Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: john stracey on March 14, 2013, 06:14:50 pm
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gonna be upgrading my van soon, and want to go with a 650 litre tank, anyone got some good ideas about securing this in the back, my current 350 ltre tank has been secured by battens screwed into van floor with a ratchet strap but have never been entirely happy with this, hopefully this next van will last me around 10 years, so want to get it right,I have a customer who is a welder who would help with this cheers for any replies john.
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Buy the angle iron yourself and get a frame made up by your mate or a fabricator. Got my frame done recently, welded, and powder coated and bolted to floor. £200 all in.
Brad.
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so thats bolted to the floor and not the chassis
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purefreedom will supply and fit the tank ;)
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Couple of blobs of superglue under the tank should do it.
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Couple of blobs of superglue under the tank should do it.
I think that is overkill, Dave.
If the van payload is 1000kg then I would put a 1000 litre IBC in but so you can move it about to fit in your trad gear etc you should put about a dozen castors under it.
To reduce weight, make sure the tank is unbaffled and take out the van manufacturer's bulkhead too.
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Blue tack and a bit of velcro should do a good job.Then you can remove the tank and do the boot sale business on week ends. ;D ;D ;D
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The weight of the water its self will stop it moving no need to secure it down. Just keep it fully topped up.
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I do love the humour on here, but anyone know for sure if its ok to bolt onto the van floor or chassis ;) :(
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Most of the reputable companies bolt through the chassis apart from Grippamax who use a spreader plate system under the floor I believe and is crash tested.
Not much point in bolting to anything if the cage is crap.
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so after all that, the way i'm gonna tackle this is, spreader plates bolted thru the chassis with an angle iron frame which my welder customer is going to take care of, for some free window cleaning can't wait to be out with 650 litres behind me happy days.
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so after all that, the way i'm gonna tackle this is, spreader plates bolted thru the chassis with an angle iron frame which my welder customer is going to take care of, for some free window cleaning can't wait to be out with 650 litres behind me happy days.
Not many (if any) vans in the sub 3.5T category actually have a chassis. They are monoquoqe (sp?) construction. That basically means the strength is all in the body shell. There are small members that run here and there across the underneath of the bodywork, by drilling these and clamping you are compromising the shells construction. The crash testing of vehicle systems relates to the tank frame retaining its integrity and not to the tank frames security to the vehicle. I mention this because its possible to have a frame retain its integrity and rip right out the floor, or right out the chassis depending upon how its been fitted. Tank fitting has never been tested.
Just like a risk assesment and method statement, it would vary for every vehicle..
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i heard it wasnt a good idea to drill and bolt through the chasis hence why gripamax dont do this.. as they tried it and it made it weaker.
The grippa pro is just frame bolted through van floor with plates
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Buy the angle iron yourself and get a frame made up by your mate or a fabricator. Got my frame done recently, welded, and powder coated and bolted to floor. £200 all in.
Brad.
was just having that conversation with steve ainger this morning - frame made powder coated and fitted for 200 quid absolute bargain!!
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scroll down for Purefreedoms crash video.
First time I've seen it.
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pure-freedom-fully-fitted-water-fed-pole-systems-p-296.html
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scroll down for Purefreedoms crash video.
First time I've seen it.
http://www.purefreedom.co.uk/pure-freedom-fully-fitted-water-fed-pole-systems-p-296.html
Very good, just like the others i seen and confirms the frame will retain its integrity and not enter the cab on the vehicle tested. I'd like to see other tests on other vehicles with differing size systems. That would be good.
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Dont grippamax come to your door and fir their frames for £300?