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Title: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: PAUL ERITH on February 26, 2013, 03:45:08 pm
Hi

Just wondered what everyone else does regarding risk assessments for residential window cleaning.

Do you do one for each residential job
A general one for residential window cleaning
Do you just not see the point.

Regards Paul
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: Steve Sed on February 26, 2013, 03:50:05 pm
Is this a serious question?
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: deeege on February 26, 2013, 04:01:18 pm
Yes.

A seperate risk assessment and method statement for each residential job. I bundle it up and include in the bundle my liability insurance, employees liability, proof of insurance of property worked upon, crb certificate, cscs number for each employee, driving license, birth certificate and national insurance number.

Can never be too careful these days.
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: SunShineCleaning on February 26, 2013, 05:29:15 pm
Do you employ more than 5 people? If yes then you do. If not then you are not required to but it is good practice to have  a generic one available. 

Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: deeege on February 26, 2013, 05:58:51 pm
Yes.

A seperate risk assessment and method statement for each residential job. I bundle it up and include in the bundle my liability insurance, employees liability, proof of insurance of property worked upon, crb certificate, cscs number for each employee, driving license, birth certificate and national insurance number.

Can never be too careful these days.

  ::)roll


 ;D
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: CleanClear on February 26, 2013, 07:24:58 pm
Do you employ more than 5 people? If yes then you do. If not then you are not required to but it is good practice to have  a generic one available. 



How does a generic risk assesment suffice ? I can't see as it does. You may as well not do one.
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: bobplum on February 26, 2013, 07:34:18 pm
Hi

Just wondered what everyone else does regarding risk assessments for residential window cleaning.

Do you do one for each residential job
A general one for residential window cleaning
Do you just not see the point.

Regards Paul

firstly i think this is over kill
secondly surely the environment around a residential property can in most cases be quite fluid in that it is or can be changing all the time..so do you do a R/A  every time you pull up to a house (fill in a form?)
thirdly,surely common-sense  is your risk assessment,you see a problem you adapt to it
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: SunShineCleaning on February 26, 2013, 07:42:54 pm
Hi

Just wondered what everyone else does regarding risk assessments for residential window cleaning.

Do you do one for each residential job
A general one for residential window cleaning
Do you just not see the point.

Regards Paul

firstly i think this is over kill
secondly surely the environment around a residential property can in most cases be quite fluid in that it is or can be changing all the time..so do you do a R/A  every time you pull up to a house (fill in a form?)
thirdly,surely common-sense  is your risk assessment,you see a problem you adapt to it

Your generic RAMS has your basic policy plus the phrase "A dynamic Risk Assessment is performed before commencing any work"

This means you stop and look and see what may be a risk and adapt accordingly.
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: richard jagger on February 26, 2013, 08:41:54 pm
It has just taken me 3 week to asses my round in total for my insurance.I can get a discount because I have done this individually.
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: dazmond on February 26, 2013, 08:51:28 pm
i use "common sense". ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: SunShineCleaning on February 26, 2013, 09:03:22 pm
It has just taken me 3 week to asses my round in total for my insurance.I can get a discount because I have done this individually.

Who are you with?
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: DG Cleaning on February 26, 2013, 09:48:51 pm
What is the world coming to?  ;D
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: bobplum on February 26, 2013, 10:29:55 pm
It has just taken me 3 week to asses my round in total for my insurance.I can get a discount because I have done this individually.

did the insurance company ask for this
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: James archell on February 26, 2013, 11:52:05 pm
On a mental basis yes. Im sure we all do to a degree we just dont write it all down.
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on February 27, 2013, 01:17:16 am
Hahaha a risk assessment to put some soap on some windows?? Get a grip, you don't re fuel aircraft!  ;D
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: formb on February 27, 2013, 06:54:38 am
Our quote form has a risk assessment. When we price a house a risk assessment is done and filed. It takes only a couple of minutes to complete. Basically looking for hazards evaluating them (something common sense would have you do anyway) but also writing it down.

Accidents happen. The point or a risk assessment is to reduce the chances of an accident and the severity if/when something goes wrong.

It is not difficult.
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: Steve Sed on February 27, 2013, 07:20:58 am
Our quote form has a risk assessment. When we price a house a risk assessment is done and filed. It takes only a couple of minutes to complete. Basically looking for hazards evaluating them (something common sense would have you do anyway) but also writing it down.

Accidents happen. The point or a risk assessment is to reduce the chances of an accident and the severity if/when something goes wrong.

It is not difficult.
You employ 3,000,000 Highland marauders. You need to.  ;D
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: Neil Gornall on February 27, 2013, 07:53:48 am
It has just taken me 3 week to asses my round in total for my insurance.I can get a discount because I have done this individually.

I would hope the discount is equivalent to the loss of time/earnings spend assessing an entire round over 3 weeks.

I would bet the time would have been more profitable spent cleaning a few windows.

Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: Steve Sed on February 27, 2013, 08:22:31 am
It has just taken me 3 week to asses my round in total for my insurance.I can get a discount because I have done this individually.

I would hope the discount is equivalent to the loss of time/earnings spend assessing an entire round over 3 weeks.

I would bet the time would have been more profitable spent cleaning a few windows.


;D
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: formb on February 27, 2013, 08:46:36 am
It has just taken me 3 week to asses my round in total for my insurance.I can get a discount because I have done this individually.

I would hope the discount is equivalent to the loss of time/earnings spend assessing an entire round over 3 weeks.

I would bet the time would have been more profitable spent cleaning a few windows.



It's going to take more than cleaning a few windows to cover the cost of a law suit if there is an accident and he gets sued for not having done risk assessments.
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: PAUL ERITH on February 27, 2013, 08:55:29 am
It has just taken me 3 week to asses my round in total for my insurance.I can get a discount because I have done this individually.

I would hope the discount is equivalent to the loss of time/earnings spend assessing an entire round over 3 weeks.

I would bet the time would have been more profitable spent cleaning a few windows.



It's going to take more than cleaning a few windows to cover the cost of a law suit if there is an accident and he gets sued for not having done risk assessments.

Very true and to be honest it's not that hard I'm going to do one for every residential job and what I have done is setup a templates for each popular house type then just change the address date then sign, most house types of a similar nature have the same hazards.

Paul
Title: Re: Do you do separate risk assessments for each residential job ?
Post by: G Griffin on February 27, 2013, 09:07:18 am
Hahaha a risk assessment to put some soap on some windows?? Get a grip, you don't re fuel aircraft!  ;D

I used to but never used a risk assessment. I just used to wing it; it was all plane sailing.