Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: andy east sussex on February 28, 2013, 05:46:29 pm
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got to first job then realised top floor flat no lift just stairs so got ninja up okish done job packing away taking machinedown stairs next min misses fing step smashes me in knee knee locked out now f knows what ive done to it but can hardly walk think time to invest in truck mount. i cant afford to pay someone just to come along to lift machine so very worrying now anyone else had this issue
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and also customer had 6ft x 6ft chinese wool rug bloody massive maybe bigger alot of money she said could i do it i said ye but i asked have you had a quote to have this cleaned she said yes 6 months ago for £35 so i left her with it i aint touching it for that money
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Andy, do you have a rotary so you could bonnet? if the access is bad and its a carpet that would come up on the bonnet thats always an option
I always ask about the access - most customers are ok with me going out to do a quote so i can suss it for myself but on the ones that i don't experience has taught me to ask the right questions so there are no hidden surprises!!
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Simon Gerrard is doing a good deal on one! ;D
or give these guys a bell http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/GP-Cleaners-Limited/442773379124582?fref=ts
they got a few 2nd hand ones, really good services as well! ;D
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If I'm unsure about access or anything I usually
Google map it and go to street level to check it
out.
In fact I bet I do it for 80% of the jobs I do now.
Even if you know the street it's good to have a
quick shufti and if you see anything awkward you
can always ring them to find out.
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ye normanlly when then mention flat i ask which floor they are on so i book flats in for 1 day and get help and if its the only flat i normanly ask is there anyone at the property which could help lift it but totally forgot to do it on this job and i paid the price luckyly the customer afterwards were understandable so they just moved their bookings forward but if they didnt would of lost even more
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How would you imagine that using a t/m would overcome slipping on a stair or similar ?
Moving heavy hoses is no easier than walking a machine downstairs and the suggestion that you use a rotary for flats is not only a heck of a lot less expensive but less wearing on the body.
There is also the other option of using a small, compact extraction machine for flats, I don't mean a lightweight like the Puzzi or similar. There are a few small but powerful machines available perfectly capable of doing an excellent job and your investment would be returned a couple of weeks rather than a couple of years if you went t/m.
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I also Google map must of my jobs or do a drive by.
Have a look at the Alltec Express machine / Airflex mini ideal for flats
Richard
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How would you imagine that using a t/m would overcome slipping on a stair or similar ?
Moving heavy hoses is no easier than walking a machine downstairs and the suggestion that you use a rotary for flats is not only a heck of a lot less expensive but less wearing on the body.
This is a troll, surely. You cannot be serious. All I carry upstairs is a bit of string & the wand, etc. (it's a TM)
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anybody who has never used a truckmount uses access and setting up as an excuse not to have one, but even in most appartment blocks it is still easier than taking up and setting up a portable. There is only an extra 10 ft of hose per floor so there really is nt a weight issue on the hose. I loathe having to take the portable out on t6he 1 or 2 occasion a year I may need to. We do not have to fetch and carry water it is just so much quicker.
Peter
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How would you imagine that using a t/m would overcome slipping on a stair or similar ?
Moving heavy hoses is no easier than walking a machine downstairs and the suggestion that you use a rotary for flats is not only a heck of a lot less expensive but less wearing on the body.
This is a troll, surely. You cannot be serious. All I carry upstairs is a bit of string & the wand, etc. (it's a TM)
calm down with the troll comment. Robert has been on this forum alot longer than you.
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Where possible upto 4th floor, throw a rope out of the most suitable window, or better, french doors. Tie your hose to it and then pull the hose up and secure it. Use a remote or extension for power.
No theft to worry about as the clue will be fairly instant :o
Simples ;D
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I've humped porties up so many flights of stairs and even across roofs..... :o
The answer is to get a LM system.texatherm or similar.
Save on your back and legs.
OR....
You can fork out 20k plus on a TM system, for those occasions when you might need one.
;D
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Pick up a airflex mini twin vac about £800 second hand very light with good stair climbing wheels
I've seen pictures of guys with hoses going up to flats wonder how they would stand if a hose fell and hit someone
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Pick up a airflex mini twin vac about £800 second hand very light with good stair climbing wheels
I've seen pictures of guys with hoses going up to flats wonder how they would stand if a hose fell and hit someone
Well, they would be in trouble ;D
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How would you imagine that using a t/m would overcome slipping on a stair or similar ?
Moving heavy hoses is no easier than walking a machine downstairs and the suggestion that you use a rotary for flats is not only a heck of a lot less expensive but less wearing on the body.
There is also the other option of using a small, compact extraction machine for flats, I don't mean a lightweight like the Puzzi or similar. There are a few small but powerful machines available perfectly capable of doing an excellent job and your investment would be returned a couple of weeks rather than a couple of years if you went t/m.
Obviously you could slip by merely walking up / down stairs but more likely it will happen when moving a heavy portable up & down them. As for moving heavy hoses is no easier than walking a machine downstairs........that part of your comment had me laughing. What hoses do you use or know of that are as heavy or as awkward as moving a heavy portable down some stairs????? Those comments typically sound like someone trying hard to make excuses up for not having a truckmount.
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I use a sling made from a seat belt for my ninja pop it over your shoulder and up you go no probs, always wheel it down stairs though could easily get off ballance. A chap who owns ninjas 5 of them and who wont use anything else bought a stair climber off e bay for 90.00 uses it all the time bit slow but no strain up or down.
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i know it would add more weight and size to the portables but like some sack barrow wheels they have 3 wheels to climb they would be a good idea in a way but had to take today off also as knee still aches abit just swollen and 2 wacking great bruses lucky wernt any worse this only trouble beine self employed once you hurt ur self you are screwed
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Main things is you were not badly hurt.
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ye thank christ. there isnt any insurance out there is there for us self employed guys so if we have injury were coverd or are we just on our own basically
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We use a truckmount, but i still find it easier in blocks of flats to take the sabrina maxi up than run up and down the stairs several times. and certainly easier than lugging all the hoses up.
You can carry the maxi's up in your arms but there still good enough to do small flats etc
Steve
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ye thank christ. there isnt any insurance out there is there for us self employed guys so if we have injury were coverd or are we just on our own basically
You can get insurance for personal injury, its called Permanent Health Insurance (PHI).
Its not cheap though, costs vary according to when the payout would start fro being unable to work, usual minimum periods are 4, 8, 13, 26, 51 or 104 weeks. Obviously if it is to start paying out after only(?) 4 weeks disability it would be very expensive, but payments continue assuming continued disability until a selected retirement age.
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Pick up a airflex mini twin vac about £800 second hand very light with good stair climbing wheels
I've seen pictures of guys with hoses going up to flats wonder how they would stand if a hose fell and hit someone
I recently bought a Airflex mini twin vac as a 2nd machine (weighs only 28Kg) great for doing small jobs, bedrooms, flats etc.... have used it 5 or 6 times now and think it's an excellent little machine, great when I don't want to use my other machine (Airflex Pro 600).
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Dropped my powermax while half way up some stairs once,it also had 30ltr of solution in it at the time.
Bought extra hoses when I got home that afternoon, ::)roll
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Dropped my powermax while half way up some stairs once,it also had 30ltr of solution in it at the time.
Bought extra hoses when I got home that afternoon, ::)roll
You took your machine FULL OF WATER up a stair case!!!??!?! You fill it before you move it Mark.
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I feel for you Andy, quite regularly have to climb 5/6 flights of stairs for flats in Hastings/Warrior Square area, takes me abit of time to lump it up there as in have to have a breather after each flight lol.
Take your time and lots of energy drink i find works well though, i know its not good for you but neck 3 cans of a high energy drink and see you fly up those stairs with it on top of your head ;D
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Sooooooo easy to upset the t/m brigade by stating something they don't want to hear, eg, that hoses are heavy and awkward to carry up and down stairs,
I've done the " pull em up and hang em out the windows bit " and the only damage I ever caused in thirty years was to a window frame caused by hose friction.
Just to clarify"..........I would not subscribe to hauling a heavy portable up stairs as there are other options. One would be to use a smaller portable for flats another would be to use a rotary which many are now doing.
Why would anyone argue that twenty five or fifty foot lengths of hose is not awkward and heavy ?
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Even when we used a porty we'd drop a bit of cord out of a window. The only hose we ever carry up is a 3m whip. With a TM you can go higher, but around here that's not an issue.
To think TM operators are struggling with "heavy hoses" is self deluding.
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Ive had TM for 7 years and I still struggle with the hoses up and down the stairs ;D
Its a fact they are alot heavier and cumbersome than portable hoses !
Steve
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anybody who has never used a truckmount uses access and setting up as an excuse not to have one, but even in most appartment blocks it is still easier than taking up and setting up a portable. There is only an extra 10 ft of hose per floor so there really is nt a weight issue on the hose. I loathe having to take the portable out on t6he 1 or 2 occasion a year I may need to. We do not have to fetch and carry water it is just so much quicker.
Peter
There are 10000 apartments in Manchester City Centre, if you wanted to work here you would have to get a portable. You cant even park outside most of them and even if you could you would have to prop open half a dozen security doors, which i'm sure would be a no no with most concierge. You can only hang your hose out of the window if the flat is overlooking the road and most of the time they dont.
Dont get me wrong I would love a truckmount, but I would still have to get the portable out at least once or twice a week.