Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: John pearce on February 09, 2013, 07:41:25 pm
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does anyone know if they get them black rubber stained marks of the window frame at the bottom, they're really hard to shift even by hand, just wanted to know if would work before buying some. thanks in advance. john.
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i cant say if g101 would or wouldnt get them off, but g101 definitely brings the frames up whiter than with virosol, almost like a bleaching effect.
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I use doktor power it's never failed me yet, even heavy black marks on the door cills 3 wipes and its off.. Comes with a none scratch sponge to apply the product..
Find g101 gets light grey/black marks but not stubborn stains
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A magic sponge will take it off in seconds. Get them on eBay, 10 for a 3 or 4 quid, 100 of them for a tenner. They don't last long but take all sorts of marks off that other things don't touch.
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Im meeting the local franchisee next week,£15 for 5 litres of G101
I have virosol and never found it that good.
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A good UPVC cleaner from Ever Shield
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does anyone know if they get them black rubber stained marks of the window frame at the bottom, they're really hard to shift even by hand, just wanted to know if would work before buying some. thanks in advance. john.
good old brillo pad would work a treat on that
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Or an angle grinder.
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Magic sponge should do it no problem
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I use doktor power it's never failed me yet, even heavy black marks on the door cills 3 wipes and its off.. Comes with a none scratch sponge to apply the product..
Find g101 gets light grey/black marks but not stubborn stains
+1
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i was given some g101 by a customer that thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, i was not impressed by the product at all, i believe you cant beet the cream cleaner made by premier products
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do you all charge extra to remove stains from the frames..?
Graham
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A magic sponge will take it off in seconds. Get them on eBay, 10 for a 3 or 4 quid, 100 of them for a tenner. They don't last long but take all sorts of marks off that other things don't touch.
have you got a link? thanks
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Thanks for relpies lads, looks like i will have to rig something up on pole so i can stick brillo pad or like on, as its a three storey house,
and im not digging my 18 ft double ladders out, not after being on pole for 2 half years, the customer has not said anything to me about removing it, it just annoys me because they look dirty. thanks again. john. :)
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Removing marks should be an extra charge. Its more like a restoration.
Don`t use g101 on painted doors as it will bleach it and leave marks.
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Hi Guys
Jumping over from the hard floor cleaning section, Smithie is right about the use of G101 never use on paintwork as its a high alkaline based cleaner and can cause detrimental damage to many surfaces including PVC window frames as it can degrade the original shinny surface, i made those mistakes many years ago when i was cleaning windows and was recommended to use G101 or TFR which i discovered as well was causing detrimental damage to many surfaces as most TFRs are also high alkaline based cleaners which will just dull down and corrode many types of surfaces over continuos use. only passing on my own experiences and having heard many other cleaners complaining about the damage that products like G101 and high alkaline based TFRs cause to surfaces.
Best example i can give is to take a nice new white transit van drives out of the showroom shinny and bright, then its taken into the car wash once a week to be cleaned and pressure washed with TFR (highly alkaline) give it 2 to 3 years depending on how often its washed and the original shinny bright finish eventually turns into a dull off white colour, the alloy wheels start to degrade, black shinny plastic bumpers start to degrade and turn to a grey dull colour, then after another year or two the dull white paint starts to turn a yellowish colour as it becomes chemically burnt from continuos use of high alkaline based vehicle cleaners, again guys im just sharing my own experiences from over 30 years in the cleaning industry, the same problems arise in the hard floor cleaning industry, many contractors use high alkaline based floor cleaners to clean vinyl type and anti-slip flooring and again from continuos use, the floors start to turn a yellowish colour from the chemical burning caused by the continuos use of high alkaline based floor cleaners. just note guys you dont see this damage when your using high alkaline based cleaning products the detrimental damage is caused by the continuos use of these harsh cleaning chemicals. I havent used in years any high alkaline based cleaning products and would never recommend them as over time they are just to damaging to surfaces.
Hope that this info will be of benefit to some of you guys, the guy who shared this info in the states with me many years ago was a chemist with one of the larger chemical manufactures in the world and shared some interesting facts with me, which have been of great benefit to me.
Kind regards
Tadgh
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So what do you use then ???
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seriously mate why are you that bothered?? ??? ???
if the customers hasnt said anything then leave it.its due to the frames being old mainly and lack of cleaning previously.
if your really that bothered mention it to the customer and ask him/her whether you can go inside and clean them that way from the inside.
DOKTOR POWER is what you need and a non scratch scourer.
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Just squirt some cream cleaner on your brush if you're that bothered. It'll probably come back again anyway - quite often it's caused by the black rubbers deteriorating.
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by the way i use virosol for conny roofs/fascias/outside gutters and soffits if their really dirty.either i spray on using a 5L pressure sprayer or directly on my brush.leave 5 mins then WFP off.
it certainly helps to melt and dislodge baked on algae etc.its cheap and is a citrus based degreaser.good stuff IMO.
as i use a cold system all year round.using virosol certainly speeds me up on the dirty add on jobs.i try and hook up to customers outside taps if available when wfpoling these to save my pure water for windows.
regards
dazmond
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seriously mate why are you that bothered?? ??? ???
if the customers hasnt said anything then leave it.its due to the frames being old mainly and lack of cleaning previously.
if your really that bothered mention it to the customer and ask him/her whether you can go inside and clean them that way from the inside.
DOKTOR POWER is what you need and a non scratch scourer.
I agree!!!
When windows having been left for years without a clean the frames can take more than 1st cleans they can't expect a miracle clean first time!! Well unless your charging for a full intense clean!!
Doktor power by hand only thou :) don't try putting into your brush head as I won't lift out the marks.
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So what do you use then ???
I would recommend a micelles based heavy duty degreaser (non caustic & non corrrosive) coupled with a microcleaning handpad (magic sponge)
The handpads are lightly abrasive but are extremely effective when it comes to a task of this nature, when using them on a pvc frame its important to scrub the surface gently
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seriously mate why are you that bothered?? ??? ???
if the customers hasnt said anything then leave it.its due to the frames being old mainly and lack of cleaning previously.
if your really that bothered mention it to the customer and ask him/her whether you can go inside and clean them that way from the inside.
DOKTOR POWER is what you need and a non scratch scourer.
BECAUSE when i traded these windows, that little scrub with the rag kept these rubber tear marks at bay, since using pole im getting them on quite alot of windows, and its pi..sing me off, all the tops and sides are nice, but bottoms are dulling up, and i know its because of the rain and sun shine damaging it too, just wondered if these liquids shifted it, i got my 5 lt pump and brush ready, but dont think i will bother now after what tadgh o shea said, i try some doktor powder on my doodlebug pad. cheers john
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I wonder if anyone has told Autosmart that their product wrecks paintwork? I have a feeling they may have checked this before unleashing it on Garages etc. ;D
Nasty stuff possibly http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/autosmart-g101-cat19.html