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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Whizz-Bizz on March 12, 2013, 09:10:27 pm
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Do you love it, hate it or dont do it ?
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I dont do it.
But the people that do, love it when they pick up work, and hate it when they dont ;)
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
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To be honest with this weather and the lack of work im picking up at the moment im hating it !
For example tonight i puck up 2 fronts one for £7 and 1 for £5 4 weekly and a full gutter fascia conservatory clean and windows toprice up next friday . this was an hrs door knocking and i had to give in my hands were froze that much they were burning
Im planning 4 nights per week from now on for 3 hrs per night
Fingers crossed eh .
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Its the thought of doing it i dont really like but once i am out doing it i enjoy it. ;D
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
I would be up for a dual and would take you up on the deal, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, not if it was for your own personal round. Reason being its too in your favour, your round, your patch, you judging who the winner is . I hearby suggest you come to Essex for a few days over the next three weeks.
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To be honest with this weather and the lack of work im picking up at the moment im hating it !
For example tonight i puck up 2 fronts one for £7 and 1 for £5 4 weekly and a full gutter fascia conservatory clean and windows toprice up next friday . this was an hrs door knocking and i had to give in my hands were froze that much they were burning
Im planning 4 nights per week from now on for 3 hrs per night
Fingers crossed eh .
Its not a bad pick up rate at all, to be fair. In extreme weather I have a golf ball that i use to knock the door, rather than my ice cold knuckles
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Whats the worst day canvassing you've ever had whizzbiz?
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Whats the worst day canvassing you've ever had whizzbiz?
The worst day ever, flippen heck theres been a few. I remember being out all day and had to argue for scraps from other cleaners. Things like backs only or YESSSSSSSSSSSS please just that window above conservatory roof. Then I had a rather nice indian chap tell me if we do his £30 filthy house for £20 he tell all his neighbours all his driving school clients and his massive family to use us and this conversation seemed to last an hour. All the time Im thinking ONE OFF menace. Took the job he said thanks absolute one off. That was a day that nearly made me quit. Think I got paid £14 that day spent £20 on food and travel
But the ultimate worst day since Ive been doing this was the first time I got ripped off it was £700 totally out the blue absolute heartbreaker
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
I would be up for a dual and would take you up on the deal, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, not if it was for your own personal round. Reason being its too in your favour, your round, your patch, you judging who the winner is . I hearby suggest you come to Essex for a few days over the next three weeks.
essex will be fine, will have to be within working distance for me though to do the work. Or we could just hit a random area so would be totally fair and sell the work to someone else when we are done and winner gets 75% and loser 25% of the 2 clean value.
after we will see who's the daddy..... Lol.
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
I would be up for a dual and would take you up on the deal, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, not if it was for your own personal round. Reason being its too in your favour, your round, your patch, you judging who the winner is . I hearby suggest you come to Essex for a few days over the next three weeks.
essex will be fine, will have to be within working distance for me though to do the work. Or we could just hit a random area so would be totally fair and sell the work to someone else when we are done and winner gets 75% and loser 25% of the 2 clean value.
after we will see who's the daddy..... Lol.
listen to you 2 ;D ;D .... whos the daddy lol ................. you aint seen anything yet once me and Mr Bob Plumb get going we will get loads ................... whose yer daddy ;D ;D
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To be honest with this weather and the lack of work im picking up at the moment im hating it !
For example tonight i puck up 2 fronts one for £7 and 1 for £5 4 weekly and a full gutter fascia conservatory clean and windows toprice up next friday . this was an hrs door knocking and i had to give in my hands were froze that much they were burning
Im planning 4 nights per week from now on for 3 hrs per night
Fingers crossed eh .
How can you grumble at 2 new customers from an hours knocking.
This year i've canvassed 2 whole Saturdays without picking up a single job.
Picked up recently though thank god, had about 10 new ones last week or so.
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Its just a little grumble !!!
I just have higher expectations when im canvassing thats all .
My best to date was £100 in 2 hrs knocking on my own and to be honest
That round on its own is growing steadily each month so i think a big push is needed for that area next time that part of my round is due .
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I love canvassing esp when you get a yes at the very start.
Fell out of the habit the last 18 months as too busy actually cleaning windows .... employed a canvasser at one point but didnt do what I asked so didnt last too long then another one broke his ankles and couldnt work for 8 weeks so kinda forgot about it.
Canvassing is like magic for growing your business and in the short term nothing betters it ... if done properley theres no reason for a massive drop out of customers ... maybe im lucky but rekon ive still got over 90% of anything ive canvassed.
Been dropping leafets for a while but did some door knocking other day close to an apartment block we do and got 3 within 20 minutes which is good as the apartments took most of the day now got 4 houses as well (3 canvassed and 1 already) so for compacting your work canvassing is great.
Like some say you gotta be in the mood for it though however I think of it as a £12 job on the monthly is really worth an extra £144 and 10 of those ... well you can do the sums :)
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
I would be up for a dual and would take you up on the deal, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, not if it was for your own personal round. Reason being its too in your favour, your round, your patch, you judging who the winner is . I hearby suggest you come to Essex for a few days over the next three weeks.
essex will be fine, will have to be within working distance for me though to do the work. Or we could just hit a random area so would be totally fair and sell the work to someone else when we are done and winner gets 75% and loser 25% of the 2 clean value.
after we will see who's the daddy..... Lol.
listen to you 2 ;D ;D .... whos the daddy lol ................. you aint seen anything yet once me and Mr Bob Plumb get going we will get loads ................... whose yer daddy ;D ;D
... Another challanger... Bring it on ian ;D
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
I would be up for a dual and would take you up on the deal, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, not if it was for your own personal round. Reason being its too in your favour, your round, your patch, you judging who the winner is . I hearby suggest you come to Essex for a few days over the next three weeks.
essex will be fine, will have to be within working distance for me though to do the work. Or we could just hit a random area so would be totally fair and sell the work to someone else when we are done and winner gets 75% and loser 25% of the 2 clean value.
after we will see who's the daddy..... Lol.
listen to you 2 ;D ;D .... whos the daddy lol ................. you aint seen anything yet once me and Mr Bob Plumb get going we will get loads ................... whose yer daddy ;D ;D
... Another challanger... Bring it on ian ;D
yup defo ... just waiting for my new flashy triple folded all singing and dancing new leaflets to arrive .... hopefully this Friday then will be starting in earnest (thats a small town near me :D)
got 2 aims to build my round by 200 customers before end of August and to build a new round a few miles down road to me in rural Chester of about 2 to 3 days worth of work which will then be sold off come September to finance a crap winter. ..... may lead to me offering my canvassing services out to others ??
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
I would be up for a dual and would take you up on the deal, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, not if it was for your own personal round. Reason being its too in your favour, your round, your patch, you judging who the winner is . I hearby suggest you come to Essex for a few days over the next three weeks.
essex will be fine, will have to be within working distance for me though to do the work. Or we could just hit a random area so would be totally fair and sell the work to someone else when we are done and winner gets 75% and loser 25% of the 2 clean value.
after we will see who's the daddy..... Lol.
listen to you 2 ;D ;D .... whos the daddy lol ................. you aint seen anything yet once me and Mr Bob Plumb get going we will get loads ................... whose yer daddy ;D ;D
... Another challanger... Bring it on ian ;D
yup defo ... just waiting for my new flashy triple folded all singing and dancing new leaflets to arrive .... hopefully this Friday then will be starting in earnest (thats a small town near me :D)
got 2 aims to build my round by 200 customers before end of August and to build a new round a few miles down road to me in rural Chester of about 2 to 3 days worth of work which will then be sold off come September to finance a crap winter.
You will do that easy if you stay focused bud. Way before august, drag yourself and another out 3 times a week withought fail and you could possibly hit your 200 customers in 2/3 months, by august you could have 400 new customers. Onwards and upwards.
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i am looking for a good canvasser in East Devon,anyone?
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I have never bought anything on my doorstep. People who try to sell me anything on my doorstep, whether it's windows, kitchens, or subscriptions to newspapers are told to go away.
I would never try to sell anything at someone's doorstep.
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I have never bought anything on my doorstep. People who try to sell me anything on my doorstep, whether it's windows, kitchens, or subscriptions to newspapers are told to go away.
I would never try to sell anything at someone's doorstep.
Its a good job that not everybody is like you then!!!
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I have never bought anything on my doorstep. People who try to sell me anything on my doorstep, whether it's windows, kitchens, or subscriptions to newspapers are told to go away.
I would never try to sell anything at someone's doorstep.
Its not selling its offering a service!
Selling is when you sell extensions and conservatories and that costs thousands!
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I have never bought anything on my doorstep. People who try to sell me anything on my doorstep, whether it's windows, kitchens, or subscriptions to newspapers are told to go away.
I would never try to sell anything at someone's doorstep.
You see, the good thing is, I don't care what anyone at the door thinks. I ask them if they got my flyer, and then ask them if they are interested or not. Some will, some won't, so what, who cares? On to the next door.
Simple really.
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I don't care what anyone at the door thinks.
Do you not get annoyed when you get cold called?
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Its not selling its offering a service!
Call it what you want. I don't want people coming to my door even if they are offering me something for nothing.
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I hate having 10's of different leaflets through the door each day so all of them get binned withought reading any. Doesnt it anoy you that most people find leaflets anoying and bin them??.
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Doesnt it anoy you that most people find leaflets anoying and bin them??.
It does annoy me when I have personally put flyers through someone's door on numerous occasions and they have spotted me on the street and said 'oh I have been looking for a window cleaner'. ::)roll
If you are asking if I get annoyed with leaflets coming through my door the answer is yes, but rather that than have to speak to another human being. Face to face.
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Doesnt it anoy you that most people find leaflets anoying and bin them??.
It does annoy me when I have personally put flyers through someone's door on numerous occasions and they have spotted me on the street and said 'oh I have been looking for a window cleaner'. ::)roll
If you are asking if I get annoyed with leaflets coming through my door the answer is yes, but rather that than have to speak to another human being. Face to face.
I dont get why you are so against canvassing for gaining new custom??. It purely is 2nd to none against anyother method. There is no other way to gain customers so fast and so compact with such little outlay than to simply canvas. Its not a dreaded cold call at all as soon as i say im a window cleaner 99% of the time they relate with me and say good luck with building etc. its a service that everybody wants if they havnt got a cleaner(if they can afford it or dont do it themselfs).
I know you have a great business that was passed down to you and you build with leafletting and fair play to you but this is a canvassing thread and im always for the canvassing posts and the possitives in canvassing as thats what makes me get out and do it, i love hearing other success stories also i like to give mine and give motivation to others regarding canvassing. Its a no brainer for newbies wanting a round built with minimal expence in minimal time. I get untolds of emails and phonecalls about canvassing and advice on best ways to go about it etc and everytime it has helped them out. Maybe if a funny confident guy knocked on your door your wife would sign up with them if you wouldnt??. Thats another plus with knocking an area twice within 6 months. Always someone else to answer the door who isnt such a moody negative person.
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I don't care what anyone at the door thinks.
Do you not get annoyed when you get cold called?
Nope, and I learned years ago never to second guess what people are thinking. The point Mick made is it's a great way to build fast and mostly compact work. I'm building a business or adding to a business. Why on earth would I worry about what someone thinks about me knocking on their door? I'd hate to have to drive from every job to the next, or move my vehicle every job I go to.
I stopped worrying about whether custies want their windows done in the rain etc. Who cares? If they don't want their door knocked or windows cleaned in rain, so what? Next door and someone else does want it.
I think I see this the same way Mick and a lot of others do. Takes real bottle for some of these guys to stick away that much rejection. Hats off to 'em IMO. I don't need guts, I enjoy canvassing, but full respect to those who hate it but do it anyway.
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I dont get why you are so against canvassing for gaining new custom??.
It's not that I'm against window cleaners canvassing, I am against all cold calling in principal.
Always someone else to answer the door who isnt such a moody negative person.
Moody negative person?? How about relaxing in their own home only to be disturbed by a cold call?
I get pestered constantly by call centres phoning me at home, drives me nuts. To me it's the same thing.
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I have never bought anything on my doorstep. People who try to sell me anything on my doorstep, whether it's windows, kitchens, or subscriptions to newspapers are told to go away.
I would never try to sell anything at someone's doorstep.
Its a good job that not everybody is like you then!!!
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I have never bought anything on my doorstep. People who try to sell me anything on my doorstep, whether it's windows, kitchens, or subscriptions to newspapers are told to go away.
I would never try to sell anything at someone's doorstep.
Its a good job that not everybody is like you then!!!
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I have never bought anything on my doorstep. People who try to sell me anything on my doorstep, whether it's windows, kitchens, or subscriptions to newspapers are told to go away.
I would never try to sell anything at someone's doorstep.
Its a good job that not everybody is like you then!!!
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Lol
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Out of interest do you get imaginative ways of being told to 'go away'?
A friend of mine told me he uses the line when he gets a cold call from a call centre:
"sorry now is not a convenient time, can you give me your home number and I'll call you back later"
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I do appreciate that I am probably in the minority here and hey, if it works for you then who the bejeezus am I to criticise anyone. Hats off and all that.
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Out of interest do you get imaginative ways of being told to 'go away'?
A friend of mine told me he uses the line when he gets a cold call from a call centre:
"sorry now is not a convenient time, can you give me your home number and I'll call you back later"
Nope. I could think of better put downs than that one though. Do you expect people that do canvass to stop canvassing now because they never thought of people not liking cold callers?
How did you build your business? Leaflets and sat at home waiting for work to come in? I don't know you so I'm curious.
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Yes when they say they do it thereself with 5 years worth of grime over the glass. Which happens more than not. Thats the main sod off excuse i get. Never get any rude ones though. Had a few nearly have a heart attack at my prices though lol.
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Do you expect people that do canvass to stop canvassing now because they never thought of people not liking cold callers?.
Like I said, I have no right to criticise the way anyone goes about their business.
How did you build your business? Leaflets and sat at home waiting for work to come in? I don't know you so I'm curious.
We built the business entirely on leaflets. In the beginning it was pretty much a full time job. We had another business that we were winding down at the time, so time was split between the two. There was certainly no sitting about waiting.
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Yes when they say they do it thereself with 5 years worth of grime over the glass. Which happens more than not. Thats the main sod off excuse i get. Never get any rude ones though. Had a few nearly have a heart attack at my prices though lol.
Do you get people who are clearly at home but just blatantly ignore you?
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Well aren't you worried about people being annoyed about leaflets stuffed into their letterbox?
Do you see what I mean? Some people can't handle rejection, it's a basic fear, so totally normal
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You get allsorts of people answer the door or not answer the door lol .
I actually knocked on a window cleaners house last night but he doesnt work the areas around where he lives and gave me an address of someone on the estate that wants a cleaner .
The way I see it is this day in age if you want something you have got to go out there and get it
Ive learned the hard way ive wasted numerous flyers to not get a sniff .
Dont get me wrong ive had a couple of calls from flyers but not puck up half as much work than door knocking .
As mr whizz put it to me the once he said you have already done half the job walking up the drive so you may aswell knock the door whilst you are there .
Also it has been said the amount of people who just bin flyers without even looking what they are
Is a big number of people , I even do it myself all these flyers I just chuck them straight in the recycling bin .
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I call the people that go mad at the door screamers, its an occupational hazard unfortunately. They are few and far between and funny thing is I find people are alot braver screaming at you on the phone than they are at the door.
Ive had many many many customers say to me "oh I never buy at the door normally" Its all how you put yourself across.
My attitude is this every NO is one step closer to a YES. Never dwell on the no's and just keep on moving on.
Leaflets are great if you got loads of work already, but its so slow and Ive actually followed up massive leaflet drops and even seen the flyers in the recycle bin outside then booked them in.
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i am looking for a good canvasser in East Devon,anyone?
Book me in my numbers on my website
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i am looking for a good canvasser in East Devon,anyone?
Book me in my numbers on my website
what do you charge?
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i am looking for a good canvasser in East Devon,anyone?
Book me in my numbers on my website
what do you charge?
Would you be able to get my number of my website, or give me a shout on facebook/twitter reason being the admins are pretty hot on me posting such information
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I call the people that go mad at the door screamers, its an occupational hazard unfortunately. They are few and far between and funny thing is I find people are alot braver screaming at you on the phone than they are at the door.
Ive had many many many customers say to me "oh I never buy at the door normally" Its all how you put yourself across.
My attitude is this every NO is one step closer to a YES. Never dwell on the no's and just keep on moving on.
Leaflets are great if you got loads of work already, but its so slow and Ive actually followed up massive leaflet drops and even seen the flyers in the recycle bin outside then booked them in.
Love that attitude ;)
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I call the people that go mad at the door screamers,
I had a girlfriend once..... :-X
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I call the people that go mad at the door screamers,
I had a girlfriend once..... :-X
;D ;D
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Hi whizz. I love it. How you doing at the mo with business?? If not too busy or you have a spare night soon Then I challange you to a canvassing dual for a bit of fun next time your near se london, as your a decent honest canvasser.
If you win ill pay you 3x monthly value on what you get me and if i win i get what you canvass for me for free.??
Are you in??. ;D
I would be up for a dual and would take you up on the deal, BUT and this is a BIG BUT, not if it was for your own personal round. Reason being its too in your favour, your round, your patch, you judging who the winner is . I hearby suggest you come to Essex for a few days over the next three weeks.
essex will be fine, will have to be within working distance for me though to do the work. Or we could just hit a random area so would be totally fair and sell the work to someone else when we are done and winner gets 75% and loser 25% of the 2 clean value.
after we will see who's the daddy..... Lol.
comebip my way I will be the judge and I will pay the winner I have an area you could work for 2 days straight not touched for ages
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Im not sure whizz would want to go that far to lose..... What you think whizz? You up for it. :o
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If it doesnt cost me anything in regards to travel, accomodation etc I could be persuaded
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no would only be a 1 day event hit 20 od deals each then do 1 after winner is paid, id only be happy charging ian 1-1.5 cleans though as im not prepared to go back and replace cancelations if there is any.
If you get to a londonbound train station ill drive us up there and drive us back, no need to scare anyone off charging accomodation and travel!. Are you scared you will lose???. Lol. Winner can pay the loser £50 for trying. So at least you get a £50 for your troubles.... ;D
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Lol mick haven't you got enough on your plate you just can't get away from knocking on doors for yourself and everyone,marks well tied up at the mo stuck in Essex for a month then off to Wales and somewhere els but I think you 2 will get on like a house on fire since u run a canvassing service too :)
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So say one of you get £200 and the other £150 Ian's on to a winner only paying say 100% of the £200 £350 for £200 count me in ill buy that ;) why not bring your whole canvassing crew too best package ever ! Everyone will want some at 0.60% you can't go wrong ;))