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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Tony Edwards on February 08, 2013, 08:19:33 pm
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Getting tired of my yellow Gardiners hose being so hard and brittle in this cold weather. Any advice what hose I can get to replace it so remains supple in the cold. Best price and best supplier ?
Cheers
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Gardiners have some new stuff coming out in March I heard.
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thermobore ;)
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gardiners thermobore mate.its fantastic hose.highly recommended.very tough but reasonably supple in cold weather even with a cold system.
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I meant pole hose.
Thermobore is good on the hosereel, pleased with mine.
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pole hose?
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Pole hose yes
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Getting tired of my yellow Gardiners hose being so hard and brittle in this cold weather. Any advice what hose I can get to replace it so remains supple in the cold. Best price and best supplier ?
Cheers
glad you posted this - have cold water van mount system - use gardiners pole hose and jeeze cold weather makes it turn itself iside out and coiled and fold back on it self. have to bite the knotted parts sometimes to open bore on hose for water to pass.
not to mention unravelling every clean.
right with you on this one - there must be something more supple
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When it is cold, and the pole hose is stiff I gather it into big loops like a lasso when finished and hang it onto the pole hook in the van. If you try and and make the loops smaller it will kink and drive you mad !
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I bought a 30 metre length of the see thru pole hose from eBay, it's very flexible in the cold, I then joined it using a barb and a couple of o clips to a 3 inch section of the yellow gardiners hose as this allows me to still use the John guest fittings that came with my clx, hope this helps.
Graham
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Streamline lite-5 is by far the best pole hose used it for over 4 yrs without any probs .
Currently using aquadapter orange to match my thermobore hose but everytime I take the pole out of the truck I have to de-tangle the hose : >:( . Mike
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Streamline lite-5 is by far the best pole hose used it for over 4 yrs without any probs .
Currently using aquadapter orange to match my thermobore hose but everytime I take the pole out of the truck I have to de-tangle the hose : >:( . Mike
Bin it, it's crap and don't get any better with more use. ;)
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I tried Aquadapter red and orange - it fits push fit valves perfectly. I just couldn't work with the stuff.
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I like the orange ionics pole hose. It fits the push-fit valves perfectly and is unaffected by cold or hot weather. It is good for hot water as it does not expand with the heat (perceptibly anyway).
It does have a memory so not everyone will like it. You do have to coil it properly each time the pole is put back in van.
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Aquadapter hose is much better than the yellow gardiner hose.
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try the hose facelift use on the phoenix pole , nice and supple in the cold weather regards alan
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Hi Mike,
Streamline lite-5 is by far the best pole hose used it for over 4 yrs without any probs .
Currently using aquadapter orange to match my thermobore hose but everytime I take the pole out of the truck I have to de-tangle the hose : >:( . Mike
Does that mean you're putting it away tangled? :o ;)
Our hose is low stretch, but it doesn't like being twisted. For some users this means they have to consider how they manage their hose, or the twist results in it coiling back on itself. Keep the twist out of it and it should lay flat.
http://blog.aqua-dapter.co.uk/2010/12/getting-your-hose-in-a-twist/
I remember Andy and Dave's comments about it on another forum, because they're 2 out of a small number who really dislike the hose, although I seem to remember Dave saying he gave the orange less than a week, and the red about 10 minutes before he decided he didn't like it! ;)
Both hoses take, on average, about 2-3 weeks of use before they settle down, but they can't be overly twisted even then. They have to be low stretch for best operation of the Aqua-dapter.
It's really down to user preference, we're pleased that about 95% of customers seem to like our hose, but the other 5% really don't! We only produced the hose for the benefit of the Aqua-dapter, but we have a lot of customers who just buy the hose now, as it's very consistent in different temperatures, and durable.
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=165180.0
http://blog.aqua-dapter.co.uk/2012/03/febmar-2012-aqua-dapter-service-products-survey/
Paul
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No I dont put it away.tangled , I coil the hose up after wiping it down then place it in truck .
Unless I pick it up perfectly it will end up with a tangle or loose knot as I take it out of truck it might fair better as the weather warms up .
When in use cleaning windows it is fine to a point but always wants to return to be being coiled up in a small coil . Mike
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I use aqua dapter orange it can be terrible for tangling up but to be honest im yet to find a good pole hose yet.
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Hi Mike,
The ;) was supposed to show that that was intended to be mildly humorous.
I understand, the link on the blog shows the way one customer found to be the best way to use the hose.
I'd recommend only coiling it loosely when packing it away.
I don't know when you bought it, but we also produce it in larger coils now, to stop it wanting to return to too small a coil. The way it's stored and coiled can also affect the way it responds.
Something else you could try is to but the hose into some hot water for a few seconds. Take it out, coil it loosely into large loops and store it like that. Hopefully the next time you use it, it will behave better for you.
Generally it's the storage and twisting that cause issues for people. We don't have any problems with it, but then I guess we're more conscious of it as it's ours. It makes it a little harder to understand what others are doing with it that causes such a different reaction.
Paul
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I still use Aquadapter hose from push fit quick release to brush head - it's a superb fit but as a pole hose I couldn't coil it up to put it away and it wouldn't lay flat to work with - total nightmare. I gave a length to another window cleaner and said "coil that up" he couldn't do it either. How the rest work with it is beyond me. Maybe I'm too fussy.
I can't get on with Gardiners hose and don't like the Streamlite stuff because it won't go into push fits without a barb. The only hose I've settled on is Surecleans at the moment.
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Thanks for the reply will try the hot water trick , Bought hose in December and it was tightly coiled in packet and always wants to return to that small coil.
Hose is placed in rear footwell of truck as i keep pole in cab . Mike
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So is there actually a good pole hose for cold systems ? ???
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So is there actually a good pole hose for cold systems ? ???
I've tried a few and to be honest I still have not found the perfect one for all year round use.
I couldn't get on with the Aquadaptor hose, Gardiners hose becomes really stiff in the cold and Sureclean Systems hose seems to be middle of the road.
So the Sureclean is what I use at the moment and although it does stiffen up slightly in the cold it is still useable.
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Quite like my aquadapter hose, now my Brodex black pole hose is a Bloody nightmare, has a mind of its own, too thick to do anything with and in the cold it turns into a steel rod!!!....will be changing that one this week ;D
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I use a back pack with gardeners yellow minibore hose straight to my clx. I see that guys using a van system use a heavier hose to the pole. Is that microbore ? And should I be using that to my pole then change to minibore for the actual pole ?
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Bump
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Quite like my aquadapter hose, now my Brodex black pole hose is a Bloody nightmare, has a mind of its own, too thick to do anything with and in the cold it turns into a steel rod!!!....will be changing that one this week ;D
Brodex hose is great for connecting to hose reel from pump along with appropiate fitting .
For me it means I can lock my truck and arm alarm ensuring everything is secure when away from truck. Mike
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I use a back pack with gardeners yellow minibore hose straight to my clx. I see that guys using a van system use a heavier hose to the pole. Is that microbore ? And should I be using that to my pole then change to minibore for the actual pole ?
Hi Tony
Generally you would not use Minibore for the actual pole itself as it will add to the weight of the pole in use.
I would recommend using 8mm OD yellow non-reinforced PVC pole hose for the pole itself then connecting to either Minibore or Microbore hose on the hose reel.
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I use a back pack with gardeners yellow minibore hose straight to my clx. I see that guys using a van system use a heavier hose to the pole. Is that microbore ? And should I be using that to my pole then change to minibore for the actual pole ?
Hi Tony
Generally you would not use Minibore for the actual pole itself as it will add to the weight of the pole in use.
I would recommend using 8mm OD yellow non-reinforced PVC pole hose for the pole itself then connecting to either Minibore or Microbore hose on the hose reel.
When will the pole hose be in stock please Alex ?
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In the winter, using an immersion heater just for hose suppleness more than outweighs the cost of heating it up overnight.