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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: lee_dewing on February 18, 2006, 11:59:18 am

Title: frame cleaner product?
Post by: lee_dewing on February 18, 2006, 11:59:18 am
hi, anyone heard of a company called shematile (spelt wrongly)
heard some where this german company make plastic upvc frame cleaning products very good, apparantley.
tryed search on net but as i don't know spelling having probs
thanks lee
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: Sir Squeaky on February 18, 2006, 12:25:22 pm
Do you mean shemales?

You wanna watch them. :o
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: lee_dewing on February 18, 2006, 06:32:04 pm
I'd rather not thanks all the same
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 18, 2006, 07:00:32 pm
You can buy a solvent upvc cleaner, made by a company called webseal, comes in 1ltr bottles. Smells quite nice as well, very strong! If you have dirty plastic frames, use a little bit of this on a pure white tissue ( no tissue with colour in it for obvious reasons ) wipe over the frames and with a little rub this will bring the plastic back up to brilliant white again, make them look like they have just been installed. The customers will love you, and if you wipe the frames down from then on, they will stay like that for a long while. I even use the same stuff to get sticky and ground in marks off the glass. On Brown upvc i use a silicone spray, same thing wipe over the frames to get them to shine, but not on the glass if you can help it. I have on brown upvc used wd40 as this does the same thing, but works out quite expensive. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 18, 2006, 07:02:45 pm
Oh yes, the reason why i do not use the same solvent cleaner on the Brown frames is this makes them go white, so do not use that!!!
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: rosskesava on February 18, 2006, 07:18:53 pm
Hi

I've done a search for Webseal but can't find anything.

Do have any more info on them or know of any company that sells their stuff?

We've a large job coming up soon and they want all the frames whitened.

Cheers and thanks

Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 18, 2006, 07:32:44 pm
Thats the product that i use, but there is lots of different ones out there on the market that do the same job. Webseal make silicone mainly, but also do bolt on products, make a very good trade glass cleaner. The place that i buy it from is a small plastic supllier, they supply plastic trims, fascia, soffit, guttering ect. Thats where you will find the sort of stuff for definate! Werth, think thats how you spell it also make it, they do lots of products for the building industry. If your doing a big job, i would recommend using the cleaner on the frames and the glass, but using different pieces of tissue on each. Then when you have cleaned the glass with the solvent and it is dry, spray with a glass cleaner and buff up. Takes a while, but your customers will be well chuffed, and if your going back to clean the windows in future, will make your job so much easier!!!
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 18, 2006, 07:38:35 pm
Oh and another that i use is called Bond It! Like i said there are lots out there!
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 18, 2006, 07:48:34 pm
Just looked on google, a company called national plastics do one for 3.67 inc vat for one litre bottle. www.nationalplastics.co.uk. This would do one to one and a half houses inc the glass! 14 windows and a few doors, depends on how dirty they really are.
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: busydaffodil on February 18, 2006, 09:07:00 pm
Ask most window fitters and they will tell you that most UPVc Cleaners are White Spirits with added chemicals to make it smell nice, so they can charge you more for it.  Try it.   99p bottle from B & Q then clean your own frames. 
(was in the double glazing trade for many years you see)
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: mark.laycock1@ntlw on February 18, 2006, 09:19:44 pm
is that white spirits will clean upvc window frames,doors,and gutters
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: busydaffodil on February 18, 2006, 09:22:25 pm
White spirit will clean UPVc.   It also leaves a very nice shine.

Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 18, 2006, 09:37:15 pm
White sprit is too oily and does not get rid of the dirt and grime or imperfections on the glass, and you stink for days!! I also have a windows doors and conservatory business.
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: busydaffodil on February 18, 2006, 09:44:21 pm
Well, you could be right.   I was only in UPVc for 5 years.  Worked for a UPVc panel manufacturer selling to national companies as well as little firms.   This White Spirit tip I was told about by many of the customers.  Still, we stand corrected.

Personally, I would try the 99p version first before spending £4 per litre or whatever "specialist" stuff costs.
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 18, 2006, 10:02:14 pm
No your also right, you can use white sprit, but it is really only good for newly fitted frames. The reason why a lot of window companies use white sprit is for that reason and its cheaper. We dont use it because the customer complains that the smell lingers for days and its not nice. Plus the solvent with a little elbow grease, will remove small scratches!!
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: james44 on February 18, 2006, 11:54:20 pm
niceandclean, what is the name of the company that you get your stuff from, do you have a phone number or web address, usally there is a phone number or web address on the bottle, i have tried many solvents but do not come up as good as you say they do, can you help always willing to try new stuff





james
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 19, 2006, 03:26:50 pm
I get mine from two different suppliers, both small family run. Ill have a look at the bottle and let you know of numbers ect!
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: dish on February 20, 2006, 09:41:03 pm
ive used something called techtron plastic clean cleaner and renovator that I bought from nfmwgc.  Was never over impressed though. 
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: james44 on February 21, 2006, 06:13:52 pm
Hi, niceand clean do you have any phone numbers yet
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 21, 2006, 06:18:40 pm
Yes sorry, ill pop out to the van now, hold on!
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 21, 2006, 06:26:12 pm
Ok the one we are using at the moment is Bond It Clean. PVCu Solvent Cleaner. Fast acting, Removes ingrained dirt, and restores surface colour. As i said do not use on foiled PVCu!
Tel 01484 727400
Fax 01484 727490
sales@bond-it.co.uk
Hope that helps.
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: John Kelly on February 21, 2006, 06:33:19 pm
We use Tcut on internal upvc frames to remove smoke residues. Good if the dirt is really ingrained. Polish with a decent polish afterwards and they gleam.
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: james44 on February 21, 2006, 09:18:21 pm
Thanks niceandclean









james
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: james44 on February 22, 2006, 09:11:52 pm
Hi niceandclean tried the numbers you gave me, they are unreconised, do you have any other numbers
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: niceandclean on February 22, 2006, 10:02:13 pm
Yes i just tried the number also??
Anyway, if you go to www.bond-it.co.uk there contact details are on the website, different details to whats on the bottle i have. If you go to prouducts, then cleaners, its the solvent cleaner at the bottom of the page, orange label.
It looks as though they will give you one of there suppliers details, as they dont deal direct.
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: lee_dewing on March 07, 2006, 03:53:59 pm
hi just found this http://nwbuildingplastics.co.uk
also www.avrfixings. sent for brochure webbseal products.

thanks nice and clean
Title: Re: frame cleaner product?
Post by: g_griffin on March 07, 2006, 04:33:31 pm
We use Tcut on internal upvc frames to remove smoke residues. Good if the dirt is really ingrained. Polish with a decent polish afterwards and they gleam.


      I had a customer who cleaned their own UPVC frames (external) with T-Cut and the result was very impressive.

                            Gerry.