Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: George P on March 04, 2013, 06:23:57 pm
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just pinched this and thought it apt,
Return evil to no one you could hurt someone completely innocent.
The best revenge is ....................................
A HAPPY LIFE
as youve decided to do a runner and disappear with my four and a half grand, are you going to cry to the mods this time or are you actually going to pay something, im a big believer in karma, sleep tight,
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???
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:o
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WELL I WONT BE DOING ANY WORK FOR CLEAR MAGIC :)
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whos clear magic
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on here it steve cm from
ClearMagic
MOD NOTE:
PLEASE DON'T PUT OTHER MEMBERS ADDRESS DETAILS ON T'INTERWEB. HE MAY HAVE IT ON A WEBSITE, HE MAY STICK IT UP ON THIS FORUM, BUT PLEASE, YOU DO NOT.
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firstly if clear magic is reading,do the decent thing and pay.....anything
but can i ask George how or why did the bill get that big,was there not a point were you thought...mmmmm something not right
cheers bob
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firstly if clear magic is reading,do the decent thing and pay.....anything
but can i ask George how or why did the bill get that big,was there not a point were you thought...mmmmm something not right
cheers bob
when doing a lot of stores you dont expect to get paid quickly, it was a big bulk of work so soon mounts up, also maybe i trusted him too much, so when he says he will pay i thought he would, obvious now i know that i should have maybe stopped sooner, but i had a lot of long conversations over the phone and he did seem genuine,
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firstly if clear magic is reading,do the decent thing and pay.....anything
but can i ask George how or why did the bill get that big,was there not a point were you thought...mmmmm something not right
cheers bob
when doing a lot of stores you dont expect to get paid quickly, it was a big bulk of work so soon mounts up, also maybe i trusted him too much, so when he says he will pay i thought he would, obvious now i know that i should have maybe stopped sooner, but i had a lot of long conversations over the phone and he did seem genuine,
good luck fella in getting your money..............maybe small claims court ???
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thanks erith
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http://w w w .s c s f-u k.com /theforum/ possibly try there believe he may be one of the mods, hope you get your money or at least some of it..
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thanks p1w1, will have a look
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That's shocking mate,
I know you're due a payment from me but that's disgusting 4.5k. :-o
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George what happened when you went to the solicitors mate? Nothing they can do?
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plus their is a sandwich/snack van site aswell but i can't find it.
Paul
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think hes still shining, but not ltd
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Very strong Comments to put on a forum especially from someone who hides his own contact details.
Not saying what you are saying is true or untrue but in my opinion/experience it might be better to take legal action before stating on an open forum whats happened.
Good luck either way.
We just had one go into Administration for about £1800 >:( - Flackley Ash Hotel - Peasemarsh RYE KENT
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George what happened when you went to the solicitors mate? Nothing they can do?
as he was ltd theysaid i could take it further, but would cost me more and still without quarantees,
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Very strong Comments to put on a forum especially from someone who hides his own contact details.
Not saying what you are saying is true or untrue but in my opinion/experience it might be better to take legal action before stating on an open forum whats happened.
Good luck either way.
We just had one go into Administration for about £1800 >:( - Flackley Ash Hotel - Peasemarsh RYE KENT
nothing to hide rhinoman, i think a few on here know me, however for those that dont
powells window cleaners
128 ashland rd west
sutton in ashfield
notts
ng17 2hs office no 01623 554926
mobile 07813 540 596, anythinng else you need, in fact all the details that steve has got to send a payment,
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you can take him to small claims for £25 i think, it helps if you have some form of agreement ie emails stating work you were completing for him, he will have to file or pay.
if he disputes he files and you can both go to court and explain your side
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George what happened when you went to the solicitors mate? Nothing they can do?
as he was ltd theysaid i could take it further, but would cost me more and still without quarantees,
That's no good is it. Have you spoken to any debt collection companies about it to see if they can do anything about it? Proper ones i mean not ones that just send letters and try and scare you. I know a fella from a past business that i had that specialized in commercial debts....all above board.
Danny
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you can take him to small claims for £25 i think, it helps if you have some form of agreement ie emails stating work you were completing for him, he will have to file or pay.
if he disputes he files and you can both go to court and explain your side
that may be the way to go, but as his company was ltd and hes now not i dont think it counts, also i have a lot of personnel stuff going on at the minuite and whilst the money is needed, im needed more for family issues,
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George what happened when you went to the solicitors mate? Nothing they can do?
as he was ltd theysaid i could take it further, but would cost me more and still without quarantees,
That's no good is it. Have you spoken to any debt collection companies about it to see if they can do anything about it? Proper ones i mean not ones that just send letters and try and scare you. I know a fella from a past business that i had that specialized in commercial debts....all above board.
Danny
i know someone on here whos tried this but didnt get anywhere either
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Very strong Comments to put on a forum especially from someone who hides his own contact details.
Not saying what you are saying is true or untrue but in my opinion/experience it might be better to take legal action before stating on an open forum whats happened.
Good luck either way.
We just had one go into Administration for about £1800 >:( - Flackley Ash Hotel - Peasemarsh RYE KENT
nothing to hide rhinoman, i think a few on here know me, however for those that dont
powells window cleaners
128 ashland rd west
sutton in ashfield
notts
ng17 2hs office no 01623 554926
mobile 07813 540 596, anythinng else you need, in fact all the details that steve has got to send a payment,
Hope it all gets sorted out - all businesses need paying for work done.
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Very strong Comments to put on a forum especially from someone who hides his own contact details.
Not saying what you are saying is true or untrue but in my opinion/experience it might be better to take legal action before stating on an open forum whats happened.
Good luck either way.
We just had one go into Administration for about £1800 >:( - Flackley Ash Hotel - Peasemarsh RYE KENT
nothing to hide rhinoman, i think a few on here know me, however for those that dont
powells window cleaners
128 ashland rd west
sutton in ashfield
notts
ng17 2hs office no 01623 554926
mobile 07813 540 596, anythinng else you need, in fact all the details that steve has got to send a payment,
Hope it all gets sorted out - all businesses need paying for work done.
cheers rhinoman,
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I think you have a couple options here.
1, Take him to small claims court. They cannot make him pay though. The best outcome here would probably be a judgment against his company, if his company is profitable then this will cause him problems.
2, Sell the debt. There are loads of companies out there that will buy the debt. This may be the way to go if you have already given up on receiving any payment, at least you will get something and know he will be getting mithered constantly for payment. Some companies will chase for payment quite "aggressively" if that is what you wanted.
I hope you get this sorted whichever route you choose.
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George what happened when you went to the solicitors mate? Nothing they can do?
as he was ltd theysaid i could take it further, but would cost me more and still without quarantees,
That's no good is it. Have you spoken to any debt collection companies about it to see if they can do anything about it? Proper ones i mean not ones that just send letters and try and scare you. I know a fella from a past business that i had that specialized in commercial debts....all above board.
Danny
i know someone on here whos tried this but didnt get anywhere either
Gutted for you mate. I know what i would do but you aren't me and i'm not you. What was his excuse for not paying by the way?
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Im sure that if you take out a claim against him like ronnie said and he does not answer to this claim he can get a ccj against him or or his company. From that it can go to the high court if unpaid. Not 100% on that though
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plus their is a sandwich/snack van site aswell but i can't find it.
Paul
Found it snackhub.co.uk (http://snackhub.co.uk) good luck getting your money mate this web address is registered to the same address as the design web address ;) ;)
Paul
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and you may get a "first charge" on his house,which i think means when he sells after the mortgage company your next inline
i would do some digging on this
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plus their is a sandwich/snack van site aswell but i can't find it.
Paul
Found it snackhub.co.uk (http://snackhub.co.uk) good luck getting your money mate this web address is registered to the same address as the design web address ;) ;)
Paul
do you have blood hound DNA ;D
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plus their is a sandwich/snack van site aswell but i can't find it.
Paul
Found it snackhub.co.uk (http://snackhub.co.uk) good luck getting your money mate this web address is registered to the same address as the design web address ;) ;)
Paul
do you have blood hound DNA ;D
Just a good memory he was on here last year saying about it ;D ;D
Paul
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I was about to post something then remembered some proverb along the lines of only a fool wades into a fight he knows nothing about.
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I was about to post something then remembered some proverb along the lines of only a fool wades into a fight he knows nothing about.
But I know if i was in his position i would hope the people that could help with info would do so to help recover a payment.
It seems its been done to a few others on here too.
Paul
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Bad patter hope you get sorted.i wonder if hes seen this thread the twat.
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on here it steve cm from
ClearMagic
give him a house call.
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It's understandable there's upset when you don't get paid. I've been knocked by contractors too, but don't please don't go posting their addresses on the interweb.
I'm all for naming and shaming, but no addresses; I don't think that's British. You can always swap them via e-mails I guess, but just not on the open forum.
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If you are limited then it is public knowledge
All can be found here for free, use it to check out your suppliers
www.duedil.com
Clear Magic Cleaning Ltd were dissolved back in November. How old is your debt George?
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Can't see him paying you
George tbh it's terrible ,
He should be holding his head in
Shame over this the worm ???
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If hes LTD the debt will be with the company not him.. i doubt youd get anything from him directly now he is a sole trader. Completely different even though its him. companies go bust all the time and then start up again
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It's understandable there's upset when you don't get paid. I've been knocked by contractors too, but don't please don't go posting their addresses on the interweb.
I'm all for naming and shaming, but no addresses; I don't think that's British. You can always swap them via e-mails I guess, but just not on the open forum.
to late now.
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steve was full of promises he never kept he still owes me money
but i belive what comes around goes around
yes he was crafty wanted everything invoiced to hes ltd company
look what happening to mark griffiths of (clearview or marks window clean ) gone of the face of the earth lol
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Yes remember him john
Shrewsbury kiddie???
He never stiched me though
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What is happening to Clearview
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What is happening to Clearview
this mark had the same work as steve off arl both never paid
i think its a different clearview this going back 3 years ago
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What is happening to Clearview
this mark had the same work as steve off arl both never paid
i think its a different clearview this going back 3 years ago
We took a look at ARL - did some work for them - thought that there prices were way too low - pre 1902 prices and told them where to go................
We just left them to get on with it.
I used to clean Abbey National shops in 2000 for £15 per week! Now I think they are £2 ???
Good luck to them - subbing it all out - great way to earn money for doing very little.
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What is happening to Clearview
this mark had the same work as steve off arl both never paid
i think its a different clearview this going back 3 years ago
mark griffiths/vaz runs ace windows now and does oven cleaning apparently.
Did you ever get paid off him john?
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Did Clear Magic go into liquidation or had the company just been dissolved?
Andy
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Did Clear Magic go into liquidation or had the company just been dissolved?
Andy
dissolved
but still has website running
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To get clear magic appear you need to say abracadabra it's magic ;D ;D
or if you phone asking for money he diappears :D :D
Paul
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What is happening to Clearview
this mark had the same work as steve off arl both never paid
i think its a different clearview this going back 3 years ago
mark griffiths/vaz runs ace windows now and does oven cleaning apparently.
Did you ever get paid off him john?
no never got paid cost me a lot of money trying to chase him though
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To get clear magic appear you need to say abracadabra it's magic ;D ;D
or if you phone asking for money he diappears :D :D
Paul
yes he just changes his phone number and deletes you as friends on facebook and linken lol
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What is happening to Clearview
this mark had the same work as steve off arl both never paid
i think its a different clearview this going back 3 years ago
mark griffiths/vaz runs ace windows now and does oven cleaning apparently.
Did you ever get paid off him john?
no never got paid cost me a lot of money trying to chase him though
How come you can't get anything off him?
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had a debt collection company he know how to p them of and got to a stage when they wanted to close him down cost me up front £1200 but no garantee i will be paid
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had a debt collection company he know how to p them of and got to a stage when they wanted to close him down cost me up front £1200 but no garantee i will be paid
Couldn't you get him in court and get the sheriff onto him,they wont take no for a answer
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had a debt collection company he know how to p them of and got to a stage when they wanted to close him down cost me up front £1200 but no garantee i will be paid
Couldn't you get him in court and get the sheriff onto him,they wont take no for a answer
i dont know tbh im sick of chasing him
he got chased out of leicester by 3 of my guys lol
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had a debt collection company he know how to p them of and got to a stage when they wanted to close him down cost me up front £1200 but no garantee i will be paid
Couldn't you get him in court and get the sheriff onto him,they wont take no for a answer
i dont know tbh im sick of chasing him
he got chased out of leicester by 3 of my guys lol
thats good to hear,shame they never caught him,you should buy one of his groupons,lol
do a matthew alwright on him!
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had a debt collection company he know how to p them of and got to a stage when they wanted to close him down cost me up front £1200 but no garantee i will be paid
Couldn't you get him in court and get the sheriff onto him,they wont take no for a answer
i dont know tbh im sick of chasing him
he got chased out of leicester by 3 of my guys lol
i was tempted lol
thats good to hear,shame they never caught him,you should buy one of his groupons,lol
do a matthew alwright on him!
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It's sad because he seemed like a genuine nice guy... Guess you can't trust anyone these days :-(
I spoke to him a few times on MSN and it seems as though he just borrowed borrowed and borrowed money in order to get more vans on the road and become "big". He had a flash unit / office to?
Perhaps he borrowed too much and got in to financial trouble? Not that that's an excuse of course.
Andy
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It's sad because he seemed like a genuine nice guy... Guess you can't trust anyone these days :-(
I spoke to him a few times on MSN and it seems as though he just borrowed borrowed and borrowed money in order to get more vans on the road and become "big". He had a flash unit / office to?
Perhaps he borrowed too much and got in to financial trouble? Not that that's an excuse of course.
Bet hes still working but doesnt want to pay his debts.dont know how these people sleep at night.
Andy
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is this the same clear magic that has black and green as company colours and has about 3 vans ?
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is this the same clear magic that has black and green as company colours and has about 3 vans ?
yes it is
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on here it steve cm from
ClearMagic
MOD NOTE:
PLEASE DON'T PUT OTHER MEMBERS ADDRESS DETAILS ON T'INTERWEB. HE MAY HAVE IT ON A WEBSITE, HE MAY STICK IT UP ON THIS FORUM, BUT PLEASE, YOU DO NOT.
THANKYOU.
hi mods,
i havent put up his address any where, the address i put up was my own address not steves, cant see anyone else has eiother unless ive missed something,
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That's shocking mate,
I know you're due a payment from me but that's disgusting 4.5k. :-o
dean your payment has never been a problem mate, and im not one for posting about things like this in general, but steves a bit differant, i dont want anyone else getting caught out like a few of us have with him,
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If he has gone bankrupt or even entered an IVA he will have had to declare all his creditors. If you were not included you can write to him and request you are listed as one. If he was LTD at the time he will have limited liability. If any of the work was completed after bankruptcy or not being limited he is personally responsible. However, if he is now bankrupt or in an IVA ypu can either declare an interest or drop it. Either way legally it will be up to his Insolvency Advisor who will assess what you receive.
Selling the debt may be a solution but as far as I am aware a bankrupt or IVA can't be touched without the Insolvency Advisors green light.
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In these situations, I believe you are only one of two types of people.
1. You go and get your money. >:(
2. You suck it up :'(
It seems from your opening post that you already know which one you are.
For the record, mate, there's no shame in it, just keep moving forward, and don't waste another breath on these losers. An expensive lesson, but I am sure you will never let something like this happen again.
Your the better man for it.
Brad.
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thanks for all the replys guys, i know im not likely to get my money but i do feel better knowing that the more people that know the less will deal with him, also if any newbies come on they are less likely to deal with him,
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thanks for all the replys guys, i know im not likely to get my money but i do feel better knowing that the more people that know the less will deal with him, also if any newbies come on they are less likely to deal with him,
Have you registered your interest in recouping your loss?
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not yet, i will right to him and try and get a response to see if i was named as a creditor and see from there,
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You should have recieved a letter from the Administrator (if there was one) who will ask for copies of all invoices outstanding.
Were just filling in one now...........
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You should have recieved a letter from the Administrator (if there was one) who will ask for copies of all invoices outstanding.
Were just filling in one now...........
i know mate, but if he hasnt put us down then they wouldnt know,
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has steve been on here to explain himself or has he dissappeared "just like that" abracadabra ... its magic.
remember him slagging summit I had said or done ... at least I pay my bills
scumbag indeed
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To be fair if he has gone bankrupt his head will be all over the place. So a letter with photocopies of your invoices will get things started. Send it by registered post so it gets signed etc.
If his life has not missed a beat then he deserves all he gets!
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has steve been on here to explain himself or has he dissappeared "just like that" abracadabra ... its magic.
remember him slagging summit I had said or done ... at least I pay my bills
scumbag indeed
dont know what he slagged you off for, but he seems to have dissapeared, at least from this site,from this site
To be fair if he has gone bankrupt his head will be all over the place. So a letter with photocopies of your invoices will get things started. Send it by registered post so it gets signed etc.
If his life has not missed a beat then he deserves all he gets!
phone call after phone call and he was offered many chances to pay, i even asked him if he was struggling to pay we could work something out and pay a bit at a time, but still no joy, even though he must have known he was going bankrupt he still couldnt be honest with me,
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on here it steve cm from
ClearMagic
MOD NOTE:
PLEASE DON'T PUT OTHER MEMBERS ADDRESS DETAILS ON T'INTERWEB. HE MAY HAVE IT ON A WEBSITE, HE MAY STICK IT UP ON THIS FORUM, BUT PLEASE, YOU DO NOT.
THANKYOU.
hi mods,
i havent put up his address any where, the address i put up was my own address not steves, cant see anyone else has eiother unless ive missed something,
Mod note: Apologies; I'm a Geordie. Just ignore me.
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Hi George
Did you provide invoices on time with all the correct signatures ?.
Has Steve communicated to you, why he isn't paying you ?.
His he disputing your invoices or has he just simply ignored them ?.
Hi David,
There was some sign offs missing due to the fact i was loooking after my father at the time and was spending nearly every waking hour with him, so i suggested that he didnt pay me for the ones he hadnt got as although i knew they were done i accept he and arl didnt have proof that they were done,(not that many) and to make me an offer off of what he owes me, promised to get out the paper work and make me an offer - never materialised,
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on here it steve cm from
ClearMagic
MOD NOTE:
PLEASE DON'T PUT OTHER MEMBERS ADDRESS DETAILS ON T'INTERWEB. HE MAY HAVE IT ON A WEBSITE, HE MAY STICK IT UP ON THIS FORUM, BUT PLEASE, YOU DO NOT.
THANKYOU.
hi mods,
i havent put up his address any where, the address i put up was my own address not steves, cant see anyone else has eiother unless ive missed something,
Mod note: Apologies; I'm a Geordie. Just ignore me.
forgiven :)
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Have you checked that he has gone bankrupt?
Or are you assuming?
If he is Bankrupt find out and contact the administration who is dealing with it.
At least you can claim it as a loss.
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sure ive heard hes bankrupt the ltd company and now trading as not ltd, will need to try and find out for sure,
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George not being negative
but dont ARL penalise for late sheets
missing sheets etc ????
i know they have fined a few window cleaners
for late periodicals etc
:'(
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George not being negative
but dont ARL penalise for late sheets
missing sheets etc ????
i know they have fined a few window cleaners
for late periodicals etc
:'(
yes they do, and as i accepted that was my fault i asked him to take off anything he had been fined for and anything he hadnt been paid for and make me a settlement fiqure, which he said he would do, unfortunatly he was fibbing
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Have you checked that he has gone bankrupt?
Or are you assuming?
If he is Bankrupt find out and contact the administration who is dealing with it.
At least you can claim it as a loss.
dissolved - co number 07605800
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//companysearch?disp=1&frfsh=1362602160&#result