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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: wayne zabel on March 01, 2013, 06:04:26 pm

Title: Google listings.
Post by: wayne zabel on March 01, 2013, 06:04:26 pm
Im always about 3rd to 4th top on page 1 of Google through natural sources.The ones above me are paying I presume.Is this called sponsored links?

The companies above me are not always the same and will differ at various times of the day from hour to hour.

My question is when you are paying for these listings are you told that you wont always appear all the time?It all seems a bit random.

Basically how does this work,if 5 or 6 are paying they cant always be at the top.

Im a bit of a dinosaur about thhses things.
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: Fran84 on March 01, 2013, 06:08:06 pm
Wayne,
 
You are number one for 'bury carpet cleaning' and 'bury carpet cleaners'.

The one above you in the orange are all sponsored 'paid' listings.

You can't get a better placing for organic 'without paying' listings.

Fran
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: wayne zabel on March 01, 2013, 06:14:50 pm
Its when you put in say Carpet cleaners/ing in Bury that it drops down at touch.I dont want to start paying its just that Im a bit curious as to the changes of companies who are above me.They change from hour to hour.Just wondering why this happens,if you pay more do you appear more?
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: CraigHaycock on March 01, 2013, 06:16:01 pm
It's all based on highest bids for the top position, you can set a fiqure of how much you want to spend each month or day, and most of the time you will end up on the right hand side of page, but you can also set a price for how much you want to pay for someone to click on your ad which can sometimes be up to £30 per click and if your bid is highest you will end up as the 1st sponsored listing. my opinion its a total waste of money. I spent over £80 in 3 days and did not get 1 enquiry not 1, so stopped it straight away.
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: Fran84 on March 01, 2013, 06:16:43 pm
Basically there is a lot behind it.

Best person to explain is Ash White.

Do you have someone to take care of your SEO?
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: wayne zabel on March 01, 2013, 06:26:42 pm
Its all done by the guy who designed my site.I have been on P1 for almost 3 years now.
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: garry22 on March 01, 2013, 06:35:10 pm
Wayne.

Positions in the paid ads can vary as some companies will vary their bid prices or even switch the ads off at various times of the day.
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: Paul Moss on March 01, 2013, 07:46:13 pm
Is it just me or has the internet slowed of late, in terms of calls
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: james roffey on March 01, 2013, 11:04:42 pm
Is it just me or has the internet slowed of late, in terms of calls

It's just you Paul ;D

No it's not i have noticed it slowing over the last few weeks too
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: Paul Moss on March 01, 2013, 11:06:47 pm
Thank god you answered James, i also thought i had  major salelite delay also on the internet  :D
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: AshWhite on March 01, 2013, 11:11:58 pm
Wayne, when someone creates an Adwords campaign, they specify which keywords or phrases they want to be found under, and set their bids accordingly. Their 'quality score' (how relevant their website/ad is to the keyword) and maximum bid will have an effect on how high they rank for a term - so one company could rank higher for 'carpet cleaners bury', while another might rank higher for 'bury carpet cleaners'.
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: AshWhite on March 01, 2013, 11:14:37 pm
It's all based on highest bids for the top position, you can set a fiqure of how much you want to spend each month or day, and most of the time you will end up on the right hand side of page, but you can also set a price for how much you want to pay for someone to click on your ad which can sometimes be up to £30 per click and if your bid is highest you will end up as the 1st sponsored listing. my opinion its a total waste of money. I spent over £80 in 3 days and did not get 1 enquiry not 1, so stopped it straight away.

Craig, your website is VERY text heavy - it might be my tired eyes, but I found it quite difficult to read. My first inclination was to close it down almost immediately. Do you have analytics to see what happens when people land on your page, or does it perform well otherwise?

I can categorically say that Adwords is not a waste of money - but it's easy to waste money on it ;)
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: CraigHaycock on March 01, 2013, 11:28:25 pm
Hi Ash, yeah I know, ive tried cutting it back but end up adding more, trouble is I have done website totally by myself got good rankings for most areas i work and bit worried about removing some of the text as don't want to be deranked by google, I have been climbing every week. Also problem is that i'm seeing it from my view and not the searchers view.
Got analytics and the bounce rate is low, page views are good, except the worst being, believe it or not reviews & before after photos.
I get the calls through organic searches but never from adwords, strange. (its probably the competition clicking on it to use up my budget)
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: AshWhite on March 01, 2013, 11:31:39 pm
Competition clicks is not as much of a problem as you'd expect (Google is quite good at detecting invalid clicks). £80 in 3 days is a LOT of money - most of the campaigns I deal with (for CC'ing) are based on less than £10/day (sometimes less than half that, but it depends how much you want to spend of course).
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: Barry Livingstone on March 02, 2013, 01:11:48 am
Paul in Jan one of my sites was down 20% on hits from Jan 2012 but its better ranked now.
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: Mike Halliday on March 02, 2013, 07:28:55 am
I was spending £40 a month showing 8am-8pm within a 15 mile radias average clicks Was 30
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: cleantech on March 03, 2013, 01:33:47 pm
I am top of the list on google, for the search phrases i choose. cost: 120 for 38 days
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: davep on March 03, 2013, 01:35:17 pm
But for how many phrases?
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: AshWhite on March 03, 2013, 01:37:24 pm
And what phrases, over what area?

'Carpet cleaners' and 'carpet cleaners in placename' are 2 very different things.
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: cleantech on March 03, 2013, 10:06:17 pm
I have a choice of 5. Granted i am located in southern Ireland
Title: Re: Google listings.
Post by: davep on March 03, 2013, 10:07:23 pm
What about the other 100's of phrases  ???