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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: david washbrook on February 15, 2013, 10:33:12 pm
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Has anyone got 1 of these or used 1
It has a 30ltr/min flow with a 23hp engine
Are they any good
Are they big and heavy
I'm looking for a very good and very reliable pressure washer one that can handle big jobs but also suite able for the smaller jobs I will also need to load/ unload from the vans as and when needed
Any thoughts about the Honda mentioned or any others
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Lombardini do some good, high hp washers. Check ebay.
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That beast would scare the heck out of me. You're a braver man than I am!
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Why do you say that it looks a great machine to me, but I'd like to know some views on it if anyone has used 1, also wonder how it compares to the zeta maybe rob m could say
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Dave
I have never used one but I have looked at them regularly on Ebay. Because they are petrol - would be the reason why I wouldn't buy the machine.
I would say a solid machine, reliable, could easily be split to twin operator @ 15 LPM.
Dave I have just sold Simon @ Pristine a 30LPM jetter. I think he will say if you are used to 15 - 21LPM and you step up to the bigger flow rate machines you will notice a massive difference and this all adds up to quicker working times.
If you want to chat about budget but you don't want to shout about it on here - give me a ring.
Just had another look at one, £3100.00, surely there will 20% to go on that.
If you are going to spend that amount secondhand will buy you more machine but you may need to mess about a bit.
Rob ;D
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Dave didnt you sell a honda diesel 17lpm before xmas cause you were looking for a smaller machine?
Rob just been playing with it!!!
Sorted exhaust, filter,moved battery higher up, been split for 2 operators and still got a good kick when both in use.
Just need a few more jobs now!!
Shot any dogs yet? >:(
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Great stuff
Still been a bit cautious about it working ok for you. Have you left the twin inlet on it and have you managed to get the tank welded back together.
No dogs shot yet but I am looking for an automatic machine gun for the near future.
No issues with anything with it then?
Rob ;D
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Just leave it set up twin, as long as a lance is connected to both reels there shouldnt be a problem should there?
Not bothered about tank been welded back it aint an issue.
Anyway the rob mclean moneyback guarantee under written by arther daley car sales put my mind at ease!!! :o
Got a few jobs in for next week so I wil let you know..keep the helpline on.
Simon
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Why do you say that it looks a great machine to me,
Sorry to freak you out mate. If you read some of my posts you We'll see I clearly don't Know what I am talking about! ;D
I just meant I wouldn't have a clue what to do with it!
Bvc
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Thanks rob I will prob call you tomorrow or Monday
Yes I did sell a 15ltr / min diesel but it wasn't to buy a smaller machine it was to buy my wheelie bin cleaning set up but due to staff problems and no time for me to do it its getting sold so I will be buying a new pressure washer as I already offer this and do a fair bit yearly, but I want a high spec one and one which is going to last that's why I'm thinking of the Honda gx630 30ltr/min
Rob where did you see the 1 for £3100
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Typed in Honda Pressure washer and scrolled through, first one I saw
Rob ;D
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Dave
Jetmac Systems
271080104066 Item number: Is that cheap?
Rob ;D
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You can get high hp diesel machines for the same money, if not cheaper.
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Rob that's the 1 I've seen tried calling the guy but no answer, how easy is your zeta to get on and off the van
Matt I know but I've always found diesel ones to be a lot heavier and also noisier also I know Honda engines are very reliable
I've had different washers in the past but this time I want to get a new 1 and 1 that will last and do for large and small jobs, hence this time I'm not rushing into anything
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Rob do you think it's bit on the expensive side
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Dave
Just drove to Staines.
My Thor (is bigger than the Zeta) is heavy - 200 kilos but they are on pneumatic tyres and I have two scaffold planks cut in half to push/pull it into the van. I can do it on my own but the last time I slipped on the wet van floor and fell over.
I think you are paying for a similar level machine as the Zeta, I don't think it is much more. You are getting hour clock, Z1 unloader, they are a better put together machine and a lot sturdier.
Its Honda - should be bulletproof and shouldn't let you down - ever but if I was spending three grand I would have a drain jetter and make it suit my purpose. There are a lot of variables, what flow do you want each man to have, how much room have you got, are you leaving it in the van, will you really be pushing the service and expecting daily activity from the machine???
For me bigger is better and I buy for kit to not let me down, when I need it
Rob ;D
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Rob ummmmm I've been thinking very hard about this I will need to get it into and out of the van as it won't be left in there the thor is out of my rice range the zeta is border line but the Honda might be acceptable
Are these heavy machines or can they they be moved around eaisly
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Get the Zeta
We just ordered one at 23 ltr & 250 BARand are going to try the Aquila Hot box we just bought on e-bay - ££££Ouch!
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Get the Zeta
We just ordered one at 23 ltr & 250 BARand are going to try the Aquila Hot box we just bought on e-bay - ££££Ouch!
personally i would of chose a diesel model as it would be a bit less thirsty and also no chance of getting fuel mixed up with the diesel that you will be using in the hotbox
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Rob ummmmm I've been thinking very hard about this I will need to get it into and out of the van as it won't be left in there the thor is out of my rice range the zeta is border line but the Honda might be acceptable
Are these heavy machines or can they they be moved around eaisly
I have my buffer tank mount on a fixed frame against the bulkhead approx 1ft above the floor with a small electric winch fitted underneath so I dont struggle putting the PW in the van
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Get the Zeta
We just ordered one at 23 ltr & 250 BARand are going to try the Aquila Hot box we just bought on e-bay - ££££Ouch!
personally i would of chose a diesel model as it would be a bit less thirsty and also no chance of getting fuel mixed up with the diesel that you will be using in the hotbox
I agree - I will phone this morning and change it for the 30 ltr 200 BAR
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Had a good chat whith rob McLean thanks rob
Rhinoman where are you getting yours from and are you changing it because I've been told they no longer do a diesel 30ltr ite either a petrol 23ltr @ 250bar, petrol 30ltr @ 200 bar or a diesel 15ltr@ 170 bar
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Ok I think I'm narrowing it down
Either a 23ltr @ 250 bar
Or a 30ltr @ 200 bar
I know rob prefers more flow but which is better more flow or more pressure
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david this might have been covered but how are you feeding the water supply, are you feeding it from a tank?
and what will this machine be used for? why are you looking for such a high flow rate
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David
I'm Struggling to get a diesel one!
MORE FLOW in my opinion is always better.
No good having 300 bar at 9lpm better 200 BAR at 20 - 25 ltr per min
Robs your man - he should know whats best to buy.
I have a few different machines - Kranzle - LASTS FOREVER - you hardly ever see a second hand one!
Dual Pumps seem to be steady away and I have been offered a Zeta 23lpm per min at 250 BAR petrol from a place in Crawley for £2699 + VAT - might find it a bit cheaper somewhere?
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Hi mike how are you hope your well, I always use a tank of some sort to supply the water so as long as you have a supply it should keep filling the tank,
I do various types of pressure washing from a couple of biggish commercial jobs down to mrs jones back yard.
Not sure why I want such a high flow but the next 1 I buy will hopefully be the last 1 I buy so I just wanted to get the best I can afford, if you know what I mean
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Rhino man I've been offered the same machine from Malcolm smith pressure washers for £2575 + vat or the 30ltr @ 200 bar for £100 less
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Rob the Honda washer @ £3000 is inclusive of vat so more or less the same as the zeta 30ltr @200 bar ???
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I'm doing well dave, are you of to the TACCA day?... might see you there
30lts a min will empty a wheely bin in 10mins you will need a high flow tap to keep up with your work or you will be constantly be stopping
if you are wanting reliability (as this is the last machine you will buy) then a bigger pump and engine will not equal more reliability
a small interpump is as reliable as a big interpump, does a 30hp engine last longer than a 20hp engine? if both are used at their optimum rate then both will give the same lifespan
an engine rated with a higher horsepower than the pump requires will allow the engine to be under less stress,, but you are buying a bigger pump so need a bigger engine.
it just looks like to me that you are spending money needlessly
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Mike
I agree with most of that but I would say that the pump is well under what the engine can handle on either the Zeta or the Honda.
The H & M came with a 22LPM pump, on a 24HP engine, the engine powers the water heating coil as well.
I wouldn't say it is overstretched now with a 35LPM pump plus the heat. We allowed 2HP for the water heater coil, on instruction from the service people.
The max for a 24 HP I was told would be a 45LPM pump and I cannot be certain but I think that is what the spec for the Thor is - could be wrong on this one though - been a long day!!
Rob ;D
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Darren
You wiley bugger!!!
How much did you pay for the Aquila Hotbox?
Rob ;D
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So which is better 30 ltr @ 200 bar, 23ltr @ 250 bar, 15ltr @ 250 bar, 15ltr@ 200 bar
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Dave
The obvious would be 30LPM @ 200 bar. You will never need more than 200. None of my machine are above 200 bar.
Why that combination - because if you want two operators you can split it and if you need some extra grunt on one operator you've got it!
Rob ;D
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Dave
An afterthought I don't know if the Honda or the Zeta have a flow diverter.
On the Thor there is a great big lever that increases revs and flow, the further you push it the more flow you get. You don't need to constantly run it @ 30LPM but it will always do 200 bar. The bar pressure is always at 200 even when I rinse off the gun.
Rob ;D
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Anyone ok about dealing with travellers? I'm not otherwise I'd have this. Rang him the other week before he put it on ebay and he wanted £1000 but I don't trust them. Cash on collection can mean "give me your money, now f**k off and don't come back or we'll set the dogs on ya"
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOMBARDINI-TWIN-CYLINDER-KEY-START-DRAIN-JETTER-JETWASH-/251230238803?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3a7e7d3853
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Lee
I'm with you on that one, wouldn't take a grand cash to one of their sites. That has got to have been robbed from somewhere because its worth a lot more than that.
Are you busy?
Rob ;D
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f***in' hammered mate, 4 weeks booked in, all mostly commercial and a couple of roof cleans. Taking her to Barca in 2 weeks for her birthday for 3 days and the calls coming in are stressing me out when I have to tell them how long they'll have to wait.
What've you got on? You back down south?
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Just kicked in mate.
Priced shed loads and they are starting to come in. Got my first service work to get the nod with some additional works being discussed on Friday.
Down in Rogers town - Staines.
Make sure when you get her over there you take care of her (like you did the other night) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Got to come up your way on Thursday - somewhere near the Trafford Centre for some drain surveying, just got to meet the client and price up!
If you're about i'll bell you and see if i can get to have a chat!
Rob ;D
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Just kicked in mate.
Priced shed loads and they are starting to come in. Got my first service work to get the nod with some additional works being discussed on Friday.
Down in Rogers town - Staines.
Make sure when you get her over there you take care of her (like you did the other night) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Got to come up your way on Thursday - somewhere near the Trafford Centre for some drain surveying, just got to meet the client and price up!
If you're about i'll bell you and see if i can get to have a chat!
Rob ;D
;D ;D
We're in the city centre all week on Manchester Central so if you wanna come over down Chester Road give me a shout.
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Rob
£995
More than I would have liked to pay but looking forward to trying it out.
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f***in' hammered mate, 4 weeks booked in, all mostly commercial and a couple of roof cleans. Taking her to Barca in 2 weeks for her birthday for 3 days and the calls coming in are stressing me out when I have to tell them how long they'll have to wait.
Only 4 weeks Lee?
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Yep, take it you're booked up until June...? ;D
It doesn't worry me, there's work coming all the time.
Besides your market and custom base is completely different to up here. People wouldn't wait until June to have their decking or patio cleaned, they'll go elsewhere no matter how good we are.
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Yep, take it you're booked up until June...? ;D
It doesn't worry me, there's work coming all the time.
Besides your market and custom base is completely different to up here. People wouldn't wait until June to have their decking or patio cleaned, they'll go elsewhere no matter how good we are.
June going into July, annoying having to turn work away this early in the year.
The thing you have to remember is we do a full service on decking, so people will wait, plus you need the better temps/weather to complete them really.
This year does seem busier then most as in people booking early.
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I'm book til next Tuesday :o
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Rhino man I've been offered the same machine from Malcolm smith pressure washers for £2575 + vat or the 30ltr @ 200 bar for £100 less
Just bought the 200 Bar 30 lpm with port for two operatives from MSPW - seem like a good company. We should get it Monday.........
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Yep, take it you're booked up until June...? ;D
It doesn't worry me, there's work coming all the time.
Besides your market and custom base is completely different to up here. People wouldn't wait until June to have their decking or patio cleaned, they'll go elsewhere no matter how good we are.
June going into July, annoying having to turn work away this early in the year.
The thing you have to remember is we do a full service on decking, so people will wait, plus you need the better temps/weather to complete them really.
This year does seem busier then most as in people booking early.
I don't like letting people down. To keep commercial happy we'll work day and night. Just had a call 5 mins ago for an urgent clean for a filming company in front of a store, so will be back out tonight if his boss approves the price.
Edit: Not going now, it's not in their budget. ::)roll
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Rhinoman was it the price I said to you, another supplier advised me today to go for the 23 ltr @ 250 because on domestic work a 30ltr would flood the garden
Will be interested to hear how you get on with it
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Rhinoman was it the price I said to you, another supplier advised me today to go for the 23 ltr @ 250 because on domestic work a 30ltr would flood the garden
Will be interested to hear how you get on with it
I just need to find some work for it and I will let you know...............
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Ok good luck looking forward to your thoughts as I hope to be ordering mine very soon
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Yep, take it you're booked up until June...? ;D
It doesn't worry me, there's work coming all the time.
Besides your market and custom base is completely different to up here. People wouldn't wait until June to have their decking or patio cleaned, they'll go elsewhere no matter how good we are.
June going into July, annoying having to turn work away this early in the year.
The thing you have to remember is we do a full service on decking, so people will wait, plus you need the better temps/weather to complete them really.
This year does seem busier then most as in people booking early.
I don't like letting people down. To keep commercial happy we'll work day and night. Just had a call 5 mins ago for an urgent clean for a filming company in front of a store, so will be back out tonight if his boss approves the price.
Not letting anyone done, if we ain't available then that's it, we do, do commercial decking but again they would have to book early, due to the sizes and what's usually needed.
Working on one at the moment that's sort of commercial, they left it late but we should complete on time.
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Rhino man I've been offered the same machine from Malcolm smith pressure washers for £2575 + vat or the 30ltr @ 200 bar for £100 less
Just bought the 200 Bar 30 lpm with port for two operatives from MSPW - seem like a good company. We should get it Monday.........
Would be interesting hearing honest feed back, ref to fuel consumption (Daily) and water flow rates. Hope you dont mind me asking with twin ports/split is it possible on this model to switch to single op and restrict / reduce water flow from 30 to say 20 ? thks
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Rhino man I've been offered the same machine from Malcolm smith pressure washers for £2575 + vat or the 30ltr @ 200 bar for £100 less
Just bought the 200 Bar 30 lpm with port for two operatives from MSPW - seem like a good company. We should get it Monday.........
Would be interesting hearing honest feed back, ref to fuel consumption (Daily) and water flow rates. Hope you dont mind me asking with twin ports/split is it possible on this model to switch to single op and restrict / reduce water flow from 30 to say 20 ? thks
I will report honestly when we get the chance to try it.
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Rhinoman why did you end up changing your mind from the 23ltr @250 to the 30ltr @200 bar I'm still undecided as to which 1
As another supplier said to me with 30 ltr you will need a good water supply and it will flood any type of domestic job, and with 250 bar one you can always turn the pressure down
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For us - we won't be doing any domestic jobs so flooded gardens wont be a problem.
We have 1000 ltr water tanks in the vans - plus 200 litre drums - as long as we get a decent water supply we shouldn't have too many problems with lack of water.
Why I changed - remembered that flow rate is more important than pressure
I used to import Kranzle pressure washers into Bulgaria when I lived there - great piece of kit and I still have one in the uk for washing the car -140 Bar 11 ltr per min and one at my home in Bulgaria 170 Bar at 15 ltr per min - that sits mainly in the garage with an old petrol honda thats about 150 Bar 10-12 lpm - which is great for cleaning the swimming pool and driveway when I go there in Summer.
We've also ordered a Lavor Thermic 17HW - and hope it turns out to be the dogs b******s as recommended highly by a member on here - hope by Monday, as we have a huge shed to clean soon near Nottingham.
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Fair comments good luck and looking forward to hear your thoughts
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Rhinoman was it the price I said to you, another supplier advised me today to go for the 23 ltr @ 250 because on domestic work a 30ltr would flood the garden
Will be interested to hear how you get on with it
If you can get 30lpm from a garden hose to flood the place. ??? Were is everybody getting there water from for these big flow machines?
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We have 1000 ltr water tanks in the vans - plus 200 litre drums - as long as we get a decent water supply we shouldn't have too many problems with lack of water.
Are you having a giraffe ...You are going to run a 30lpm machine from a 200 litre drum .One full IBC and one full 200 litre drum along with the weight of your machine and you will be overloaded. Unless you run a seven and a half tonner? Have you done any pressure washing?
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Chris
We use Puegeot Boxer Vans - with 1500KG payloads - the 200 ltr drums are empty and all you do is start filling them from a supply tap on site - usually enough water flow to keep going..............
And yes - we've done a hell of a lot of pressure washing - 7 days last week on one job in Aylesbury which made me decide to get better flow rates than the 15 ltr per min we have been using.......
Most of the stuff we clean is cladding/facades and large car parks
Lads will be up in Newcastle in a few weeks........
Take a look through my home made website http://pressure-washing-services.webplus.net/ (http://pressure-washing-services.webplus.net/)
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Chris
We use Puegeot Boxer Vans - with 1500KG payloads - the 200 ltr drums are empty and all you do is start filling them from a supply tap on site - usually enough water flow to keep going..............
And yes - we've done a hell of a lot of pressure washing - 7 days last week on one job in Aylesbury which made me decide to get better flow rates than the 15 ltr per min we have been using.......
Most of the stuff we clean is cladding/facades and large car parks
Lads will be up in Newcastle in a few weeks........
Take a look through my home made website http://pressure-washing-services.webplus.net/ (http://pressure-washing-services.webplus.net/)
1000litre IBC full = 1000kgs 200litres= 200kgs 1 machine=200kgs 2men =150 kgs . 2 men standing around waiting for an ibc to fill while the customer is watching? I could not see the point of taking empty containers .Different if they are a reservoir then a 200litre drum would do and the IBC could stay at home all cosy!!! Sorry just me being cynical..it just seemed like you had not thought about it much
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A 200 ltr drum doesnt weigh so much - we always take it empty.
Don't want to get in a girly fight Chris but we often take more than one van on a job!
Good luck with whatever you are up to, - we've been doing this long enough to know what we need Thank you very much.
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We have 1000 ltr water tanks in the vans - plus 200 litre drums - as long as we get a decent water supply we shouldn't have too many problems with lack of water.
Sorry i did not mean to offend. I misinterpreted your post. I just thought you were taking water to site. I just thought a 30lpm machine would not do much cleaning before they ran dry..about half an hour... but my maths was never any good! 30lpm Is that what is required to clean cladding successfully...i have done very little of it. What have done i have used caustic free detergent and let that do the work. Sorry for all the questions i manly just clean grannies patio's. IF i get a couple of hundred quid a week i'm happy!!
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We have 1000 ltr water tanks in the vans - plus 200 litre drums - as long as we get a decent water supply we shouldn't have too many problems with lack of water.
Sorry i did not mean to offend. I misinterpreted your post. I just thought you were taking water to site. I just thought a 30lpm machine would not do much cleaning before they ran dry..about half an hour... but my maths was never any good! 30lpm Is that what is required to clean cladding successfully...i have done very little of it. What have done i have used caustic free detergent and let that do the work. Sorry for all the questions i manly just clean grannies patio's. [font=Verdana]IF i get a couple of hundred quid a week i'm happy!![/font]
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Do you not mean "a day" ?
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No a week ...were in a recession up north. :'(
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I've heard about that :o
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You aren't being serious are you?
Rob ;D
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Yep do you have any work for me...i only have 15 lpm tho' . I can bring my own soap..my mate makes it for me in his shed.
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No
Rob ;D
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I thought you had loads of work on..you must need an extra pair of hands.
I can make tea....change nozzles ...roll up pipes..
Employing me will up your flow by 20%. ;D
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No a week ...were in a recession up north. :'(
Ditch the smart seal site and be your own image?
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We get our New Zeta tomorrow - went for the 30lpm 200 Bar twin user in the end - petrol :
Just waiting for the Lavor Thermic 17 HW to arrive - hope by the end of the week.
I definately need to push our services much more, now ;D
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Why the lavor ? Why did you not just buy a hot bot for the pressure washer?
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Rhinoman feedback please as I'm very very tempted to order the 23ltr @250 bar purely because I'm worried about getting enough flow to keep me going so your experience thoughts might change my mind
Thanks and good luck
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Dave
Why are you worrying about having enough water to the machine. Mine run out all day long, we go to a hydrant or wait for a slow supply to fill the tanks again.
23LPM split is not enough for two men but 30LPM is !
Don't be a nancy pants - get it bought you big girl!!! ;D
Rob ;D
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Darren
You'll be selling me that Lavor within six months - you know it! ;D
Rob ;D
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Why are you worrying about having enough water to the machine.
Rob ;D
Is this a trick question?
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Why the lavor ? Why did you not just buy a hot bot for the pressure washer?
I'd have one any day. Maybe you're imagining the electric models. Trevor Perry has a thermic 17, seen it in use and it's great.
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Rob your a bully ;D ;D
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Just recieved an e-mail from jetwash in Huddersfield and they inform me the Lavor is not ready and won't be for 4 weeks ???
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Why the lavor ? Why did you not just buy a hot bot for the pressure washer?
We already have a hot box?
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Dave
Why are you worrying about having enough water to the machine. Mine run out all day long, we go to a hydrant or wait for a slow supply to fill the tanks again.
23LPM split is not enough for two men but 30LPM is !
Don't be a nancy pants - get it bought you big girl!!! ;D
Rob ;D
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Darren
4K for the Lavor ?? ;D
Rob
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Just recieved an e-mail from jetwash in Huddersfield and they inform me the Lavor is not ready and won't be for 4 weeks ???
That means they'll be ordering one and having it shipped over.
I wouldn't pay £12k for one though.
You could have the following from the US for much cheaper. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Cold-Pressure-Washer-6gpm-3600psi-new-17HP-Diesel-/270718336539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0811fe1b
Bigger burner on them. Don't know how much shipping would be.
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What would you use the lavor for as apposed to your pressure washer and hot box?
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Chris, this is a thermic 17
(http://www.jet-wash-direct.co.uk/imgs/products/thermic17.jpg)
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What would you use the lavor for as apposed to your pressure washer and hot box?
Err it would be in another van with another team?
Well infact I might use the Lavor myself ;D ;D ;D
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I'll go to 4.5 K
Rob ;D
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Just recieved an e-mail from jetwash in Huddersfield and they inform me the Lavor is not ready and won't be for 4 weeks ???
That means they'll be ordering one and having it shipped over.
I wouldn't pay £12k for one though.
You could have the following from the US for much cheaper. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Cold-Pressure-Washer-6gpm-3600psi-new-17HP-Diesel-/270718336539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0811fe1b
Bigger burner on them. Don't know how much shipping would be.
It does look good but I used a lavor in Bulgaria a few years ago - only for a few minutes but was impressed.
11k + the dreaded VAT
Cant think of anything else here that is as good - what about you Rob?
Perhaps i will have to wait 4 weeks!
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Lombardini 2900psi 22lpm. £12000
What would you use it for that would warrant parting with 2 years wages for ;D
What will it do that a pw and hot box would not do ?
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I'll go to 4.5 K
Rob ;D
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Lombardini 2900psi 22lpm. £12000
What would you use it for that would warrant parting with 2 years wages for ;D
What will it do that a pw and hot box would not do ?
It looks so damn sexy 8)
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Darren
From a pressure washer - bought in England, with attached hotbox, all in one frame, no import - there just isn't anything. We are just totally crap at making decent machines.
It is a lot of money for a machine - don't know I would have the balls to pay that much though.
If you want to be dissuaded ring me tomorrow - I could save you a lot of money but if you just want to plug and go - that's about all that is out there, with heat.
Just discussed an option on the phone with Lee for 30 LPM hot (modified), may be an option.
Rob ;D
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Off to bed to dream about the baby I am picking up tomorrow the Z21J from Strood and using it working close to home in Ashford - Gutter & UPVC Cleaning!
But when I get home at least I can play with the Zeta.....................
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Lombardini 2900psi 22lpm. £12000
What would you use it for that would warrant parting with 2 years wages for ;D
What will it do that a pw and hot box would not do ?
A pressure washer and hotbox requires a generator to power the burner, this doesn't.
I'd have a Hydro Max brand new over a brand new thermic 17 any day but I'm a tight c**t and like to find second hand bargains.
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Lombardini 2900psi 22lpm. £12000
What would you use it for that would warrant parting with 2 years wages for ;D
What will it do that a pw and hot box would not do ?
A pressure washer and hotbox requires a generator to power the burner, this doesn't.
I'd have a Hydro Max brand new over a brand new thermic 17 any day but I'm a tight c**t and like to find second hand bargains.
Nowt wrong with being tight
I would buy a second hand lavor if I could find one..........
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Lombardini 2900psi 22lpm. £12000
What would you use it for that would warrant parting with 2 years wages for ;D
What will it do that a pw and hot box would not do ?
A pressure washer and hotbox requires a generator to power the burner, this doesn't.
I'd have a Hydro Max brand new over a brand new thermic 17 any day but I'm a tight c**t and like to find second hand bargains.
Nowt wrong with being tight
I would buy a second hand lavor if I could find one..........
Have you asked about though? ;)
Trevor has a 2nd one... not sure of it's current condition though i.e if it requires owt.
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I'm with you Centurion - must be in the Northern genes.
Heil Ceaser!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Rob ;D
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Chris, this is a thermic 17
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that looks pretty close to my van mount. lombardini 4 cyl with built in genny and burner. looks very similar to mine just set out different. maybe i got a bargain?
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A pressure washer and hotbox requires a generator to power the burner, this doesn't.
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The pw is key start use that. The pump and clicker only draws about 200w.
What temperature will these machines get to at say 15lpm.
Most machines only raise the temperature by 70/80c at 15lpm .
Given that this is possibly a standard lavor 21lpm burner it would not acheive boiling point without reducing the flow. Then given the fact we are running it down 10/20 metres of uninsulated pipe lying on a concrete floor in a puddle temperature at the nozzle as opposed to the Boiler would be what ?
What would you use this machine for that a pw and hot box could not do?
What would you clean with these machines. Wagons,plant machinary,?
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Darren
Go to bed and have happy thoughts - pervert!!!!!(your still online!!) ;D
Rob ;D
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Just recieved an e-mail from jetwash in Huddersfield and they inform me the Lavor is not ready and won't be for 4 weeks ???
That means they'll be ordering one and having it shipped over.
I wouldn't pay £12k for one though.
You could have the following from the US for much cheaper. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Cold-Pressure-Washer-6gpm-3600psi-new-17HP-Diesel-/270718336539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0811fe1b
Bigger burner on them. Don't know how much shipping would be.
It's ONLY 22LPM us gallons are different to uk gallons ;D
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Rhinoman did it arrive :D
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Rhinoman did it arrive :D
NO NOT YET ???
We were told yesterday it would.
Probably still being built at Melton Mowbray - hope it arrives Today!
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It must have arrived by now
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It must have arrived by now
No - some problem with stock?
Hope by tomorrow :(
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Good job it's not important parts for it you are waiting on..... Is it available from a different supplier?
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Good job it's not important parts for it you are waiting on..... Is it available from a different supplier?
It has been specially made by Dual Pumps - many of their suppliers don't have much stock so we order and pay - they order and dual pumps make and deliver..........
All spares are usually very quick to get hold of never had problems in the past.
Dual pumps were probably busy and the guys at malcleanse have been very good about it (although they would be as we paid them over a week ago ;D)
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Rhinoman did you have to pay extra to have the dual outlets also have you gone for the optional hose reel
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Made by Dual pumps, well.. well ... I didnt think they made any of that range ::)roll
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Rhinoman did you have to pay extra to have the dual outlets also have you gone for the optional hose reel
Hi there was a charge for the dual outlets - I think £80
Dont want the hose reel - I have them on the Kranzles and I hate them!
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You will be OK with Malcolm ....very knowledgeable chap. His wife is pretty clued up as well ! Nice people.
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You will be OK with Malcolm ....very knowledgeable chap. His wife is pretty clued up as well ! Nice people.
Yes she has been great!
Just one of those things really - I guess it happens sometimes.............................
We've no work for it anyway - so no worries really.
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What do you dislike about the hose reels surely its eaisier to wind the hose onto the reel rather than coiling it up
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I've got a hydraulic hose reel on my jetter - you'd be amazed how much garden furniture it brings back to the van ;)
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What do you dislike about the hose reels surely its eaisier to wind the hose onto the reel rather than coiling it up
Most hose reels on pressure washers seem small and takes ages to wind on, I prefer to wrap it around the handle/frame of the machine - or longer lengths coil into a 200 litre drum along with the lances etc etc
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The electric ones on the Nixons are quicker !
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Its Arrived!
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Well at one of my employees homes in Crawley - I cant wait to see her soon............. :-*
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Ummmmmmm looks nice hope to be ordering mine very soon please let us know what she performs like
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Ummmmmmm looks nice hope to be ordering mine very soon please let us know what she performs like
I will once I find some work for her to do ;D
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Have you used it yet I'm collecting mine on Saturday ;D
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Dave
Which one did you go for in the end, bar & PSI??
Rob ;D
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Have you used it yet I'm collecting mine on Saturday ;D
No I havent had time to even put fuel in it yet!
Got a 373 mile round trip tomorrow quoting jobs for various customers - Ashford to Northampton - Newbury - High Wycombe - Maidenhead
Combination of Industrial Cleaning - Gutter Cleaning & Re Fit cleaning - hope nobody else wants anything tomorrow!
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Rob I'm not telling you cause you call me names :'( :'(
;D ;D ;D
I decided to get the 250 bar @ 23ltr per min purely because I won't need to dual use and I just feel 23 ltr per min will be eaisier to get a water supply to accomerdate it rather than 30 ltr
Maybe I've made the wrong choice but I hope not so please don't shout at me ;D
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Ive been down to Bristol to pick up my new 4 x 4 pick up (new to me anyway!) so only just seen this.
Jeeezzzz Dave I could hold one of them in both hands... Only joking!
Get the feel of it, have a hunt around, realise how many places water is available, see what will keep up with it and make another decision.
It isn't for me to say what is right for you my friend. I know you have bought a cracking pressure washer, that if looked after will not let you down and should last the lifetime of your business.
You can attach it to a hotbox because the flow isn't too high - just glad you didn't buy a karcher!!!!!! ;D
(And before Roger says anything - nothing wrong with a Karcher in the right hands!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D)
You are a sensitive lot on here!!!
Rob
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Rob I'm not telling you cause you call me names :'( :'(
;D ;D ;D
I decided to get the 250 bar @ 23ltr per min purely because I won't need to dual use and I just feel 23 ltr per min will be eaisier to get a water supply to accomerdate it rather than 30 ltr
Maybe I've made the wrong choice but I hope not so please don't shout at me ;D
A pressure washer is to make MONEY for you - if it does that - Jobs a goodun!
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Ive been down to Bristol to pick up my new 4 x 4 pick up (new to me anyway!) so only just seen this.
Jeeezzzz Dave I could hold one of them in both hands... Only joking!
Get the feel of it, have a hunt around, realise how many places water is available, see what will keep up with it and make another decision.
It isn't for me to say what is right for you my friend. I know you have bought a cracking pressure washer, that if looked after will not let you down and should last the lifetime of your business.
You can attach it to a hotbox because the flow isn't too high - just glad you didn't buy a karcher!!!!!! ;D
(And before Roger says anything - nothing wrong with a Karcher in the right hands!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D)
You are a sensitive lot on here!!!
Rob
Have you got a particular water tank and machine in mind that will fit in the back of the pick up ;D
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I am looking at a decent horse trailer.
I am going all out to fool those pesky VOSA men this time, so I can keep away from tachographs
Rob ;D
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Rob I'm sure it will but I will let you know
Rhinoman still interested how you find yours when you get round to using it
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I am looking at a decent horse trailer.
I am going all out to fool those pesky VOSA men this time, so I can keep away from tachographs
Rob ;D
What happened?
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Chris
I had two trailers and spent more time at the side of the road and being escorted to VOSA depots that it wasn't worth the aggravation.
I had to get a tachograph fitted and everything that goes with that.
It wouldn't have been bad if the vans & trailers were crap but they were always clean & tidy. They told me that they pull commercial van & trailer set ups because they know they haven't got tachos fitted.
Within 50Kms of base you are fine, over that be warned!!
Rob ;D
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Finally got round to switching on the Zeta
Just to pull the trigger and see its power - very impressed - cant wait to photo the lads using it!
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Chris
I had two trailers and spent more time at the side of the road and being escorted to VOSA depots that it wasn't worth the aggravation.
I had to get a tachograph fitted and everything that goes with that.
It wouldn't have been bad if the vans & trailers were crap but they were always clean & tidy. They told me that they pull commercial van & trailer set ups because they know they haven't got tachos fitted.
Within 50Kms of base you are fine, over that be warned!!
Rob ;D
Anything over 3500kgs needs a taco. The 4 wheel drive will need a tacho too... What do you carry apart from the washer ,lances etc ? Why don't you put it all on a wagon and call it plant? Cheap tax, no tacho,no mot, pushing it you could run on vimto, You could carry 2/3000 litres of water without being overloaded.
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Getting it tomorrow ;D
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I am looking at a decent horse trailer.
I am going all out to fool those pesky VOSA men this time, so I can keep away from tachographs
Rob ;D
Only fools and horse boxes?
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Funny ;D ;D ;D
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Got it today and WOW I'm well impressed its fantastic ;D
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Well connected it to my whirl a way today and it was hovering in te air no joke it was off the ground
I know there are bigger machines out there but for what I need and in my opionon this is absolutely fantastic
I will now more on Wednesday when we clean a very battered and old tennis curt
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Rhinoman how are you finding the zeta I'm well happy with mine
It drinks petrol like I drink magners ;D ;D ;D
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David Why did you buy the zeta for what purpose?. It seems an odd size machine.
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Chris
Don't upset Dave ;D
Have a cake ;D
Rob ;D
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Hi
I bought a Zeta and finally played with it today!
On another note this part of the buildings facade is proving difficult to clean - even with hot water.
Loads of black runs and looks like somebody tried before us without success.
I'm sure we will manage it tomorrow but any suggestions might save us some time
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Rhinoman how are you finding the zeta I'm well happy with mine
It drinks petrol like I drink magners ;D ;D ;D
Just tried it today - well impressed!
Also used the hot box that Rob told me about - steamed off the cladding a beauty! Well happy
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Hi
I bought a Zeta and finally played with it today!
On another note this part of the buildings facade is proving difficult to clean - even with hot water.
Loads of black runs and looks like somebody tried before us without success.
I'm sure we will manage it tomorrow but any suggestions might save us some time
Soft brush and some soap.
Becareful if it's plastic coated cladding else the plastic will go "saggy" with to much heat. It will take a week or two before you notice it tho'. The hot water is forced through the plastic coating by the pressure and the glue deteriorates.
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Chris
I brought the zeta because IMO it was the best machine available for the budget I had IMO its more than powerful and has good flow rate, connecting a hot box would be easy, and its easily transportable and I'm sure it will do for everything I need it for and it should last me a long time
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I have looked at them ...they are impressive. I just thought that they were to big in terms of flow for domestic work too thirsty being a V-twin petrol and a bit heavy .
I thought if you were doing big car parks,B&Q's etc you would buy a large diesel machines or even two smaller petrols (250 bar 15lpm) for covering both types of cleaning ...approx the same price as the zeta.
Hence i was asking what you bought it for ...what sort of cleaning ?
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I have looked at them ...they are impressive. I just thought that they were to big in terms of flow for domestic work too thirsty being a V-twin petrol and a bit heavy .
I thought if you were doing big car parks,B&Q's etc you would buy a large diesel machines or even two smaller petrols (250 bar 15lpm) for covering both types of cleaning ...approx the same price as the zeta.
Hence i was asking what you bought it for ...what sort of cleaning ?
I bought my Zeta because I like the name - other than that I have no idea?
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i bought my Zeta because I like the name - other than that I have no idea?
I bought my Cayman for the same reason.
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I brought 1 because rhinoman brought 1 and because rob told me to otherwise he said he wouldn't talk to me again ;D
Chris as I said I wanted to get a machine that would last and would cover all types if work, I did a wooden decking around a caravan yesterday a big over kill but last week did a large 5 a side football pitch 15ltr per min would have been no good
Hence a machine that can cope with most situations
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I brought 1 because rhinoman brought 1 and because rob told me to otherwise he said he wouldn't talk to me again ;D
Honestly?
As regards running it do you run out of water with it?
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I brought 1 because rhinoman brought 1 and because rob told me to otherwise he said he wouldn't talk to me again ;D
And I bought my Karchers because they are Yellow & Black because they are the colours as ours.