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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 09:43:58 pm

Title: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 09:43:58 pm
I'm not going to name the company on here, however if you are based in Walsall and have had a new site built recently, then you need to contact me at your earliest opportunity.

You have copied and pasted large chunks, even pages, of my website. A site that I spent hundreds of hours writing unique content for - only for you to press a button on your computer and plagiarize it !!

Do the decent thing and make contact with me, or simply remove the offending text - which will be most of your site.
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Griffus on March 15, 2013, 10:12:20 pm
Just to say we are Walsall based and it's not us  :o

Our website is 100% original, not one to boast but last time I looked we we're on page 123456789 of Google, is that good?
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: wynne jones on March 15, 2013, 10:20:09 pm
Why didnt you just send them an email or ring them up direct?
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 10:24:52 pm
I will be, don't worry about that - or do you think I should be considering their feelings ?
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Griffus on March 15, 2013, 11:07:57 pm
I will be, don't worry about that - or do you think I should be considering their feelings ?

To be fair, they may be an innocent Party. They may have paid someone in good faith, who has then just copied your stuff and told them a pack of lies.

I'd be interested in the outcome, no names needed, just whether a local (Walsall) web designer is up to no good.

If possible, post an update after speaking to them.

Cheers
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mark Blazey on March 15, 2013, 11:08:51 pm
Same content as this site http://chemdrycleaningsc.info/
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mark Blazey on March 15, 2013, 11:14:33 pm
Is this your site too?

http://www.1stcarpetcare.co.uk/index.html
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 11:16:18 pm
Nope
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 11:18:18 pm
What really pees me off, is that I spent thousands having that site built and nearly six months writing the content - a couple of hours each night.

Then someone comes along and copies/pastes it and hasn't even got the sense to remove the name of the area I work in.
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 11:20:54 pm
I will be, don't worry about that - or do you think I should be considering their feelings ?

To be fair, they may be an innocent Party. They may have paid someone in good faith, who has then just copied your stuff and told them a pack of lies.

I'd be interested in the outcome, no names needed, just whether a local (Walsall) web designer is up to no good.

If possible, post an update after speaking to them.

Cheers

I agree Ian, it could well be the web designer at fault - either way I will get to the bottom of it
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mark Blazey on March 15, 2013, 11:21:47 pm
On this site http://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/
It shows their content was added one day before yours.  ::)roll
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 11:23:19 pm
Really Mark ?!!

Well that's amazing, considering I wrote every friggin word of it myself
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mark Blazey on March 15, 2013, 11:26:22 pm
Look cut & paste from google

Professional Carpet Cleaning Services Surrey
www.carpetcareplus.co.uk/residential/professional-carpet-cleaning
15 Dec 2011 - We also offer a Low Moisture Carpet Cleaning Service for carpets that can't be wet cleaned due to type, construction or location. We have invested heavily over ...
Services - 1st Carpet and Upholstery Care
www.1stcarpetcare.co.uk/services.html
14 Dec 2011 - We also offer a Low Moisture Carpet Cleaning Service for carpets that can't be wet cleaned due to type, construction or location. We have invested heavily over ...

Also Vicki from TopMark this evening...  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 11:30:30 pm
I don't give a monkeys what that report says, I wrote my site and they have plagiarized it
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mark Blazey on March 15, 2013, 11:35:13 pm
It was designed by this company http://www.azsolution.co.uk
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 15, 2013, 11:36:14 pm
Yes I saw that link I will be contacting them also
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mark Blazey on March 15, 2013, 11:36:20 pm
Easy £300 to £500 for them!
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on March 16, 2013, 02:08:54 am
They are breaching the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

I'd give them 7 days to remove the content.

If they don't respond, just send a request to google and they will remove the site from search results. They will also know when the content was added.

Select ''web search'' and continue
http://support.google.com/bin/static.py?hl=en&ts=1114905&page=ts.cs


http://www.google.co.uk/dmca.html
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Griffus on March 16, 2013, 08:38:29 am
It was designed by this company http://www.azsolution.co.uk

I see this Company are registered at a small terrace house. I know the area well  ::)roll. My guess would be a young student type making a few bob on the side. There's a chance that there isn't even a Carpet Cleaner involved, might be setting up to sell on.

Definitely interesting how this pans out, including the support you get from Google. Raises the question of who really Polices such things and how effective are they for SME's.

Here you go, nothing that isn't visible via YELL: -

A Z Solution, 4 King St, Walsall, West Midlands, WS1 4AF

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=azsolution&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on March 16, 2013, 09:08:13 am
or is it 115, Wednesbury Road, Walsall with the same phone no? ::)roll

http://one2onehometeaching.co.uk/contactus.html

http://akoyatech.co.uk/about-us.html

Any web designer with half a brain should know not to scrape content from another site.
Quite possibly the carpet cleaner has seen the the link on here and thought, that looks good, we'll have some of that.

Then there is the problem that the googles algo may not be able to make ups it's mind which is the original content and penalise either one site or another for duplicate spam. Google are certainly tightening up on this.

Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: wynne jones on March 16, 2013, 09:47:30 am
Steve, looking on the bright side, they scoured the Internet for the best copy and chose yours.  ;)

Send the website owners a bill. Then they have to go after their web designer. Who knows you might get a few bob out of it.
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Carpet Dawg on March 16, 2013, 10:16:30 am
^^ there's more chance of god's second coming to this earth than that happening.

Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: james roffey on March 16, 2013, 11:11:04 am
Web designer or someone being lazy, adds up to the same thing, damage to Steve's business that he had clearly made a lot of effort into being unique for SEO.
Hope it is sorted and they do the decent thing.
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on March 16, 2013, 11:36:03 am
The ridiculous thing is - they haven't even deleted the word "Surrey" from the copied text, even though they are based in Walsall.

So to any doubters that's one of the reasons I can prove they copied me rather than the other way around.

I mean FFS, some of the text is from a presentation I gave to a networking meeting 18 months ago !
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: garry22 on March 16, 2013, 11:46:17 am
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Send the website owners a bill. Then they have to go after their web designer. Who knows you might get a few bob out of it.

Steve, I sent you a PM on CT about this.

Garry
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Rob_Mac on March 16, 2013, 11:49:07 am
Grab screen shots Steve.

They may here about this and start changing it slightly

Rob ;D
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: robert meldrum on March 16, 2013, 12:11:27 pm
Don't think I'd pick a fight with Steve..............always smiling but he's a big lad and a little upset right now ( for good reason )
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Paul Moss on March 16, 2013, 12:31:00 pm
He is bound to be pis sed off as i know he spent a lot and i mean a lot of time and money getting this site done.
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: Mike Gwilliam on March 16, 2013, 12:43:07 pm
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I mean FFS, some of the text is from a presentation I gave to a networking meeting 18 months ago !

That would be before the domain was registerd then?  ;)

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=http%3A//www.1stcarpetcare.co.uk
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: wynne jones on March 16, 2013, 01:05:46 pm
As always, someone says I'm not going to name and shame them on here and then......

Poor old Mohammad might not even have a clue about this.
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: AshWhite on March 16, 2013, 02:23:29 pm
Ask Higgins to send an e-mail demanding the text be changed. Or nip round there in the 308 GTS and sort them out!
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: wynne jones on March 16, 2013, 03:32:56 pm
Ask Higgins to send an e-mail demanding the text be changed. Or nip round there in the 308 GTS and sort them out!

 ;D
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: richie on March 16, 2013, 06:47:43 pm
The address in King Street Walsall is a 3 minute drive from my home :) 
Title: Re: Walsall based carpet cleaners
Post by: sherco on March 16, 2013, 07:01:52 pm
Go onto www.copyscape.com type in your web site and it shows you who has been using your site contents. Its quite interesting.