Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Hard Floor Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Neil Jones on March 08, 2013, 05:50:46 pm
-
Hi, i've been asked to clean two hard floors in a regular carpet cleaning clients building. This is a care home for the mentally disabled.
I have been meaning to do a hard course for six months now, but time has always let me down but it is definitely next on my list over the next few month, it is likely to be Kevin's as well, i've mentioned this is in the past.
I need some help with identification (hard to see on the photos), cleaning solution, time it will take, and process. I have most things at my disposal, rotary, wet vac etc.
Unlike most hard floor cleaning domestic jobs that come up I don't want to turn this job down as it the flooring used throughout the building in which I clean all the carpets, if I can do a good job then it is likely i'll be offered the chance to do the rest.
Help appreciated guys.
-
It won't let me upload the photos ???
-
This site is a nightmare for uploading photos.
-
I'll 2nd that - can't be arsed any more :(
-
Hi Neil google tinypic then upload your photos there and copy the link here
Phil.
-
Hi, i've been asked to clean two hard floors in a regular carpet cleaning clients building. This is a care home for the mentally disabled.
I have been meaning to do a hard course for six months now, but time has always let me down but it is definitely next on my list over the next few month, it is likely to be Kevin's as well, i've mentioned this is in the past.
I need some help with identification (hard to see on the photos), cleaning solution, time it will take, and process. I have most things at my disposal, rotary, wet vac etc.
Unlike most hard floor cleaning domestic jobs that come up I don't want to turn this job down as it the flooring used throughout the building in which I clean all the carpets, if I can do a good job then it is likely i'll be offered the chance to do the rest.
Help appreciated guys.
Neil
E mail me the photos and I will get Tony to upload them I had the same problem earlier with the grout haze photos. tilinglogistics@hotmail.com
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tilinglogistics
-
Hi, just sent the email Kevin, should take a minute or so to come through. Thanks
-
Neil
Got the e mail! Not best photos but will get Antony to upload them on Monday
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
-
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1363024831_DSC_0866.JPG[img]http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1363024959_DSC_0865.JPG[img]http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1363024984_DSC_0866.JPG)[/img][/img]
-
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1363025030_DSC_0864.JPG)
-
(http://i48.tinypic.com/250r1x2.jpg)
-
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9t2bo.jpg)
-
(http://i46.tinypic.com/53lrb7.jpg)
-
Sorted, need to quote for this either tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest so any help much appreciated. See OP.
-
Bonamain will clean that a treat..I know its expensive ;D
-
Sorted, need to quote for this either tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest so any help much appreciated. See OP.
Neil
I got your e mail and I am sorry I have not had time to reply. However, you have a choice? 4 Options as I see it!
1. As Andrew pointed out Bonamain is supposed to be good for this application which looks like Altro Flooring to me but I cannot tell if it's their normal one or stronghold from the photos. You can get this from Jamie at CSUK!
2. Tadgh O'Shea has a system that he says works well on this type of flooring!
3. There are some on the Forum that say you should only use Altro's own products!
4. Finally we have had 100% success with this type of flooring using Aqua Mix HDT&G Cleaner or AllForStone Xtreme Clean coupled with 500 or 800 grit honing powder.
It is up to you!
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
-
It looks like non slip altro floor i used to labour for a bathroom fitter doing wetrooms this is what they fitted never heard it called any different. Would like to know what you use and results Neil when your done mate.
Cheers Phil.
-
Thanks for replies, i'll have a look into all my options, and if i don't make a pig's ear of it i'll post some completed pictures.
-
Bonamain will clean that a treat..I know its expensive ;D
The blue version not the pink one.
In my experience this type of floor is best cleaned using a good quality product such as those mentioned with an extended dwell time but a SOFT pad or brush so it can get into the contours and groom out all the crap.
Usually the problem is residue from mopping of hard surface cleaners or pine gels. Be careful to qualify discolouration from oxidised oils that have attached to the vinyl.
Do not apply finish to these types if floors unless you can find the manufacturer and consult their recommendations.
-
Exactly what I told them Jamie, then they said we do use flash all the time on them. Is there a cheap product that I can recommend for them to use after i've carried out the clean?
-
Be careful to qualify discolouration from oxidised oils that have attached to the vinyl.
[/quote]
Ok, simple terms for me please?
-
Neil
What jamie means is make sure on your test area that it is dirt you are pulling off and not making the covering bleed or lose colour because of the chemicals you are using.
Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics
-
Thought as much, would always test anyway, as with carpet cleaning. I've emailed you Kevin.
-
Even after intensive cleaning and removing all the soil from the floor the traffic lanes may still be visibly discoloured.
On certain types of safety floor raw vinyl is used without the application of a PU wear layer such as that found on Amtico or Karndean. Oils from cheaper hard surface cleaning products and general traffic bond to the vinyl, oxidise from exposure to air and cause yellowing of the floor that can't be removed.
As Kevin suggests resist the urge to keep scrubbing and scrubbing to the point that you start to cause physical damage to the floor.
You should always qualify potential discoloration so that you can get paid at the end of the shift if this is the outcome.
For on going maintenance chemspec Neutral Floor Cleaner is perfect. It has a dry residue so won't attract soil. It dilutes at 1:60 but 1:100 is just as effective. 4x5l costs just £40 so it's not only excite its also economical. If they need disinfectant properties Prochem Protect is worth considering.
-
Cheers Jamie, I will recommend both the suggested products. These associations are often very sparing with money though, even though it is economical in the long run they are likely to baulk at the initial outlay and stick to £1 bottles of flash with measurements such as 'large gluggs' or 'a splash'.
I will also have a walk around again before cleaning to look for signs of excessive wear or yellowing.
-
The yellowing can often be well hidden only beingreveleadwithcleaning. Justbesuretomention it"in writing" before you start