Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Frankybadboy on February 21, 2013, 07:33:07 pm
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just like to say a big thanks to john and his team of professional canvasser for getting me a set amount of residential new work,
has you know john is a national contractor who is now turning to other window cleaning businesses ideas.so as a bit of a guniea pig john ask if,i would like his team to go out and get me a new set amount off work.he wanted to see how his new staff would work and wanted my fed back on how i got on with the team leader,and what the work is like,(just started the 1st cleans)so need to give fed back over the next few wks
it nice to know that someone can see a opening and got the balls todo it.i know john and his team will work to the highest of standards,has it the only way he know.and i also know that this will go from strenght to strenght
thanks john
ps the wfp shop looks nice
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good stuff franky and john, well done, now I wait the doom replies :D
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What opening is that Franky?
Canvassing is not reinventing the wheel is it, or am I missing something here?
Art
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What opening is that Franky?
Canvassing is not reinventing the wheel is it, or am I missing something here?
Art
after talking to john and his guys,they are hoping to roll this out over the country.but a more professional manner than the ones before.also take it the one step forward.-
building up the work in area then if i got this right then sub out like they do with national contacts,
(dont quote me on that yet,bit more to it than that)
has i said i was a guniea pig for his team so i ve done well ;) ;) ;)
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Top bloke to ;)
Nice one Franky
John will look after ya
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Say what ???
Subbing out residential jobs ???
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What opening is that Franky?
Canvassing is not reinventing the wheel is it, or am I missing something here?
Art
after talking to john and his guys,they are hoping to roll this out over the country.but a more professional manner than the ones before.also take it the one step forward.-
building up the work in area then if i got this right then sub out like they do with national contacts,
(dont quote me on that yet)
has i said i was a guniea pig for his team so i ve done well ;) ;) ;)
Result for you mate.
What I always struggle with is the market is one size, some use us, some do not and some are just crap that gets picked up and then dropped. The ones that use us are generally quite loyal and pass our names on to their friends or we leaflet and call back or are called back, but the customer buys into you then.
This is where I feel canvassing companies will always struggle.
I dont think they could even price cheaply to gain the work as it may be hard to sell, so I don't see them driving down prices.
Time will tell eh?
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Another canvasser its not a new thing.
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Hopefully they will drive up prices and every proper window cleaning business will benefit. Its a gamble? if they canvass a round and then sub it out to a half wit ( if its cheap) then it will come crashing down.
Hopefully they will price to the area. Respect for having a go.
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Is he subbing it to you then Franky? Given it to you for free? Or have you parted with some well earned?
Be nice to know the in's & out's :)
Subbing out across the country?
Look forward to those £5 cleans inside & out then ;D
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A few months ago this firm quoted one of our commercials.
http://www.ukcommercialcleaning.co.uk/
Thankfully they didnt get it, the building manager did not like the fact they were national.
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right johns team got me £500 p/week or £26k a year,i paid him £6750 which is 3months down payments and a extra £2k,if you keep it 12months,after the 12months the price varies but does come down a fair bit,and is worked out on a percentage.
they do and well do spot checks to ensure that the work is being cleaned,
johns team leader/sales guy is a slim barry ;D ;D
looking forward to see how other get on.
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right johns team got me £500 p/week or £26k a year,i paid him £6750 which is 3months down payments and a extra £2k,if you keep it 12months,after the 12months the price varies but does come down a fair bit,and is worked out on a percentage.
they do and well do spot checks to ensure that the work is being cleaned,
johns team leader/sales guy is a slim barry ;D ;D
looking forward to see how other get on.
Guinea pig you said, customer @ £6750 I'd say.
Art
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Seems fair price Franky
Gud that slim Barry
Iv heard he's in Scotland soon ;D
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right johns team got me £500 p/week or £26k a year,i paid him £6750 which is 3months down payments and a extra £2k,if you keep it 12months,after the 12months the price varies but does come down a fair bit,and is worked out on a percentage.
they do and well do spot checks to ensure that the work is being cleaned,
johns team leader/sales guy is a slim barry ;D ;D
looking forward to see how other get on.
What happens if you start lossing some of the work?
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all work lost is replaced,and you only pay on what you work ;)
art that is what ive paid for.
but believe me in real terms cause johns team was so good ive had a lot more than that ;D ;D
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What a load of tosh!
Im guessing the commercial side is drying up!.
Paying that much to sub work??. 3 cleans plus 2k???. So 4 cleans just to have the work for a year? Are you dizzy or something or have i read it wrong??
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all work lost is replaced,and you only pay on what you work ;)
art that is what ive paid for.
but believe me in real terms cause johns team was so good ive had a lot more than that ;D ;D
Franky, I don't mean to be picky but you have paid more than 3xs the monthly, which is fine as your happy but as a guniea pig for a new venture, it aint no favour in my eyes
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all work lost is replaced,and you only pay on what you work ;)
art that is what ive paid for.
but believe me in real terms cause johns team was so good ive had a lot more than that ;D ;D
Franky, I don't mean to be picky but you have paid more than 3xs the monthly, which is fine as your happy but as a guniea pig for a new venture, it aint no favour in my eyes
No sounds like he has been right shafted!!.
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For 6k when i was canvassing for others id have got you 3k of work 36k a year and be yours for ever not just a year. seriosly i dont like to see people having the p taken out of them. You shouldnt pay anywhere near that much!! Your just making someone else rich for there minimal input of supplying the work.
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He's got a team at his disposal
Read it lad
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Well good luck Frank I hope it works well, not for us thanks.
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all work lost is replaced,and you only pay on what you work ;)
art that is what ive paid for.
but believe me in real terms cause johns team was so good ive had a lot more than that ;D ;D
Franky, I don't mean to be picky but you have paid more than 3xs the monthly, which is fine as your happy but as a guniea pig for a new venture, it aint no favour in my eyes
art thats what i ve paid for.
read above,what i really got is a lot more,cause his team hit a good patch and come away with a lot more. ;)
which i am not paying for the extra,
also in the 2nd year to me only guniea pig,we have a special deal in place.
which dont ask cause i aint going to tell you,but iam more than££££££ up ;) ;)
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For 6k when i was canvassing for others id have got you 3k of work 36k a year and be yours for ever not just a year. seriosly i dont like to see people having the p taken out of them. You shouldnt pay anywhere near that much!! Your just making someone else rich for there minimal input of supplying the work.
if you was that good why you still not doing it??????
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He also as the umbrella of
Chew valley cleaning
Approved window cleaning
And nolans national canvass team
All traceable and above board
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He also as the umbrella of
Chew valley cleaning
Approved window cleaning
And nolans national canvass team
All traceable and above board
Why would you need all that? Who is frank working for himself or that lot?
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CIA I think
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I was and am that good and still get people wanting me to canvass for them now but i refuse to as am fine doing it for myself.
If your happy to pay over 3 cleans to sub work for a year then fair play.
I just dont want to see anyone get burnt mate, you seem a nice guy on here who offers good advice, from what i have read you have paid 3 cleans plus 2k to own the work for just a year??.
All canvassers i know of only charge 2 cleans to own the work? Your paying 4 cleans to borrow borrow the work fo a year. If i have read it wrong then i appologise.
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CIA I think
LOL... Don't get me wrong you must know this lot and are passionate about this John geezer but if its that good why do you need all that support?
and why wont Frank say what terms his secound year deal is?
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Frank as got a very good deal
Around the areas he wanted
The support he chooses to use
As been established in the Bristol
Areas for over 20yrs and excellent
Reputation
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I was and am that good and still get people wanting me to canvass for them now but i refuse to as am fine doing it for myself.
If your happy to pay over 3 cleans to sub work for a year then fair play.
I just dont want to see anyone get burnt mate, you seem a nice guy on here who offers good advice, from what i have read you have paid 3 cleans plus 2k to own the work for just a year??.
All canvassers i know of only charge 2 cleans to own the work? Your paying 4 cleans to borrow borrow the work fo a year. If i have read it wrong then i appologise.
HOPE IT GOES WELL FRANKY. you have taken a gamble and that takes guts or naivety.
But i love mick kents canvassing posts , he tells it for real.
as far as subcontract resi cleaning what the ??? there will be loads of custys left for us , even it should take off. (NWC ETC)
i love a successful entrepreneur , but as soon as they get a man capable of the exact same means cheaper you are dust. 8)
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it was only a few months ago franky when you said you were getting bored of window cleaning and had so much work that you were always behind so why all this?? ??? ???
i just dont understand?why do you need these people promising the earth when you can do very well for yourself on your own?
ive always leafleted and canvassed myself.dont need anybody to build up my business for me.
dazmond
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Perhaps this idea is another twist on a franchise type system who knows hope it works for you :)
BUT SAY AWAY FROM OUR AREAS OR I WILL SET MICK KENT ON YA ;D ;D ;D
Paul
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But if you are a subbie from John, it's his work so isn't VAT going to have to be charged? If so, That's another 20% gone each month. Or have I got it worng.
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Imo you get what you pay for...
Just like the window cleaners on another thread, who charge £15 for a house with 6 windows, you'll pay more for quality!
Unless for some people its ok to charge high prices as long as people dont charge me high prices for what i want.
I for one think its a fantastic idea, especially as the work is coming from one of the most respected window cleaners in the country, not some two bit canvasser, and so you know your dealing with a professional.
I for one will be definatley interested and have already had discussions to move this forward, and the fact theres so many questioning, i think a few are just scared....