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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 12:54:54 pm

Title: Industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 12:54:54 pm
Who has one,how much you pay?
what are the benefits?

Im thinking about getting one but worries about water bills being high,
ive seen some council units that would be good,i want one to sort the water keep a trailer there and be able to park my van inside at night!
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: Paul Clapham on March 17, 2013, 01:23:58 pm
 I have had loads of units in the past ( in a different business) just a couple of hints if you have never had one before.

Council run "Enterprise units" are usually the most cost effective, but be very careful with ANY lease you sign, as you may be asked to sign a Personal Guarantee, ( even if you run a Ltd company ) what this means if you go bust ,YOU will have to keep paying the rent and rates until the lease is up ! Have a professional read the lease for you !!!

Try to get a lease on a 90 day notice where at any time you can, and the council can, give each other 90 days notice at any time.

Also check out all the costs , water rates (is it on a meter) Unit insurance costs, business rates , electrics etc etc .

Good luck , Paul.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: Griffus on March 17, 2013, 01:25:03 pm
You're looking at least £500 per month with bills on top. Water meter likely so a pain.

Rates at the moment on properties with a rateable value of £6,000 or less are at 100% relief, which means you pay nothing, this is a big help, but unless you really need a unit, why put the extra cost on yourself?

If it's just for storage what about a garage or lock-up, or look around for a company that may let you use part of their unit.

Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 01:29:17 pm
I have had loads of units in the past ( in a different business) just a couple of hints if you have never had one before.

Council run "Enterprise units" are usually the most cost effective, but be very careful with ANY lease you sign, as you may be asked to sign a Personal Guarantee, ( even if you run a Ltd company ) what this means if you go bust ,YOU will have to keep paying the rent and rates until the lease is up ! Have a professional read the lease for you !!!

Try to get a lease on a 90 day notice where at any time you can, and the council can, give each other 90 days notice at any time.

Also check out all the costs , water rates (is it on a meter) Unit insurance costs, business rates , electrics etc etc .

Good luck , Paul.

Cheers mate
Im looking at the council enterprise ones,just had a drive round a few and have to say they look nice but cant see anywhere that says anything about having water.
They seem to have toilet blocks and have seen outside taps there so could run a pipe to ro!
Price is very good and they come with free broadband,waste disposal and insurance
They are also easy in easy out terms.
It all sounds rather good rent is very cheap too.
They have 24 hour access and cctv on them too.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: Smudger on March 17, 2013, 01:38:43 pm
windie,

what sort of prices are you looking at?
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 01:43:50 pm
windie,

what sort of prices are you looking at?

Laughable prices on the website although its in a bad estate but to be fair the units are immaculate and has cctv everywhere from £75 a month upto £327 at that site.Sizes start at 15.9sqm upto 19.6 sqm is £90 a month 80 sqm is £327 i only need a bit bigger than a garage size.
Where i live theres some about 5 minute walk away but they start at £400 a month upto £950 but them being big.But there is another site that look secure starting at £125.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on March 17, 2013, 01:50:38 pm
Farms are a good place to start.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 01:54:37 pm
Farms are a good place to start.
Good idea they have lots of farm buildings but are they secure,a mate of mine has a big unit he has cars at on a farm,hes a recovery driver but sells lots of cars and parts.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: supernova77 on March 17, 2013, 02:57:57 pm
I pay £120 a month for a unit which is about the size of a double garage... It's nothing special but it's dry and has water and electricity... I like having all the equipment and van away from home it keeps work separate from home life.

Andy
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 03:27:25 pm
I pay £120 a month for a unit which is about the size of a double garage... It's nothing special but it's dry and has water and electricity... I like having all the equipment and van away from home it keeps work separate from home life.

Andy
Thats exactly what i want andy.
I could go to the unit fill my van leave it there and go home ready for the next morning.
Forget work then till the next day.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: Crystal-clear on March 17, 2013, 03:49:57 pm
I pay £120 a month for a unit which is about the size of a double garage... It's nothing special but it's dry and has water and electricity... I like having all the equipment and van away from home it keeps work separate from home life.

Andy


I would love that , where is the best place to look? All I find are expensive things which is overkill
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: supernova77 on March 17, 2013, 03:52:49 pm
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I would love that , where is the best place to look?

My unit is on an old pig farm... It's not a pig farm anymore - all the outbuildings have been converted into units.

Do you have any farms with out buildings near you?

Andy
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: Crystal-clear on March 17, 2013, 04:10:58 pm
Hmm no , i guess u were a bit lucky, I had an idea to canvass my area offering for someone's garage a monthly fee with use of water and elec and small space for an ibc,

But don't really want to do that I just want to be normal pay about what you are but find it advertised just no site which does ,
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: toronto on March 17, 2013, 07:15:25 pm
renting a yard could be cheaper then put a shipping container etc in it. I share a yard three of us in a 1200 square metre yard with water and electric costs £85 each have a porta cabin on site as an office a workshop area and I use an ex ambulance van body as a water plant fully insulated and heated .
it's a good place to go and chill out when skiving so the wife doesn't find me lol
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 10:21:04 pm
im going to step up the search in the morning,
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: MATT BATEMAN (OWC) on March 17, 2013, 10:22:47 pm
If you have any luck bagsy I get first dibs ;-)
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 10:29:29 pm
i used to clean windows on a farmhouse last year,they had loads of outbuildings but we parted company as i turned up one day and the woman says the windows are clean still and dont need cleaning,come back next month,bearing in mind its a 5 minute drive down a narrow lane to the farm.
 i spat my dummy out  ;D
better not ask them,lol
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 17, 2013, 11:23:06 pm
just found out of some lock ups at the back of some houses.ill be having a look tommorow,just done goodle maps and theres a sign units to rent.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: Ian Rochester on March 18, 2013, 05:56:31 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1363586158_New Unit 003.jpg)

If you can stretch to it then look at buying, works out cheaper in the long run and gives you an asset, we bought this a couple of years ago, this is a photo from when I bought it (3200 sqft) with an office and additional floor space on a mezzanine (900sq ft)
 
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: robertphil on March 18, 2013, 07:32:21 am
wherever you take ,have a good look at the electric meter ,is it moving when you are not there

 i used to rent on an ind estate and when a unit was empty other would dig a shallow trench/tunnel and tap into its electric whoever then moved in had no idea .
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 18, 2013, 08:20:40 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1363586158_New Unit 003.jpg)

If you can stretch to it then look at buying, works out cheaper in the long run and gives you an asset, we bought this a couple of years ago, this is a photo from when I bought it (3200 sqft) with an office and additional floor space on a mezzanine (900sq ft)
 
Now thats what you call a unit.very nice.
Maybe one day.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: windiewasher on March 18, 2013, 08:21:37 am
wherever you take ,have a good look at the electric meter ,is it moving when you are not there

 i used to rent on an ind estate and when a unit was empty other would dig a shallow trench/tunnel and tap into its electric whoever then moved in had no idea .
I will take that bit of advice thank you.i will check that.
Thanks
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: George Gardner on March 18, 2013, 10:15:38 am
Some one above said it - go and ask a farmer!

I live on a farm, and if someone approached the old boy or me we could easily accomodate. Next to an old grain shed extent a bit throw some gravel down, even look at plonking a unit down somewhere, or using an old container. Seen 3 great coverted shipping containers before.
Title: Re: industrial units
Post by: Xline Systems on March 19, 2013, 05:40:21 am
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1363586158_New Unit 003.jpg)

If you can stretch to it then look at buying, works out cheaper in the long run and gives you an asset, we bought this a couple of years ago, this is a photo from when I bought it (3200 sqft) with an office and additional floor space on a mezzanine (900sq ft)
 

im doing something wrong lol