How well does the black scrub?

Once the black brush is trimmed down it scrubs very well, un-trimmed I can't use it. I currently use a medium mixed with the outer (white) rows cut down. I got it to try but almost immediately cut it down & it has lasted 10 months of daily abuse!! I have found that all my Xtreme brushes last much longer with shorter bristles- they tend not to curl when cut down or get caught in gaps & pulled out either! ;)
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 19, 2013, 02:10:06 pm
Well i used my new cut down extreme for 6hrs today , and i must say im liking it.
Great scubbing, will have to give it a few weeks trial to see how long it lasts
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 19, 2013, 02:23:53 pm
Well i used my new cut down extreme for 6hrs today , and i must say im liking it.
Great scubbing, will have to give it a few weeks trial to see how long it lasts

Did you cut down the outer rows steve or just the inner?
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: steven ainger on March 19, 2013, 03:10:19 pm
Well i used my new cut down extreme for 6hrs today , and i must say im liking it.
Great scubbing, will have to give it a few weeks trial to see how long it lasts

Did you cut down the outer rows steve or just the inner?

ive just cut down the inner at the moment to see how i get on.

i do have a black extreme, which i think would benifit more if i cut all the bristles down, like what you have done, as its a little softer than the mono fillament extreme
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: Dave Willis on March 19, 2013, 05:00:26 pm
Winpro, what's Alex's view on this?
I have a couple of Xtremes that have gone a bit curly wurly that I don't use anymore. Maybe I'll straighten them out and get snipping. How much do you take off - about 1cm?
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 19, 2013, 05:18:54 pm
Winpro, what's Alex's view on this?
I have a couple of Xtremes that have gone a bit curly wurly that I don't use anymore. Maybe I'll straighten them out and get snipping. How much do you take off - about 1cm?

I wish Alex would have them manufactured but the demand would have to be there. This is one of those cases where you have to do it & use one to appreciate the difference it makes.

If you have a Xtreme medium mixed DT, then just trim the outer white rows down so that they are "just" longer than the inner black rows. It's probably about 10/12mm I would think yes.

When you look at the bristle profile of the tips along it's length, a flat or concave profile is MUCH more effective in my experience than a convex one- This picture will show what that means, the black profile is concave while the standard white is convex. ;)

(http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u631/winproclean/DSC00799_zps78b27858.jpg)
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: Alex Gardiner on March 19, 2013, 05:25:11 pm
Winpro, what's Alex's view on this?


I have worked with ♠Winp®oClean♠ modified Xtremes and they work well. However I still prefer them slightly longer.

I am in the middle of finishing off the details of a new Xtreme brush and it is possible, if there is enough interest, that I may try a shorter bristled version.
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 19, 2013, 05:26:54 pm
Winpro, what's Alex's view on this?


I have worked with ♠Winp®oClean♠ modified Xtremes and they work well. However I still prefer them slightly longer.

I am in the middle of finishing off the details of a new Xtreme brush and it is possible, if there is enough interest, that I may try a shorter bristled version.


There you go boys, get snipping!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: Dave Willis on March 19, 2013, 05:43:08 pm
ᴥWinproᴥ how do you do that? I can only find moustaches  ???
Title: Re: Prototype extreme brush
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on March 19, 2013, 05:47:27 pm
ᴥWinproᴥ how do you do that? I can only find moustaches  ???

MS Word  -insert-symbol, cut then paste. :)