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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Luc on February 12, 2013, 08:46:42 am

Title: upholstery problem
Post by: Luc on February 12, 2013, 08:46:42 am
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hi guys,

A neighbour of one of my customers, a lovely Old girl in her 80's,  had her suite cleaned two weeks ago, and this is how its dried out. its a g plan suite, a pale green colour and its dried out with pink lines in lots of the creases and a severe pinkish tinge on all the side panels, back and front of the base.

Can i rectify this for the lady, as she is an old girl who is lovely and tbh is quite distraught as the company she used is not returning no calls or her money?

If so what would be the best way of going about cleaning this?
the reason i ask is i have never seen this in 15 years of cleaning myself.
many thanks
Luc
Title: Re: upholstery problem
Post by: Luc on February 12, 2013, 08:47:59 am
sorry tried to upload some photos but they have not worked  :(
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Post by: Richard Meads on February 12, 2013, 09:36:59 am
Do you know what the fabric is Luc?
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Post by: fenman on February 12, 2013, 10:15:13 am
It sounds like a colour change that can be rectified by applying a weak solution of bicarbonate of soda.
Not had one for a long time but it certainly works.
David
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Post by: Hilton on February 12, 2013, 12:48:56 pm
Is it a Draylon ?
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Post by: Johnny Czarnota on February 12, 2013, 04:03:10 pm
did u check what is inside the cushions? - maybe some fibres on the backing have loose dyes
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Post by: John Kelly on February 12, 2013, 04:22:31 pm
PH indicator dye problem as mentioned spray with sodium bicarbonate solution and should rectify it.
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Post by: Mike Halliday on February 12, 2013, 04:24:43 pm
It's an acid sensitive indicator dye, test it by wiping it with an high ph solution, it will disappear before your eyes.

The solution has already been mentioned, bicarb' I treated one with an ammonia solution but it stunk to high heaven

Edit... John posted as I typed
Title: Re: upholstery problem
Post by: Luc on February 12, 2013, 05:13:55 pm
Thanks for all the advice guys. I have just returned from spraying the suite down with a mixture of bicarb and water. I literally lightly misted the whole suite and right away the pinkness all vanished.  The old girl was over the moon and ive left with a new customer and a job for next week as im cleaning all the carpets in her bungalow.
The company she used had not even given her the decency to call her back.
Many thanks for advice and it goes to show you learn a new thing everyday.

Luc
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Post by: peter maybury on February 13, 2013, 10:02:25 am
ask to put  a reveiw on google places about the other firm on her behalf if they are on there.

Peter
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Post by: Buckland on February 13, 2013, 08:11:43 pm
peter - thats a good idea telling it like it is and its what they deserve but dodgy in terms of having your IP traced back to a competitor - I suppose you could get someone in her family to do it for her or jot down what she says and do it at a libarary pc
Title: Re: upholstery problem
Post by: james roffey on February 14, 2013, 07:39:16 am
I thought that Acids generally stabilised dyes that why we acid rinse especially on those dye sensitive  rugs etc, an acid rinse on this suite probably caused the problem Bi carb is on the Alkaline side have heard of this before and how to rectify, but still odd.
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Post by: John Kelly on February 14, 2013, 08:25:50 am
James you are right but these dyes aren't loose which is what an acid rinse is designed to deal with ie to stop the colours bleeding.
These dyes for some reason are acting like litmus paper and changing colour depending on the acidity or alkalinity of the cleaning product.
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Post by: james roffey on February 14, 2013, 08:34:07 am
John

Am i right in thinking that pre testing an area with whatever pre spray you intend to use would not help as this occures during the drying process and may take several hours to appear.
Title: Re: upholstery problem
Post by: Dave_Lee on February 14, 2013, 05:28:08 pm
This happened to a green suite that I cleaned some years ago when this hazard was little known. Fortunatley I spoke to one of the leaders in our field and he knew what it was straight away. Mike H. had the same happen to an identical suite.
The pink discolouration took a few months to fully appear after I cleaned it with a self neutralising Alkaline detergent.
I tested it with an acidic rinse before applying the Bicarb, and the small area turned a deep red straight away.
The Bicard returned it to its original colour.
https://picasaweb.google.com/101559091367211262061/IndDyeProblemSuite (https://picasaweb.google.com/101559091367211262061/IndDyeProblemSuite)
Dave.